Disaster Why is California’s Oak Fire spreading so fast? - 3 days, 18,500+ acres, 26% containment

Officials and experts say that low humidity, high fuel load and sloping topography are creating a “perfect recipe” for extreme fire behavior at Central California’s Oak Fire. The fire exploded overnight in Mariposa County after breaking out Friday afternoon, expanding to 6,500 acres by Saturday morning. The fast-moving blaze, about an hour from Yosemite National Park, is exhibiting “extreme” fire activity, Cal Fire said in a morning incident report, and has destroyed 10 structures and threatens 2,000 more.

By Sunday morning, the fire had burned 14,281 acres.
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Firefighter Justin Montgomery defends a home on Triangle Road as the Oak Fire burns in unincorporated Mariposa County, Calif., on Friday, July 22, 2022. Ethan Swope AP

Sierra National Forest spokesman Daniel Patterson said Saturday that the fire appeared to be weather and topography driven. A “whole combination of factors” led to explosive growth Friday and overnight, including dry and hot weather, and rugged terrain with an abundance of dry trees and grass. “There was some decent wind yesterday, and we’re in a 1,200-year drought,” Patterson added. “And all that is the perfect recipe for extreme fire behavior. We have been seeing this in California in recent years.”

OAK FIRE DISPLAYS UNUSUAL NIGHTTIME BEHAVIOR​

California’s blazes tend to slow overnight, when temperatures drop and humidity rises. But the Oak Fire burned actively through the night, Cal Fire said, amid poor humidity recovery and hotter than normal temperatures.
Crews working to establish containment lines must deal with steep topography that is allowing the blaze to make quick runs. Crews also have to contend with abundant sources of fuel. The area in which the fire is burning — near Jerseydale and Bootjack — has not burned since 1924, Crystal Kolden, a pyrogeographer and a professor at UC Merced, said on Friday. Kolden, who studies wildfire, added that the Oak Fire flared so quickly due to three primary factors: fuel load, heat and the very dry air due to a 108-degree day.

FIRE SPREADS IN ALL DIRECTIONS​

Daniel Swain, a climate scientist and fire expert at UCLA, wrote on social media Saturday that an “interesting and complicated” aspect of the Oak Fire’s initial explosion is that it was able to spread in every direction, both uphill and downhill. Swain attributed the phenomenon to the dry fuel load from the ongoing drought.
The fire was driven by some wind Friday, which let up into Saturday, Patterson said. But Swain said on social media that the lack of wind may not slow the blaze, which appears to be “strongly fuels and topography-dominated.”

“With (the Oak Fire), streak of relatively modest and non-destructive wildfires in CA so far this season appears to be over,” Swain wrote in a social media post. “This continues to be an intense & fast-moving fire.”

 
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don't forget 'sell off insanely cheap water rights to giant farming and bottled water operations just to make sure the entire state is as dry as possible
 
But evidently not enough in this area with its high fuel load? Not sure why you're pissed off that we read the article for once.
Exactly. It is because California is fucking retarded. They ban controlled burning and actively put out every fire, even low intensity fires that does not threathen anything.
This particular area I read had not had a fire in almost 100 years. A thick pine forest where you now have a hundred years worth of fuel burning.
100 years worth of fuel. Good fucking luck trying to put that fire out.

The only reason they have these catastrophic fires is because California is retarded. No other place seems to have this issue. Only california.
 
California really only seems to have 3 options for housing unless you're a billionaire:
1) Spend 3x rent because your glorified closet apartment is within 10 miles of a gay club or something they can upcharge for
2) Live in the woods and deal with forest fires every year
3) be homeless
 
It's always a question of "where" when it comes to CA fires.



I think I figured put why there is so much fuel. Control burns are common firefighting practice as it eats the dry plant matter and reinvigorate the soil. Which makes it safer from wildfires in the long run. But because the government purposefully burning acres of wilderness doesnt look good to liberal voters, CA doesn't really do this as often as they should. Combined with the dry heat, it causes the wildfire to easily go out of control.
They didn't give up, they passed legislation making it illegal. It's one thing to just stop budgeting for it, but they passed laws making it illegal to do controlled burn, dead brush removal, and the like. They want this to happen.
this shit happens every year and still nothing is done.
What's really insane about the whole issue is that California has made it so those lands are federally protected. The state has done a lovely job of tying its own hands when it comes to solving this problem and simultaneously making it everyone else's problem to solve. Almost like the people in power in CA don't want it solved at all...
 
Mariposa County has less than 20,000 people in it. most wildfires take place in the wilderness. most rural people are white (kind of less and less true in CA but let's move on) and republican. even so, "CA wildfires mostly affect white republicans" hasn't been true for 15 years at least. Plus the mostest Republicanest part of CA that is actually inhabited by humans in a significant fashion , Orange County (pop over 3 million), is the only part of CA that still fights wildfires in a way that isn't retarded.
Below is a list of the most destructive wildfires in the past 15 years. The largest and most deadly are generally in rural and Republican leaning or majority counties, while the most 'destructive' as in structures burned/costly insurance payouts are mostly in Bay Area adjacent places with expensive houses. Note: None of them are in Orange County.
Name​
County​
Acres​
Structures
Deaths​
Start date​
Zaca​
Santa Barbara​
240207
1​
0​
07/2007​
Klamath Theater Complex​
Siskiyou​
192038
0​
2​
06/2008​
Iron Alps Complex​
Trinity​
105855​
10​
10
08/2008​
Rush​
Lassen​
271911
0​
0​
08/2012​
Rim​
Tuolumne​
257314
112​
0​
08/2013​
Valley​
Lake, Napa, Sonoma​
76067​
1955
4​
09/2015​
Butte​
Amador, Calaveras​
70868​
921
2​
09/2015​
Witch​
San Diego​
197990​
1650
2​
10/2017​
Harris​
San Diego​
90440​
548​
8
10/2017​
Tubbs​
Napa, Sonoma​
36807​
5643
22
10/2017​
Nuns​
Sonoma​
54382​
1355
3​
10/2017​
Redwood Valley​
Mendocino​
36523​
544​
9
10/2017​
Atlas​
Napa, Solano​
51624​
781​
6
10/2017​
Thomas​
Ventura, Santa Barbara​
281893​
1063
23
12/2017​
Mendocino Complex​
Mendocino, Lake, Colusa, Glenn​
459123
280​
1​
07/2018​
Carr​
Shasta, Trinity​
229651
1614
8
07/2018​
Camp​
Butte​
153336​
18804
85
11/2018​
Woolsey​
Ventura, Los Angeles​
96949​
1643
3​
11/2018​
North Complex​
Plumas, Butte​
318935​
2352
15
08/2020​
CZU Lightning Complex​
Santa Cruz, San Mateo​
86509​
1490
1​
08/2020​
August Complex​
Glenn, Lake, Mendocino, Tehama, Trinity, Shasta​
1032649
935
1​
08/2020​
SCU Lightning Complex​
Santa Clara, Alameda, Contra Costa, San Joaquin, Merced, Stanislaus​
396624
222​
0​
08/2020​
LNU Lightning Complex​
Colusa, Lake, Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Yolo​
363220
1491
6
08/2020​
Glass​
Napa, Sonoma​
67484​
1520
0​
09/2020​
Creek​
Fresno, Madera​
379895
856​
0​
09/2020​
Dixie​
Butte, Lassen, Plumas, Shasta, Tehama​
963309
1329
1​
07/2021​
Monument​
Trinity​
223124
50​
0​
07/2021​
River Complex​
Siskiyou, Trinity​
199343
122​
0​
07/2021​
Caldor​
El Dorado, Amador, Alpine​
221835
1003
1​
08/2021​
 
What's really insane about the whole issue is that California has made it so those lands are federally protected. The state has done a lovely job of tying its own hands when it comes to solving this problem and simultaneously making it everyone else's problem to solve. Almost like the people in power in CA don't want it solved at all...
You solve the problem, and you can't keep getting money to fix the problem. A lot of California's problems are because the money that gets allocated to fix problems, disappears.
 
@Miss Misery reply bug:
Below is a list of the most destructive wildfires in the past 15 years. The largest and most deadly are generally in rural and Republican leaning or majority counties, while the most 'destructive' as in structures burned/costly insurance payouts are mostly in Bay Area adjacent places with expensive houses. Note: None of them are in Orange County
What I see missing here isn’t the number of acres burned or other destruction statistics. I am curious about the economic ramifications - how much did recovery for each of these top fires cost and who did it cost? Is that data available?
 
You solve the problem, and you can't keep getting money to fix the problem. A lot of California's problems are because the money that gets allocated to fix problems, disappears.
This idea right here is what people in the future will point to when they talk about the ultimate failure of a constitutional republic. Monarchies don't deal with that shit if the monarch does their job. You see it in every level of the United States government and the problem is systemic.
 
@Miss Misery reply bug:

What I see missing here isn’t the number of acres burned or other destruction statistics. I am curious about the economic ramifications - how much did recovery for each of these top fires cost and who did it cost? Is that data available?
Honestly I'm not sure, since it's a variable thing. How much did the state spend on firefighting/remediation, how much did insurance companies pay out for settlements, how much did PG&E pay for lawsuits (LOL), how much revenue was lost due to destruction of forests/businesses/etc. But it's a good question and I'll do some research and let you know.
 
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