Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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CharcoalChkn dijo:
Man, is there a polite way to approach someone and suggest better form? I saw a woman doing the most FUCKED UP squats ever today, like she is going to hurt her back very badly if she doesn't fix this. Basically bending forward from her hips at a 90 degree angle, no actual squatting in her legs, 10 degree angle at best in her knees and loading the weight entirely on her neck.

I tried to be sneaky and ask her what she's doing because it looked interesting, then when she said squats I tried to be like oh try to do "x" and "y" for a better work out, she was so abrasive to me after that lmao.

Maybe this is an exercise I don't know about but I felt like such an ass. 😳
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Well not really unless you know them personally or they ask. You don't want to be that guy and even if you mean well you will still come off as that guy. Best thing is for them to learn the hard way. People hate being told what they are doing is wrong/retarded.
 
Lowlife Adventures dijo:
I'm fairly new to weightlifting and there's one thing that's been bugging me a bit. So I have a home gym and do the basic lifts with light weights, but I'm actually hesitant of going much heavier because of the potential long term effects on your joints, spine, etc. I try to mitigate these issues by working on proper form and only increasing weights when the current ones are already too easy, but I still wonder how much the body can actually safely handle over long periods of time.

Is it possible to determine an "optimal" weight upper limit for health?
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One thing to keep in mind about injuries is that they're often cumulative and will slowly accumulate even if the weight doesn't buck break you immediately.
But generally, if you
- don't have people with joint issues in your family;
- don't take steroids;
- keep proper form;
- take your time;
- warm up properly and don't overtrain;
you'll hit the wall (in terms of how much you can lift) long before entering the Snap City. Without utilizing complex training routines (idk how they are properly called in English, but stuff like "ladder" reps, reducing amplitude, weekly/quarterly cycling etc.) you'll hit that wall even earlier.
A lot of joint problems aren't even caused by lifting per se, but by training with heavy weights while the body is dehydrated during the shredding (a common problem among professional bodybuilders and fighters).
 
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CharcoalChkn dijo:
How there were two people there that watched her sit that weight on her neck and didn't stop her?? W T F Jesus that's brutal.
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I mean, why should they? They are there to workout, and not babysitting for retards. That's the job for the ones that actually get paid to work there. So blame them and not the other customers.
Imaging paying to work out in a gym, and then you have to babysit others without any form of compensation.

I got a question for you guys. I recently decided to add in calf raises (sled machine), but I'm confused as to how much weight I should do. Should I do as much weight as I do on the leg press? Because currently I take 15 raises on 110 kg/242 lbs, and the exhaustion feels more like when you're conditioning and not shredding up the muscle fibers. So I don't feel sore at all.
 
Vingle dijo:
I mean, why should they? They are there to workout, and not babysitting for retards. That's the job for the ones that actually get paid to work there. So blame them and not the other customers.
Imaging paying to work out in a gym, and then you have to babysit others without any form of compensation.
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I mean, judging from the video, it looked like they were there with her/assisting. Not just randoms.
 
PowerLifting needs change to be brought back to a respected place. Most people have moved on to Olympic lifting and strongman but I used to enjoy pl until the extreme limited rom
 
Vingle dijo:
I got a question for you guys. I recently decided to add in calf raises (sled machine), but I'm confused as to how much weight I should do. Should I do as much weight as I do on the leg press? Because currently I take 15 raises on 110 kg/242 lbs, and the exhaustion feels more like when you're conditioning and not shredding up the muscle fibers. So I don't feel sore at all.
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Are you doing the full range of motion for the calf muscles? I sometimes do a super set with leg press and calf raises, so it's the same weight.
 
Today at long last I made it back to lifting. Did a couple of running and some light stuff sessions over the week, light bench and arm day on Saturday, gave some safety bar squats a try, some pullovers, light calisthenics, anything where I didn't put too much pressure or tension on my wrist.

Great news honestly, hit 120kg for 5 reps and then 2 back offs at 105 for 8 on the squat, and did 3 sets of 6 at 45kg on overhead press, had no trouble with the stupid tendonitis, no trouble doing my accessories for arms and back.

Tomorrow is another doctor appointment, then bench and deadlift. Rerunning Jeff Nipples powerbuilding 1.0, excited to give it a go.
Vingle dijo:
I got a question for you guys. I recently decided to add in calf raises (sled machine), but I'm confused as to how much weight I should do. Should I do as much weight as I do on the leg press? Because currently I take 15 raises on 110 kg/242 lbs, and the exhaustion feels more like when you're conditioning and not shredding up the muscle fibers. So I don't feel sore at all.
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If you were fat or cycle a lot that's not that crazy. Can try pausing at the top of the stretch and at the bottom to eliminate momentum and maximize that stretch. Really makes my calves feel like they're about to fuck off and explode on me.

Also has anyone ever performed bent elbow dumbell or barbell pullovers? Seems like a combo of skullcrusher and pullover, very interested if anyone has any tips or experience with it
 
Told a guy this week not to lock his knees on leg press, told him to look up leg press leg snaps. I did my part. It's on him now.
 
Helvítis Túristi dijo:
Are you doing the full range of motion for the calf muscles? I sometimes do a super set with leg press and calf raises, so it's the same weight.
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I think, but since I just started doing it, it probably take some sessions to get it right. Just watched some dudes with bigger calves than me taking that low of a weight. So I just got confused by that.
Harambe dijo:
If you were fat or cycle a lot that's not that crazy. Can try pausing at the top of the stretch and at the bottom to eliminate momentum and maximize that stretch.
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Never been fat, and I don't cycle, I'm just surprising strong in my legs apparently. But gotcha, I only paused at the bottom. Gonna try pausing at the top too.
 
CharcoalChkn dijo:
Man, is there a polite way to approach someone and suggest better form? I saw a woman doing the most FUCKED UP squats ever today, like she is going to hurt her back very badly if she doesn't fix this. Basically bending forward from her hips at a 90 degree angle, no actual squatting in her legs, 10 degree angle at best in her knees and loading the weight entirely on her neck.

I tried to be sneaky and ask her what she's doing because it looked interesting, then when she said squats I tried to be like oh try to do "x" and "y" for a better work out, she was so abrasive to me after that lmao.

Maybe this is an exercise I don't know about but I felt like such an ass. 😳
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I saw a skinny high school dyel doing forearm curls the other day. It took all of my power not to go over and tell him why he’s retarded and that there are dozens of other better exercises that will make his forearms bigger.
 
CharcoalChkn dijo:
Man, is there a polite way to approach someone and suggest better form? I saw a woman doing the most FUCKED UP squats ever today, like she is going to hurt her back very badly if she doesn't fix this. Basically bending forward from her hips at a 90 degree angle, no actual squatting in her legs, 10 degree angle at best in her knees and loading the weight entirely on her neck.

I tried to be sneaky and ask her what she's doing because it looked interesting, then when she said squats I tried to be like oh try to do "x" and "y" for a better work out, she was so abrasive to me after that lmao.

Maybe this is an exercise I don't know about but I felt like such an ass. 😳
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I have given up trying to give people advice on squats. People are gonna quarter squat 275 pounds at my gym and nothing I say will ever get them to stop
 
Hivemind hepl

I started working out before covid, weights mostly and started making gains and getting swole.
Over the last 9 months no so much because work sapped all my energy and gains gone bye bye.
Can you suggest a good lifting programme to get back into it so I can hit as much as possible without keeling over and being dead, or hurting myself. Gym has just about everything.
 
CaptainAutism69 dijo:
Hivemind hepl

I started working out before covid, weights mostly and started making gains and getting swole.
Over the last 9 months no so much because work sapped all my energy and gains gone bye bye.
Can you suggest a good lifting programme to get back into it so I can hit as much as possible without keeling over and being dead, or hurting myself. Gym has just about everything.
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This is my routine and I love it.

4x8 bench
4x6 pullups
4x8 barbell OHP
4x8 barbell bent over rows
4x10 curls

Throw in squats or deadlift when you feel like it and I hop on the treadmill at the end. I try to do some variation of this every day and brother, let me tel you, I have put on some muscle. And I’m in and out in an hour or less.
 
William Tyndale dijo:
I saw a skinny high school dyel doing forearm curls the other day. It took all of my power not to go over and tell him why he’s retarded and that there are dozens of other better exercises that will make his forearms bigger.
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Wrist curls are only good if you superset them with other workouts like rows tbh. Just wasting your time if doing them by itself.
 
One of my electives is an eight week course where I just have to use the campus gym for x amount of hours.
So, I'm getting credit for pumping iron and mogging Liberal Arts fags. For reference, the 100s have clearly been untouched for quite a while, and these Zoomers are at most 160lbs of raw spaghetti.
Jasper2K dijo:
Wrist curls are only good if you superset them with other workouts like rows tbh. Just wasting your time if doing them by itself.
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Counterpoint, though I agree with you overall. They can be useful for prehab, and I always preach doing reverse wrist curls to prevent tendon issues. Otherwise, like nigga just hold shit like bro just pick up something heavy lmao.
 
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