Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

[Tren Shapiro]

Wait, you don't have more than one? Protein powders are like spices in your spice rack. Sometimes I want cajun pork, other times I want curry chicken. I have regular chocolate to mix with my oats, and a fun flavor for other times.

I mean, you do you, but I like a variety. Wish I could get variety protein powder like the popcorn tins that have 3 different flavors.

I have two saltine crackers logged in the snack section of MyFitnessPal. I don't do fun. I don't do flavor. I'm cutting and will not be tempted by your talk of "fun flavors".

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

Wait, you don't have more than one? Protein powders are like spices in your spice rack. Sometimes I want cajun pork, other times I want curry chicken. I have regular chocolate to mix with my oats, and a fun flavor for other times.

I mean, you do you, but I like a variety. Wish I could get variety protein powder like the popcorn tins that have 3 different flavors.

I really only do vanilla and choc, similar to charcoalchkn. That's partially because I don't deal with the companies doing novelty flavors, I've only ever bought from Optimum Nutrition and Gorilla Mode.

And even if they did do a limited edition novelty run, I wouldnt go out of my way to buy it, as I buy around sales and I do supplements to supplement, not for fun.

And even if I wanted the flavors I could just do something like add peanut butter to my chocolate flavored protein to mimic a reeses collab, for instance.

And even if they dropped it during a sale and discounted it, I like reliability. Chocolate and vanilla have served me well, I'm not changing what works already!

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

I'll be real, I think protein powder is mostly unnecessary if you just make an effort to eat more meat, fish, and eggs. It depends on your situation, and protein is important, but I would recommend 25g of protein from good food over 25g from protein powder. But if you just don't have the stomach for more food, yeah it can supplement your diet.
What I personally use for shakes is powdered milk and I mix in cocoa powder and honey or whatever I want. The reason I do this is because I eat plenty of protein, but an extra source of calories and a decent mix of nutrients helps when trying to gain.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

I'm fairly new to weightlifting and there's one thing that's been bugging me a bit. So I have a home gym and do the basic lifts with light weights, but I'm actually hesitant of going much heavier because of the potential long term effects on your joints, spine, etc. I try to mitigate these issues by working on proper form and only increasing weights when the current ones are already too easy, but I still wonder how much the body can actually safely handle over long periods of time.

Is it possible to determine an "optimal" weight upper limit for health?

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

IF there's an upper limit, it's retardedly high.

But all miracles require sacrifice, and for me, I'm trying to go heavy, and I accept the risks that come with it.

 

[Mr.Logistics]

Second time hitting the gym and I feel like I'm doing everything wrong. As I'm tip toeing my way in. First vist was pure cardio aiming for 15 minutes on rowing and assault bike. Tapped out at 10 and 8 respectively.

This visit was upper body via the gym's program, 12 sets 3 reps of cable seat row, lat machine and free weight front/lat raises. But I didn't feel it in the muscel for the lat or row. I used 30kg (~61pounds) to get the motion but didn't feel much. Was I going too light? As I'm not highschool scrawny but I'm a framelet

 

[Barry McKockner]

I'm not dogging anyone for keeping it simple. It just makes it less enjoyable for me to do the same thing all the time. Variety keeps it fresh and makes it easier to stay on goal for me, especially with a large fat loss goal.

I'll be real, I think protein powder is mostly unnecessary if you just make an effort to eat more meat, fish, and eggs. It depends on your situation, and protein is important, but I would recommend 25g of protein from good food over 25g from protein powder. But if you just don't have the stomach for more food, yeah it can supplement your diet.
What I personally use for shakes is powdered milk and I mix in cocoa powder and honey or whatever I want. The reason I do this is because I eat plenty of protein, but an extra source of calories and a decent mix of nutrients helps when trying to gain.

My macro split and calorie target requires me to intake 358g of protein. I physically cannot eat all of that in real meat every day. I don't have the stomach, money, or time for it.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

This visit was upper body via the gym's program, 12 sets 3 reps of cable seat row, lat machine and free weight front/lat raises. But I didn't feel it in the muscel for the lat or row. I used 30kg (~61pounds) to get the motion but didn't feel much. Was I going too light? As I'm not highschool scrawny but I'm a framelet

It might be that your form was bad, or that you were going too light, or that you were doing too few reps. I also don't know if 30kg is supposed to be challenging to you, since starting strength can vary.

By lat machine I assume you mean the LAT Pulldown?

You arent giving us a ton of info here, so I'll share some general tips.
- Seated cable row: elbows close to body for more lats, elbows flared out for more traps
- Lat pulldown: Neutral or Supinated grip for more lats, pronated grip for more traps.
- I tend to feel it in the lats more if I lean back slightly
- I also tend to favor a grip width equal to my chest width or narrower. Supposedly the lats wrap around the ribcage, so it might lead to a greater stretch
- I tend to feel the muscle more if I go close to failure, especially if I do higher reps

 

[CowPox]

Today,

12x2 50lbs seated shoulder dumbell press
10x2 50lbs seated shoulder dumbell press
16x4 30lbs front raises alternating
2 minute intervals

 

[Tren Shapiro]

I'm fairly new to weightlifting and there's one thing that's been bugging me a bit. So I have a home gym and do the basic lifts with light weights, but I'm actually hesitant of going much heavier because of the potential long term effects on your joints, spine, etc. I try to mitigate these issues by working on proper form and only increasing weights when the current ones are already too easy, but I still wonder how much the body can actually safely handle over long periods of time.

Is it possible to determine an "optimal" weight upper limit for health?

Go heavy in the 8-12 rep range while maintaining good form and you'll be fine. The weight should never become "too easy". Injuries typically come from people trying to ego lift and hit a new one rep max. If you start developing pain, lower the weight and check your form or find a different exercise that works the same muscle group but may be less prone to issues.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Second time hitting the gym and I feel like I'm doing everything wrong. As I'm tip toeing my way in. First vist was pure cardio aiming for 15 minutes on rowing and assault bike. Tapped out at 10 and 8 respectively.

This visit was upper body via the gym's program, 12 sets 3 reps of cable seat row, lat machine and free weight front/lat raises. But I didn't feel it in the muscel for the lat or row. I used 30kg (~61pounds) to get the motion but didn't feel much. Was I going too light? As I'm not highschool scrawny but I'm a framelet

Don't worry about tapping out on cardio if you reached your limit. The heart and lungs need development and conditioning just like any other muscle (yes, i know lungs arent muscles). Just keep at it. If you tapped from boredom, then you need to push through that.

Also, when you grip for back, don't wrap your thumb around the handle. Just use your fingers. Don't know why, but it puts less load on my biceps and more on my back.

 

[Ahriman]

F John, still giving us excellent advice, from the big gym in the sky.

 

[cumster]

ok i figured out why the fuck my lifts dropped like 7% after just one deload week - it's because i haven't been taking any creatine for the last ~3 months to see whether it's placebo or not, so after 1 week of taking it again i am back to squatting 180kg for 5 reps no probs

test complete - creatine is not placebo

 

[Barry McKockner]

ok i figured out why the fuck my lifts dropped like 7% after just one deload week - it's because i haven't been taking any creatine for the last ~3 months to see whether it's placebo or not, so after 1 week of taking it again i am back to squatting 180kg for 5 reps no probs

test complete - creatine is not placebo

Every single video and website could have told you that lol.

 

[Vingle]

I'm actually hesitant of going much heavier because of the potential long term effects on your joints, spine, etc.

Taking collagen supplements will work as a preventive. I had a knee and foot that were hurting, while it isn't completely good yet. As I have only taken collagen for a few weeks. The pain is much less.
You can do your own research, because yes. The research about collagen isn't set in stone and it seems bs.
I've seen Ostarine have success in healing joint pain, and its basically the safest SARM out there. But it also mean you won't gain much muscle with it.

I'm not dogging anyone for keeping it simple. It just makes it less enjoyable for me to do the same thing all the time. Variety keeps it fresh and makes it easier to stay on goal for me, especially with a large fat loss goal.

On the topic of flavours to protein powder with different flavours. I just buy what's the cheapest, and it just happens the brand has several flavours. I usually buy different bags of flavours and use up that each bag before I begin on a new one.
I do use protein powder in my homemade gainer shake. So it doesn't taste artificial and nasty, which they would by itself.

My macro split and calorie target requires me to intake 358g of protein. I physically cannot eat all of that in real meat every day. I don't have the stomach, money, or time for it.

Way too much protein.

Anyway, I got my stack today with the SARM Ligandrol and the no-SARM Ibutamoren. I'm going goblin mode in a few weeks.

 

[Tren Shapiro]

Anyway, I got my stack today with the SARM Ligandrol and the no-SARM Ibutamoren. I'm going goblin mode in a few weeks.

Gainer shakes, SARMs, and MK-667? I heard MK-667 hunger can get pretty intense. Make sure you don't go Kyriakos Grizzly mode.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Taking collagen supplements will work as a preventive. I had a knee and foot that were hurting, while it isn't completely good yet. As I have only taken collagen for a few weeks. The pain is much less.
You can do your own research, because yes. The research about collagen isn't set in stone and it seems bs.
I've seen Ostarine have success in healing joint pain, and its basically the safest SARM out there. But it also mean you won't gain much muscle with it.

On the topic of flavours to protein powder with different flavours. I just buy what's the cheapest, and it just happens the brand has several flavours. I usually buy different bags of flavours and use up that each bag before I begin on a new one.
I do use protein powder in my homemade gainer shake. So it doesn't taste artificial and nasty, which they would by itself.

Way too much protein.

Anyway, I got my stack today with the SARM Ligandrol and the no-SARM Ibutamoren. I'm going goblin mode in a few weeks.

No HCG base?
Careful you don’t shut yourself down, both of those are somewhat suppressive compounds.

 

[Vingle]

Gainer shakes, SARMs, and MK-667? I heard MK-667 hunger can get pretty intense. Make sure you don't go Kyriakos Grizzly mode.

Eh, I've made and drunk the gainer shakes for a long time. As I always had a problem getting in calories from solid foods to not be slightly underweight. So I'm hoping I will gain more weight. Honestly don't care if some of that is fat, as I have no plans on not working out anyway.

No HCG base?
Careful you don’t shut yourself down, both of those are somewhat suppressive compounds.

I got Clomid too, but MK-677 isn't androgenic at all.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Eh, I've made and drunk the gainer shakes for a long time. As I always had a problem getting in calories from solid foods to not be slightly underweight. So I'm hoping I will gain more weight. Honestly don't care if some of that is fat, as I have no plans on not working out anyway.

I got Clomid too, but MK-677 isn't androgenic at all.

Mk isnt androgenic exactly, but it is mildly suppressive.

 

[Tren Shapiro]

Eh, I've made and drunk the gainer shakes for a long time. As I always had a problem getting in calories from solid foods to not be slightly underweight. So I'm hoping I will gain more weight. Honestly don't care if some of that is fat, as I have no plans on not working out anyway.

At the start of a bulk I have to force myself to eat more because I'm just not hungry. You quickly adapt and it's very easy to go overboard, especially if you are spiking your hunger hormone with forbidden goblin tinctures from the Orient.