Containment What WILL Chris's Fate be? - How do you think it will end?

[xX Puss Slayer Xx]

Spree Killing Saga

 

[soyfishTen]

Whatever the verdict is, soon we'll get a nice, long, Chris hiatus (because I really don't think it's gonna end) and Geno can catch up to the present at a leisurely pace. That's a win in my book.

 

[Plight of the Bumblebee]

With someone having already discovered where Chris is currently staying, anyone thinks he might be assaulted/murdered? "Chris raped his mother" is enough A-logging fuel for anyone to want to physically harm him.

 

[Cuntster]

Nothing will happen. They‘ll both go back to 14BC and he’ll be back to diddling Barb within a month, this time knowing he’s been given a free pass to do so.

 

[General Tug Boat]

I think what is going to happen because despite anything else, Chris has a recorded history of sexual deviance, but also his incest fantasies where already on display since at least the mid 2010's. More than likely he is going to be facing the convention this time resulting in some sort of institutionalized care. Seeing he is a lucid nutcase, more than likely will be in the looney bin.

He is just too far gone at this point for anyone to sensibly argue that he would be mentally fit for the general population of an prison. Chris is a unique type of case, considering his heavily archived history. For this type of crime, he isn't skating by, and is not going to receive light gloves this time. His legal precedent alone is all that is going to take to determine the severity of what the prosecutor is going to look for. Which if he is lucky enough to get a good public defender, he will spend the rest of his waking life in some sort of facility.

Probably for the best, Barb will rot away in some state mandated home to ultimately be left to nature taking its course. The end of Chris will go with a whimper once institutionalized. Overtime people will forget about him, but also realistically this just is disgusting enough to revolt most people from just completely tuning him out totally. The Chris milk ran dry long ago and since then has been a depressing state of affairs.

So either way fellow Kiwis this is the end of Mr Chandler's crazy ride. Take a free complementary husk of corn at the concession stand.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

The state will probe Barb's vag for traces of tard coom, find nothing conclusive, then they'll shrug their shoulders, send both back to 14BC, and at most send a Social Service Worker to do a welfare checkup once every 6 months.

The state doesn't want to have to deal with either of them, so a lack of overwhelming physical evidence will lead to them washing their hands of it.

Now, if the rape kit finds a fresh load of Chris' navy in Barb's Tom-tom, then I'd expect them to take it to trial.

 

[Sen. Howell Tankerbell]

I don't think weens will want to take him in that's for sure. Unless someone is that desperate for attention and e-fame.

I think you are severely underestimating just how desperate for a single shred of attention some people on the internet are.

 

[rbzfan]

I think what is going to happen because despite anything else, Chris has a recorded history of sexual deviance, but also his incest fantasies where already on display since at least the mid 2010's. More than likely he is going to be facing the convention this time resulting in some sort of institutionalized care. Seeing he is a lucid nutcase, more than likely will be in the looney bin.

He is just too far gone at this point for anyone to sensibly argue that he would be mentally fit for the general population of an prison. Chris is a unique type of case, considering his heavily archived history. For this type of crime, he isn't skating by, and is not going to receive light gloves this time. His legal precedent alone is all that is going to take to determine the severity of what the prosecutor is going to look for. Which if he is lucky enough to get a good public defender, he will spend the rest of his waking life in some sort of facility.

Probably for the best, Barb will rot away in some state mandated home to ultimately be left to nature taking its course. The end of Chris will go with a whimper once institutionalized. Overtime people will forget about him, but also realistically this just is disgusting enough to revolt most people from just completely tuning him out totally. The Chris milk ran dry long ago and since then has been a depressing state of affairs.

So either way fellow Kiwis this is the end of Mr Chandler's crazy ride. Take a free complementary husk of corn at the concession stand.

Yup, wrap it up folks. I'll be honest, I think this whole saga has now kind of soured me on following lolcows. Not that it isn't fun, but this is such a peak, it'll be hard for anyone to really top it. Thanks for the husk of corn.

 

[Chef Kef]

I think being institutionalized is most likely if he’s actually charged, although prison is also a possibility. If Chris isn’t charged he’ll probably couch surf and live with Sockness or whoever takes him in. If there’s legitimately no one left willing to and he becomes homeless he probably won’t last long.

 

[Old Greg]

Assuming Barb confirms the incest/rape with the authorities, I take it they won't be allowed to live together anymore?

 

[SammyTheBull]

There is a lot of hope being placed on the state / county that they will do something - The reality sadly is they probably wont.

The hurdles the state has to jump are these:
1 - Barb consenting to a rape kit - If she wont, the state will petition the courts to appoint a Guardian for her to make those decisions
2 - Barb giving a statement - Any statement she gives will be torn apart by any attorney & will be deemed unreliable
3 - Evidence - Depending on the state in which the original calls took place, it is highly likely they are inadmissible as evidence as the tard didn't consent to being recorded
4 - Outside Influence - Chris is detached from reality and has had some degree of third party influence and encouragement in committing these acts
5 - Chris - Any attorney will argue that Chris is not fit for trial, even if he was charged within hours I would expect motions to be filed saying he isn't fit for trial and wanting him evaluated
6 - Third Party - At this point the third party is unknown (IRL) and potentially will not come forward as they are party to a federal crime under 18.2.2 Conspiracy crimes to commit felony

Possible Outcomes:

The state deems Barb unable to care for herself and no longer competent & appoints a Guardian for her as it meets the requirements of VA 64.2-2000, Barb is then placed in a home and Branchland court sold to pay for her care.

Chris will face no charges, the evidence is too shaky on the criminal burden of proof, He will be released into the wild and left to fend for himself. No doubt people will still end up giving him money and say "Oh he never raped her" and he will continue to live his life as if nothing happened, occasionally going to see Barb in her care facility before she dies.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

So either way fellow Kiwis this is the end of Mr Chandler's crazy ride. Take a free complementary husk of corn at the concession stand.

Chris in 1993: "And I just won!"

Chris in 2021: [at a 2-star motel while locked out of the "temple" of 14 BLC after diddling Barb]

 

[Pyre]

The other threads on the subject are garbage, so I'm making this. I have done my best to collect information on the possible fate that Chris will receive from the Virginia Justice System should he actually be arrested for what he's done, which is highly likely.

Should Chris actually be arrested for what he did to Barb, he will be faced with the most difficult period in his life. I've tried to be as thorough and comprehensive as possible in determining what his experience will likely be. After hours of research I can't say I'm encouraged, and I am expecting Chris to be in a very bad position mentally. Many will say he deserves it, but I feel badly for him. He's just too fucking handicapped for me to hate.

In the past decade or so Virginia has been attempting to improve conditions for mentally ill people in it's prison system, but it still isn't close to ideal.

Growing problem​

In five years, the number of people in Virginia’s local jails with mental illnesses increased 18 percent, according to a 2017 report by the Virginia Compensation Board on mental illness in jail.

And the proportion of people in state prisons who have a mental health condition increased from 20.8 percent to 28 percent over eight years.

State Department of Corrections Director Harold Clarke said recidivism can be twice as likely for people with mental illness.

In August, a Virginian-Pilot investigation tracked 404 deaths since 2010 in an effort to examine what happens to people with mental illness in jails throughout the country.

The investigation found dozens of instances in which incarceration exacerbated the symptoms of people with mental health issues, sometimes leading them to harm or kill themselves.

Regardless of improvements they've made, including more mental health staff in prisons and better funding, Chris will be in for a bad time. Chris is obviously mentally ill to us, but the court will need evidence of this for him to be properly housed. I'll provide a PDF containing most of the relevant information I post regarding this. Information outside this PDF will be linked.

To start off, Chris will, hopefully, be screened for mental illness and, again hopefully, be detected quickly. I say hopefully because there are slip ups in this system. If everything goes smoothly and protocol is followed he will receive an initial screening, and then be referred to specialist for an extensive examination.

The purpose of a mental health screening is to make an initial determination of an individual’s mental health status, using a standardized, validated instrument. Language included in paragraph J.2., of Item 70, Chapter 2 (2018 Appropriation Act) requires that all local and regional jails screen each individual booked into jail for mental illness using a scientifically validated instrument, provided that jail staff performing booking are trained in the administration of the validated instrument. The Commissioner of the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Services is charged with designating the instrument to be used for the screenings, and the instrument must be capable of being administered by a jail employee (that does not have to be a health care or mental health care provider).
The Commissioner has designated the use of either the Brief Jail Mental Health Screen (BJMHS) or the Correctional Mental Health Screen (CMHS, for Women or for Men). Questions are included in the survey to gather information regarding current screenings and results using the designated instruments. Fifty-seven (57) jails specifically reported using the BJMHS and/or the CMHS to screen 15,211 inmates and 4,899 inmates, respectively. Of these 20,110 screened inmates, jails report that 3,660 (18.20%) were referred for a comprehensive mental health assessment, however referral percentages varied widely with an average referral percentage of 16.15%.
Although jails confirm they are complying with the new standard it was noted that there are times when an inmate might not be screened. Jails noted that in June 2018, 536 inmates were not screened upon booking. Reasons most often given for an inmate not being screened are: intoxication, aggression toward intake officers, overnight court returnees and weekenders who were previously screened on their initial confinement.

These jails have a very flawed system. Around 20% of inmates deemed worthy of further examination don't receive one, and the amount of time inmates wait before receiving one varies greatly.

The average number of hours an inmate is confined in jail before receiving a comprehensive mental health assessment, if needed, varies from jail to jail. Figure 6 reflects the percentage of jails that reported they typically conduct comprehensive mental health assessments within specific time periods from the initial mental health screening performed at the time of commitment.

As shown, Chris is looking at anywhere from a day, to almost two weeks before being given a thorough examination. Hopefully his condition will be apparent enough for him to be placed in protective custody until this occurs. Best case scenario he's staying the night in big boy jail. Worst case is a couple weeks. Though, the law states that his speed through this system and placement will depend upon how great his needs are.

The path an inmate with mental health needs may take from screening to clinical diagnosis and treatment may be different depending on the acuity of their needs as determined by mental health staff, staff resources and offense specific circumstances (bond, court appearances, violence risk assessment).

This is encouraging. Anyone seeing or talking to Chris can tell he's not stable, so perhaps he'll get lucky and be processed quickly. What isn't encouraging, however, is how few jails are prepared to handle inmates with acute mental health issues. Less than half of Virginia jails have separate housing for mentally ill individuals, and among those that do space is extremely limited.

Twenty-three (23) out of 57 reporting jails have mental health units or bed areas separate from the General Population. In these 23 jails, there are 228 beds for Females and 611 beds for Males.  Jails reported that a total of 4,252 beds would be needed to house all inmates with non-acute mental illness in mental health beds or units, which would currently require 3,413 additional beds.  Of the 7,852 identified mentally ill inmates, 906 were housed in isolation. Twenty-six (26) of the 45 jails that housed mentally ill inmates in isolated or segregated cells did not operate a Mental Health Unit (310 inmates). If a mental health unit existed in the facility, it is possible that these inmates may not have had to be housed in isolation.  Twenty-two (22) jails have noted that they would consider hosting a state-funded Mental Health Residential Treatment Program.

Should everything go perfectly Chris will be taken to a facility with segregated housing for mentally ill inmates, and have his own bed in the meantime. Worst case, absolute worse, is he'll be in the general population until his examination is complete and things go from there. In most cases community service organizations provide assistance in this area, or the services are provided by outsourcing to private contractors.

In 2018, Community Service Boards (CSBs) were again reported to provide the most significant portion of mental health treatment in jails. Community Services Boards have a statutory requirement to evaluate inmates for whom a temporary detention order is being sought (§37.2-809), however they have no statutory obligation to provide treatment in the jail. Although on average the CSB is the most often used provider of mental health treatment, use of the local CSB as the primary treatment provider is most prevalent in jails in the Central and Western Regions (see Appendix B for a list of jails). In the Eastern Region the largest overall provider of treatment is still private contractors. This may also be due to the budget and/or resource constraints of the local CSBs in those regions, or may be by preference of the local or regional jail. Community Services Boards are both state and locally funded so their ability to provide services may vary greatly.

Ruckersville resides in the Central region of Virginia, so if Chris is detained in this region he will likely be assessed by private contractors. However, he could be sent to a variety of jails with higher levels of mental health care provided.

The 2018 five jails with the highest ratio of hours of treatment provided per mentally ill inmate for the month reported in the survey were: Alexandria City Jail (29:1); Loudoun County Jail (26:1); Prince William-Manassas Regional Jail (22:1); Western Tidewater Regional Jail (14:1); and Newport News City Jail (10:1).

The closest jail on this list to Ruckersville is Prince William-Manassas Regional Jail. If Chris is housed here he may receive better care than most facilities in the state can provide him. This jail in particular provides the highest amount of hours in mental health services in all of Virginia's jails and prisons.

The 2018 five jails with the highest numbers of total hours of treatment provided to all inmates for the month reported in the survey were: Prince William-Manassas Regional Jail (4,358 hours); Alexandria City Jail (3,983 hours); Western Virginia Regional Jail (1,982); Loudoun County Jail (1,374 hours); and Arlington County Jail (1,313)

Should Chris be arrested, housing in this facility would be ideal. The services provided are typical of the mental health field, such as independent and group counselling, and medication. However, Jails in Virginia do not have the authority, under any circumstance, to force inmates to take medication. While some medications are provided by the jail, the jail will not disperse many types of medication.

Some inmates with mental illness require the assistance of psychotropic medications. Psychotropic refers to mood altering drugs which affect mental activity, behavior, or perception. Often these medications are provided and dispensed by the jail. However, as noted in the survey, there are certain medications that some jails do not provide. In certain cases an inmate’s medication may be delivered to the jail by a 3rd party, such as a physician treating the offender pre-incarceration, or a family member authorized by the jail to bring the necessary prescribed medication.

If Chris needs to be medicated, a medical professional will have to diagnose and prescribe him medication. I, probably along with many of you, imagine some drugs may help his overall mental state, but they can't legally force him to take any. At least while he's in Jail. Laws are different regarding mental hospitals. It should be noted that while Prince William-Manassas Regional Jail has high rates of mental health services being provided, they rank rather low on medication disbursement.

Chris will almost certainly be housed in Jails located in central Virginia, so here's a list of all of them. I'll include the Jails from the other regions as attachments for the curious.



Once Chris has been screened, evaluated, and ultimately housed, the preliminary court appearances will begin. Odds are he'll receive a Public Defender. He'll go through the first appearances normally, plead guilty or not guilty, etc. In terms of sex offenses Chris may be denied bail, but he may be given bail / bond due to Covid restrictions on Jail numbers. Best case scenario for him is to be denied bail and stay in the system until the trial is over. That way he at least has a roof over his head. Chris being homeless on the street or sleeping in the van long term would end poorly for him I'm certain. Especially if some retard or unstable tranny goes after him on the street like how the Reddit fags are stalking and fucking with him right now.

In regards to his defense during the trial, there was a law in Virginia up until this year that prevented people from using mental illness or any evidence of mental illness in their defense argument unless they were pleading Not Guilty by reason of Insanity specifically. As of this year this laws was repealed, and new criteria were added for judges to consider conditions like Autism when evaluating the case itself.

“I think this [bill] will make a difference for people to truly understand someone as a whole,” Blake told 8News. “I think it’s about time we treat people as individuals.”

Kelmar brought his concerns to Sen. Jennifer McClellan (D-Richmond), who introduced a bill addressing the issue. Del. Jeff Bourne (D-Richmond) has a similar proposal in the House.

The legislation requires a judge to consider a defendant’s disability/mental illness at bail and sentencing stages. It adds training for court-appointed attorneys to provide clients with these conditions with a more rigorous defense.

The bill also repeals a state law that currently bans defendants from introducing evidence about their mental health conditions/disabilities, and how it may have impacted their ability to form criminal intent at the time of the alleged offense.

With this new change in the law, it is possible, however narrowly, that Chris may be found not guilty entirely should a sympathetic judge and / or jury find his mental faculties lacking enough, or that his mental capacity has decayed enough that he simply isn't responsible for his actions. At the very least his attorney should be trained, however minimally, to better assist Chris in navigating the situation he's brought upon himself.

Now, you may be thinking; "But he literally raped his dementia ridden mother, wouldn't that make him a sex offender?' If he is found guilty yes, but even then Democratic Lawmakers in Virginia have also set their sights on another Virginia law that allows the state to keep mentally those convicted of a sex crime in a psychiatric facility indefinitely if they are deemed a public danger. In short, if the law is repealed, Chris could be convicted of raping Barb, be put into a psychiatric facility, and later be released after his sentence even if his mental condition doesn't improve.

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Two Virginia Democratic lawmakers are spearheading a push to repeal a decades-old law that allows the state to hold certain sex offenders at psychiatric facilities indefinitely after their criminal sentences if they are deemed “sexually violent predators.”

Critics say civil commitment laws are fundamentally unfair and violate the constitutional prohibition against punishing someone twice for the same crime. Supporters counter that the laws protect society from repeat offenders who are unable to control their behavior.

Sen. Joe Morrissey and Del. Patrick Hope, both Democrats, are co-sponsoring legislation that would end the state’s authority to civilly commit sex offenders.

“It is as archaic and as Neanderthal a process as I can imagine,” said Morrissey, a defense attorney and lead patron of the bill that would repeal 1999’s Civil Commitment of Sexually Violent Predators Act.

“We don’t sentence people because of what they might do,” he said. “That’s abhorrent to everything that our democracy and our criminal justice system believes in.”

Twenty states and the federal government now have civil commitment laws, which have been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Should this come to pass, I believe it would be a detriment for Chris, his family, the Internet, and society as a whole.. He belongs in a long term care facility. He is just not mentally competent, he can not take care of himself. Should he be found not guilty his only family would be Barb, and should he be found not guilty he could, theoretically, simply return to living with her. Unless she dies, is deemed incompetent herself, requests a restraining order, or her other son comes to take care of her, it is possible Chris will return. Even with everything that has happened I find it highly unlikely Barb will tell him no should he do this, and it is very, very likely that abuse will continue should this situation occur. If the law remains in place the court has the full authority to keep him housed indefinitely, with reviews annually for the first five years and every other year following that time period.

The process begins with an initial screening by the Department of Correction. Based on that, offenders deemed likely to reoffend are given a psychological evaluation and additional review by an interagency committee. That group then makes a recommendation on whether the state attorney general should seek civil commitment. A judge or a jury makes the ultimate decision on whether to commit or release an offender.

Offenders who are committed are sent to the Virginia Center for Behavioral Rehabilitation, where about 405 people are currently housed and a 258-bed expansion is underway. Attorney General Mark Herring’s office says inmates are placed in a “secure, intensive, inpatient sex offender treatment program,” while critics say it’s a place where sex offenders are forced to serve a second prison term.

Offenders are entitled to an annual review hearing for the first five years and every two years after that, when a court decides whether the person remains sexually dangerous and needs to stay at the facility or can be released with monitoring and supervision.

Should Chris be found guilty, this would be, in my opinion, the absolute best place for him. I don't believe his mental health is in the realm of fixable, but him being in a full time care facility where has no Internet access would be the best for him. Should he be released he will face a torrent of abuse from the Internet and will not be able to handle it. Or, worst case scenario, some retard may actually go after him with the intent to injure or maybe even kill him. The trans hotline psychos went after Null Mundane Matt style, so it is within the realm of possibility that someone would go so far with Chris. Even if his safety were guaranteed without Null he isn't capable of making money through commissions and will not be able to stay off the streets. I firmly believe that Chris is so mentally handicapped that he isn't responsible for his horrific and grotesques actions. If anyone needs to be a lifetime ward of the mental health system it is Chris Chan. The absolute, unequivocally best place for Chris is in a mental health facility. It's best for the public, it's best for Barb and the rest of his family, and it's the best for Chris.

As a side note, I like reading about criminally insane people, and I assume many of you do too. I'm including a PDF to a book titled Deviant by Harold Schechter. The situation of Chris and what he did to Barb reminded me strongly of Ed Gein, and should you read it I doubt you'll disagree with me. if anything, it'll give you something to read about should Chris finally be committed. In the mean time, here's something wholesome as a palette cleanser.

Edit #1: Chris was arrested and is currently being detained in Henrico County Jail.
Edit #2: He's been denied bail according to Greene County Polcie.

 

[Postal Dude]

tldr

 

[Corsola]

I just scrolled to the bottom and this guy really busted out a pie chart over some internet tard

 

[Lester Jones]

Chris needs to be taken to prison with men. Let the inmates know that he also raped an elderly woman with dementia. Let's see how he enjoys his time.

 

[srrody]

This does not even deserve a captains log introduction because this is dead serious.

 

[Coelacanth]

I'll give you this - you put a lot of thought into the OP.

But you still deserve a puzzle piece for taking way too many paragraphs to basically say: "Chris is fucked."

 

[Aldora]

You have too much spare time on your hand.

 

[Fapcop]

Oh wow! Imagine my surprise when I saw that Democrat legislators passed a bill that made it easier to give criminals a slap on the wrist because “muh autism”!

Definetely never saw that one coming!