Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

Eh genes are part of it, never cope just work with it. I have MONSTER calves. But T Rex arms. My bro is 6'2" and has a "prison" build dudes swole esp for closing on 40. He lifts hard eats clean etc. But I have bigger calves, my 95 year old Grandma does too!! Grandma also has about same bicep size as me .

Ya'll just gotta laugh and lift because it's good for you. Fuck cope lift.

This a pet peeve of mine, a lot of people who say that calves are mostly about genetics, or that their calves are beeg without doing anything because of genetics; that makes as much sense as saying that someone will have tiny biceps because of genetics or that they arms will be huge because of genetics, this never happens IRL, you never see men with arms like spongebob when he got those inflatable arms without lifting, and that's because it doesn't make sense.

It would be like saying "forearms are about genetics, I have big forearms and I don't even train", if you work a job that trains your forearms (such as being a mechanic) you will get big foreams, it's not about genetics, in the case of calves it's about walking, running and playing sports, each step is like doing a bicep curls with a can of beans (Like in that meme of the redditors in the communist subreddit talking about getting in shape)

I'm having a tism melty over this because calves seem to be the only muscle people think can be well developed even without training, the much more logical explanation is lots of volume via walking, running and playing sports.

 

[The Stranger]

the much more logical explanation is lots of volume via walking, running and playing sports

And don't forget being fat

 

[mars]

Going to start training my calves 4x a week instead of 2x a week. They're already pretty decent but I wonder how volume will effect them and it's an easy muscle to train

 

[SOLDIER OF WALES]

Just benched 180 3x8 yesterday. Since the 1RM calc goes out to 225, can I technically say "i bench 225" and call people faggots and such or should I aim higher (like 185-195) or actually 1rm 225 before saying this?

 

[mars]

Just benched 180 3x8 yesterday. Since the 1RM calc goes out to 225, can I technically say "i bench 225" and call people faggots and such or should I aim higher (like 185-195) or actually 1rm 225 before saying this?

I think 1rm calculators are a generally inaccurate above 3 or 4 reps. Lifting near your max is a lot different than lifting something 8+ times. See if you can hit 215x3 or something like that.

 

[HowlingChasm]

You don’t bench 225 until you bench 225. What kind of nerd ass shit is this?

 

[SOLDIER OF WALES]

You don’t bench 225 until you bench 225. What kind of nerd ass shit is this?

I'm too lazy to 1rm...

 

[whatsupwthat]

I'm too lazy to 1rm...

How are you too lazy to 1RM, it's literally the lift that requires the least amount of repetitions?

Just benched 180 3x8 yesterday. Since the 1RM calc goes out to 225, can I technically say "i bench 225" and call people faggots and such or should I aim higher (like 185-195) or actually 1rm 225 before saying this?

Stop with the gay shit, please bro. We get it, you're happy that you're seeing progress in your lifts, but talking about it this way is just really gay and weird. Don't say you bench 225 until you actually bench 225. Until then just be a normal person and say you bench 180 for 8 reps.

 

[24nagging]

it's literally the lift that requires the least amount of repetitions?

what do you mean? the pecs need effective reps like any muscle for growth
I understand why he doesn't wanna 1RM. Failure is likely and very catastrophic. You can get way into your head and fail anyways. You need more warm up reps to make sure you don't screw it up. It's annoying

 

[SOLDIER OF WALES]

Stop with the gay shit, please bro. We get it, you're happy that you're seeing progress in your lifts, but talking about it this way is just really gay and weird.

something tells me you’re speaking to me in this way because you bench 185 3x8 but that’s just me

 

[The Stranger]

Tracking your 1RM is a waste of time unless you're planning on competing in powerlifting

 

[mars]

Tracking your 1RM is a waste of time unless you're planning on competing in powerlifting

Aren't you the least bit curious about the absolute pinnacle of what you personally can achieve with max effort and seeing that pinnacle raise over time as you put in more and more effort and train harder and harder? Or is it just dull optimization. Tracking a a few numbers is a huge waste of time. Don't worry about it. Just go in day after day and have no fun! No joy in your progress is allowed! Waste of time! People can only lift the way you approve otherwise they're throwing their precious life and time in the trash.

 

[Lords Greatsword]

If you know how to fail on bench then failing on 225 shouldn't be terrible, at least if you're not far from it (very big emphasis on this conditional). I remember back when I tried to do 200 for a double and on the second rep, I literally just brought it to my hips and sat up with it before hoisting it up to the liftoff safeties. Seldom asking for a spotter has forced me to know how to handle a failed bench.
Regardless, if you are 1RM'ing it then it's definitely safest to see if someone's available to spot you.

 

[whatsupwthat]

what do you mean? the pecs need effective reps like any muscle for growth
I understand why he doesn't wanna 1RM. Failure is likely and very catastrophic. You can get way into your head and fail anyways. You need more warm up reps to make sure you don't screw it up. It's annoying

Ever heard of spotters? Also it doesn't take an hour to do a 1RM, maybe like 10 extra minutes than what you'd usually do. You don't have to 1RM every time you're in the fucking gym, but doing it once every few months is really not that annoying.

Tracking your 1RM is a waste of time unless you're planning on competing in powerlifting

Mike Israetel is that you?

 

[24nagging]

once every few months is really not that annoying.

4 u
people can feel and think differently from you know

Aren't you the least bit curious about the absolute pinnacle of what you personally can achieve with max effort and seeing that pinnacle raise over time as you put in more and more effort and train harder and harder?

if you don't have that level of adoration and adulation for the bench press, no. It's not even the best way to measure the strength of the pecs or triceps or front shoulders

If you know how to fail on bench then failing on 225 shouldn't be terrible

true. This vid is a good example on how I do it

 

[whatsupwthat]

4 u
people can feel and think differently from you know

You are the most reddit-brained person I've had the misfortune of speaking to on this site. My fucking god lol.

 

[dick brain]

people can feel and think differently from you

Yeah no shit it's called being wrong lmao

 

[24nagging]

Yeah no shit it's called being wrong lmao

being a lazy nigger is not about being wrong, is just a different nature man. There ain't nothing you can you do about

 

[SOLDIER OF WALES]

jesus fucking christ i'm sorry for asking a question about 1rm no need to have a fuckin sperg war over bench press lol

 

[The Stranger]

Tracking a a few numbers is a huge waste of time.

Obviously you should track numbers, that's the foundation of progressive overload. 1RM is just risking injury for the sake of ego. At the end of the day I don't care what any of you do in the gym, but I try passing on the good habits to new people.