Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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I kept seeing stuff about how strong people in the past were so I’ve been trying to learn more workouts or daily actions people back then would do to get stronger. One thing workout I’ve been doing lately and I’ve seen great results is to put 10-20lbs on both sides of a preacher curl bar and do a rowing motion. It was awkward at first but I feel it working several upper body muscles really well so I definitely recommend it (wear wrist straps the first few times you do it if you don’t have strong wrists). I’m aware of how autistic this sounds but I swear the results are great.
 
I kept seeing stuff about how strong people in the past were so I’ve been trying to learn more workouts or daily actions people back then would do to get stronger. One thing workout I’ve been doing lately and I’ve seen great results is to put 10-20lbs on both sides of a preacher curl bar and do a rowing motion. It was awkward at first but I feel it working several upper body muscles really well so I definitely recommend it (wear wrist straps the first few times you do it if you don’t have strong wrists). I’m aware of how autistic this sounds but I swear the results are great.
So like an EZ Bar or a 9kg short barbell?
 
I kept seeing stuff about how strong people in the past were so I’ve been trying to learn more workouts or daily actions people back then would do to get stronger. One thing workout I’ve been doing lately and I’ve seen great results is to put 10-20lbs on both sides of a preacher curl bar and do a rowing motion.
This sounds a lot like doing a row but using a different bar. As harambe said, we're not entirely sure if you mean an EZ bar (the weird barbell with the vaguely w-like curve) or just a short straight barbell. I've never tried it, but I'm sure the hand positioning could be a nice change.
It was awkward at first but I feel it working several upper body muscles really well so I definitely recommend it (wear wrist straps the first few times you do it if you don’t have strong wrists). I’m aware of how autistic this sounds but I swear the results are great.
I'm sure it'll work a good number of upper body muscles, but then again so will most other rowing exercise variations. Currently my doctrine is to have a few variations of each lift (different joint angles, grip width etc) and swap them around every month or so. If it sounds like a retard's implementation of conjugate, it is, and I got this idea from Matt Wenning. Of course I'll have my favorites which I'll do more often, but I won't exclusively do them.
 
So like an EZ Bar or a 9kg short barbell?
I actually never heard it called an EZ bar before I always called it a preacher curls bar.
I'm sure it'll work a good number of upper body muscles, but then again so will most other rowing exercise variations. Currently my doctrine is to have a few variations of each lift (different joint angles, grip width etc) and swap them around every month or so. If it sounds like a retard's implementation of conjugate, it is, and I got this idea from Matt Wenning. Of course I'll have my favorites which I'll do more often, but I won't exclusively do them.
The rowing motion is like what you would do on a kayak (I’m im standing straight). So I feel it mostly in by back and shoulders.
 
After a 16 hour workday I managed to avoid the temptation to procrastinate and get myself to the gym. I'm still not pushing nearly enough weight to brag about, and feel self conscious about it when the gym is busy, (My military press is only 120, and my bench is only 140) but I'm consistantly adding 5-10 lbs a week, so if I stay consistant I reckon Ill get somewhere respectable in a couple 3 months. Originally the plan was to hit the gym Monday and Tuesday, with today being a rest day, but I couldn't make it yesterday so I pushed myself to make it today. I feel good about that though I'm now tired as all hell.
 
After a 16 hour workday I managed to avoid the temptation to procrastinate and get myself to the gym. I'm still not pushing nearly enough weight to brag about, and feel self conscious about it when the gym is busy, (My military press is only 120, and my bench is only 140) but I'm consistantly adding 5-10 lbs a week, so if I stay consistant I reckon Ill get somewhere respectable in a couple 3 months. Originally the plan was to hit the gym Monday and Tuesday, with today being a rest day, but I couldn't make it yesterday so I pushed myself to make it today. I feel good about that though I'm now tired as all hell.
Good work. Make sure not to push yourself when you start hitting your limits. Trust the process and keep working even when you start to plateau!
 
After a 16 hour workday I managed to avoid the temptation to procrastinate and get myself to the gym. I'm still not pushing nearly enough weight to brag about, and feel self conscious about it when the gym is busy, (My military press is only 120, and my bench is only 140) but I'm consistantly adding 5-10 lbs a week, so if I stay consistant I reckon Ill get somewhere respectable in a couple 3 months. Originally the plan was to hit the gym Monday and Tuesday, with today being a rest day, but I couldn't make it yesterday so I pushed myself to make it today. I feel good about that though I'm now tired as all hell.
120 isn't bad at all for military press. Keep it up man

Had a shit day today and almost packed my shit up and went home in frustration. Didn't get near enough rest and couldn't pull worth a damn. Getting set up for block pulls in my gym sucks major fucking dick in the first place, and today was a max effort kind of thing. Should have weighted down but took the L and gave up on the last set of pulls and did everything else a bit lighter. Finished but I am fucking beat today
 
120 isn't bad at all for military press. Keep it up man

Had a shit day today and almost packed my shit up and went home in frustration. Didn't get near enough rest and couldn't pull worth a damn. Getting set up for block pulls in my gym sucks major fucking dick in the first place, and today was a max effort kind of thing. Should have weighted down but took the L and gave up on the last set of pulls and did everything else a bit lighter. Finished but I am fucking beat today
I feel you, some days you just dont have the energy, but as I'm starting to understand sometimes just getting in there and putting in what effort you can is a victory in itself.
 
After a 16 hour workday I managed to avoid the temptation to procrastinate and get myself to the gym. I'm still not pushing nearly enough weight to brag about, and feel self conscious about it when the gym is busy, (My military press is only 120, and my bench is only 140) but I'm consistantly adding 5-10 lbs a week, so if I stay consistant I reckon Ill get somewhere respectable in a couple 3 months. Originally the plan was to hit the gym Monday and Tuesday, with today being a rest day, but I couldn't make it yesterday so I pushed myself to make it today. I feel good about that though I'm now tired as all hell.
Consistency is the number one most important factor in getting anywhere worthwhile in strength training. If you want to get strong, if you want a physique worth having, prioritize consistently training.

Push yourself hard every single time you can. These people talking about not pushing yourself mean well but they're not helping you. If your recovery is on point, what you're capable of enduring and growing from would legitimately surprise you. Get used to being in a lot of pain after sets because you hit 25+ reps. Get used to being sore all the time. Most importantly, stop worrying about results and instead become obsessed with the process. This helps you stay consistent, helps you not do dumb shit that will injure you, and helps you focus on technical mastery (I can't possibly emphasize enough how important that part is).

I have a 496 Wilks because I became obsessed with the process. It puts me well above the average person but still worlds away from the true elite. Even still, it feels fucking great having something few have and nobody can ever hope to buy. Plus maybe you'll feel better about yourself and stop being such a faggot on this site and lose that pink triangle.
 
Consistency is the number one most important factor in getting anywhere worthwhile in strength training. If you want to get strong, if you want a physique worth having, prioritize consistently training.
Yup. That's what my coach keeps saying,
"You get better results from a shit program done consistantly than the best program done inconsistantly."
Plus maybe you'll feel better about yourself and stop being such a faggot on this site and lose that pink triangle.
Why would I want to get rid of my pink triangle. I got it by getting a mod so ass-hurt he had to ask another mod in a different subforum to give it to me just so he could pretend his panties weren't in a bunch. Thats the pink badge of trollery right dere!


Edited to add, I hadn't heard of the wilks score before so I punched in the numbers from my 2 most recent workouts. Apparently I got a 133.08 which marks me as a beginner. Sounds about right.

BTW managed to push myself to hit the gym this morning. I realky didn't want to, for some reason it's harder to push myself to go in the morning that after a 14-16 hour day. Glad I did though as my dispatcher literally called me with a load as I was walking out of the gym. Benefit is, I've bern feeling nice and sore and noodley all day.
 
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Can one of you swole autists redpill me on protein powder?

Does it matter at all? Would they help if I'm really only interested in strength and health rather than size and aesthetics? Are they all basically the same? Are there any good ones that are low sugar and vaguely vanilla flavored?
 
Can one of you swole autists redpill me on protein powder?

Does it matter at all? Would they help if I'm really only interested in strength and health rather than size and aesthetics? Are they all basically the same? Are there any good ones that are low sugar and vaguely vanilla flavored?
It's just dry whey. It doesn't have any magical properties and you do not get anything from it that you do not get from eating whole foods containing protein. It is used primarily because it is an easy and convenient way to get more protein in, so to answer your first question, no. It is totally possible to get more than enough protein with whole foods. It's not bad though. Also makes no difference if you're training for strength or aesthetics as it doesn't impact any of those things.
 
Can one of you swole autists redpill me on protein powder?

Does it matter at all? Would they help if I'm really only interested in strength and health rather than size and aesthetics?
It's literally just a way to get protein in, nothing more, nothing less. Granted, it's a (relatively) cheap and convenient way, but also probably doesnt have the micronutrients (eating a steak, for instance, would give you iron, etc) or satiety of whole foods.
Are they all basically the same?
No, even ignoring taste, some have more fillers and bullshit than others. Also if you're really autistic about it, plant based protein powders generally have different levels of amino acids compared to whey and animal based protein sources (generally lacking BCAAs and EAAs). Some also do "amino spiking" where they add large amounts of pure amino acid in order to make it seem like they have more protein.
Are there any good ones that are low sugar and vaguely vanilla flavored?
Optimum Nutrition "Gold Standard 100% Whey" used to be my go to, but I only ever got it in chocolate - can't comment on their vanilla flavor. But this is their nutrition label:
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As you can see, it's got 24g of protein in 120cals - which means only 24cals arent from protein.

What I've been using recently is Gorilla Mode protein. Compared to ON, it produces a thicker shake and tastes better when blended with water (n.b. both taste best when added to milk). Slightly better macros, with 25g protein in 120cals
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Now, circling back to point 2, on fillers and bullshit. This is Syntha-6. I've never bought this brand, but as you can see, it's got way more calories for 22g of protein. Look at the ingredients list, they add stuff like MCT powder (basically coconut oil)
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This week has been a test of patience and resolve. Didn't workout monday due to schedule. Come tuesday I was kicking myself for buying into my excuses so I did both monday and tuesdays workout, 10 exercises in total. The only one I skipped was barrell press because I was already doing dumbell benchs and thought they were similar enough to want to avoid overlap. Of course I didnt think about the similarity between arnold presses and military press untill I realised I was doing less reps at the same weight as my previous workout during my milpresses. Bottom line I got it done. Tonight I have less than 5 hours untill I have to be up again, 7 at the time I left for the gym after sleeping only 6 hours in the last 36, and ran out of gas on my last few sets, then couldnt get an uber back to the truck stop. Finally begged a ride from an overweight middleage black guy at the wallyworld next door. Now I've got 5 hours before I have to be up again and I still need to shower and eat dinner.


Bottom line, If you are wondering if you can get to the gym you can. If I can do it, anyone can.
 
I had to skip last week because I had to go abroad, but when I got back to it this week it was a little harder than I remembered. I even got the DOMS somehow. I didn't think you could lose much muscle in one week.
 
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