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Should I go full retard and buy 120 ork boys from the Armageddon set or wait and hope for the rumored Boyz release to follow?
I'd be wary of an individual Ork Boyz kit being either another set of new sprues with more sculpt variety or at least one more sprue including heavy weapon and Nob options, similar to how the Leviathan Termagaunts were handled. I think it's better to wait on confirmation of this because the Armaggedon Boyz are surely going to be included in new starter sets and remain cheap anyway, so there's no hurry.

Also don't forget that you'd be getting sixty Grots.
 
From what I understood the books were way darker and more lore accurate than people expected, so the grifters ignored them and moved to the next targets.
Basically this. The retarded covers aren't representative of the actual tone of them. I'm not saying they're great, but they aren't the equivalent of 40k blues clues or whatever like the covers make them out to be.

Fuck, here you go. Yes it's still clearly a kids book, but the necrons are scary evil monsters wrecking shit, the space marines kinda save the day at one point, there's a jokaero that does jokaero things, the necrons are actually terrifying to the kids, and so on.

The best way to describe it would be some shit happening in 40k from the perspective of some kids.... who fortunately have a jokaero weaponsmith with them.
 

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15 hours into a N I N E T E E EN hour audiobook for Fall of Cadia (the new version, not read by that one retard). Holy shit bros its pretty bad. Is THIS the turning point for the setting? The cicatrix maledictum? What the fuck. This is probably the worst book I've read/listened to in a long time, and honestly Ive so far liked it less than the one with Creed's daughter that I read purely for spite. Its just a mess of a book. Apparently a demon prince can just tank 2 canonesses, literally an entire army, survive killboxes, kill a Black Templar champion, and whatever the fuck else WITH a null array (you know, anti-warp/chaos?) Active. What the fuck. This sucks.
 
Apparently a demon prince can just tank 2 canonesses, literally an entire army, survive killboxes, kill a Black Templar champion, and whatever the fuck else WITH a null array (you know, anti-warp/chaos?) Active. What the fuck. This sucks.
Isn't that always the case for 40k books?

The protagonist team of Good Guy Space Marines, numbering a few dozen, slaughters hundreds of Chaos Space Marines with ease, and wins the day. Apply the same logic for the protagonist of any of the other books.

That being said, any book where Chaos isn't getting their shit kicked in by the Imperium is a gay book written by a gay communist faggot.

Chaos can only win when they're fighting xenos filth.
 
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Attack of the Necron by Cavan scott

Im shocked how much I enjoyed this. There is a SERIOUS disconnect between how shitty the art style of this book is and the writing. At times it felt like vanilla 40k, just with less prolonged focus on the death. That doesn't stop people from getting blown up, vaporized, manhandled and entire plants being destroyed.


So basically we get a brief overview of the main characters before it goes pair shaped. Most of them are archologists or part of that group, going around on a hive world looking for ancient technology.


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POC child Zelia Lor's mom is the head researcher, she's got an ancient sight glass that talks and has information on anything its pointed at. She has a no guns rule that was relentlessly mocked, but I completely forgot about it till it was actually mentioned at the endpoint and everyone rightfully called her insane for it. She's basically a modern day iconoclast 100%. Surprisingly not insufferable.



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The mar's kid Mekki was just loaned out to mom I guess as a half assed tech priest. He's cool, but is basically walking exposition/fix it man



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And the third wheel is Talen, a kid from a guard family that deserted to join an underhive gang. He's the most 40k written character of the bunch and you wouldn't have to modify much to get him into a regular book. He joins up with the group later.



We don't get very far in setting things up before the Necrons show up to kill everybody. The book moves REALLY fast and keeps the pacing engaging. It's a mad dash to get to the spaceport and survive, we even see the imperial guard fail horribly and die in trying to stop the invasion. The token bully hive ganger casually gets shot dead and vaporized. It's great. The ultramarines have an extremely brief scene in this where they come down to save our hero's asses before loudly telling them to get fuck out of here.

Then the kids get separated from mom and BOOM WHOLE PLANET GETS BLOWN THE HELL UP. How's that for a kids book? Necrons even strafe the evacuatees and blow up a shit ton of ships. In sheer desperation the kids (and one mom friend adult) get in an escape pod and land on some random icehole planet.

Then they meet a Jokaero that stowed away.

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I love how much his POV briefly showcases his utter hatred and disgust with the main characters. He's a racist monkey and that shit is funny. This is the first time ive followed their perspective and I like that he's basically the excuse for why the kids are able to survive and thrive in 40k. What with his pocket dimension where he can pull sonic cannons out of his ass. The monkey briefly goes all predator and shoots the shit out of a forest while trying to blow up a necron. So that was pretty great.


We even get a little necron perspective and that was kinda hilarious. CHILDREN! I WAS BEATEN BY CHILREN! He didn't feel too nerfed surprisingly. One of them comes down by itself to kill everybody terminator style because they have an artifact carried by the token adult.


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(love how shitty the design is)

Turn's out this poor bastard is the reason the Necrons invaded because he found one of their crowns and hid it from everyone else, accidentally activating it. There's actually decent back and forth between him in the kids when they realize he's responsible. Feeling a great deal of remorse he manages to take out the Necron by heroic sacrifice after all the kids efforts fail. ( The kids tried to use holograms, remote communicators and a sonic mine to take it out. A real 40k man uses the combo of point blank sonic mine and an avalanche )
The finale has the kids get their distress call picked up by an inquisitor that looks like the phantom of the opera and then it cuts out.


It's solid man. It's not the greatest thing ever but I was entertained by seeing how they would do it and actually make a decent "lighthearted" 40k tale. It kinda feels like an old goosebumps book the way they handle horror and drama. There's not a whole lot cut in terms of the 40k vibe, it's just that a lot of the background misery and death is implied instead of directly shown, which is still pretty great. If there's one thing that gets really PG its the description of the warp. It's very very glossed over and simplified, but I did find it hilarious that it's worst effects are described as turning you into a puddle of goo. Alien racism is still on the menu though! there's a flashback of Talens IG father lovingly describing how every alien in the galaxy wants to kill humanity, so that was great. Although, I was really wondering how the hell a child was supposed to understand the terminology of basic 40k. They were really throwing the lore around at times. There's a little glossary in the back, but it only covers so much. Still a fun read.




Oh and have I mentioned the artwork is horrible? Lol There was a massively, hilarious disconnect between my mind and what was showed in its coloring book pics. Here's the most cringe.


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Tunnel snakes RULE


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This is self explanatory

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AND THE GREATEST COLORING BOOK OF THEM ALL


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(Yeah That's supposed to be an Orgyn.)


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15 hours into a N I N E T E E EN hour audiobook for Fall of Cadia (the new version, not read by that one retard). Holy shit bros its pretty bad. Is THIS the turning point for the setting? The cicatrix maledictum? What the fuck. This is probably the worst book I've read/listened to in a long time, and honestly Ive so far liked it less than the one with Creed's daughter that I read purely for spite. Its just a mess of a book. Apparently a demon prince can just tank 2 canonesses, literally an entire army, survive killboxes, kill a Black Templar champion, and whatever the fuck else WITH a null array (you know, anti-warp/chaos?) Active. What the fuck. This sucks.
>Galaxy changing event
>Pretty much nothing changes
>Gets forgotten about almost instantly
>Only shows up on maps now

Peak James workshop
 
Im shocked how much I enjoyed this. There is a SERIOUS disconnect between how shitty the art style of this book is and the writing. At times it felt like vanilla 40k, just with less prolonged focus on the death. That doesn't stop people from getting blown up, vaporized, manhandled and entire plants being destroyed.
See what I mean? This shit is absolutely still 40k, just clearly a kids book version done surprisingly well for what it is. It's just that the art is fucking awful.

It's not even a long read either, but the fucking grifter secondary faggots who threw tantrums about it never looked into it. Even the summary on the website if you know a little more than the most basic shit about 40k should clue you in that it's not some crappy kids book that doesn't resemble 40k.
On the hive world of Targian, Zelia Lor helps her mother search for ancient tech, digging up treasures of the past on the wind-blown plains. They are happy. They are safe. All that changes when the Necrons attack. Without warning, a host of robotic ships appear in the skies above Targian and rip the planet apart. Separated from her mother, Zelia must escape the doomed world, her only hope a scrambled transmission promising safety at a mysterious place known only as the Emperor’s Seat. Launched in an escape pod, she crashes on an icy wasteland far, far from home. But Zelia is not alone. She is joined by a rag-tag group of survivors – the street-tough juve Talen, gadget-obsessed Martian boy Mekki and super-intelligent alien-ape, Fleapit.

And then the next book after this has the same pile of kids running in terror from fucking genestealers of all things because fuck you this is 40k you escaped necrons to get buttfucked or torn to shreds by genestealers and ambulls. Then tau, then orks, then fucking nurglings, and back to necrons wanting to murder everything again.

"Here's Johnny!"
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These are going to be the most hardened people in the imperium by the time they're teenagers
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So yeah the art continues to be shit but at the same time it's easy enough for an 8-10 year old to get a visual understanding of wtf is going on, and then look at his dad's 40k minis and maybe gain some interest(which I'm sure was the entire point).

Now the AOS version of this shit?
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It's written by a different guy and I've got no fucking idea how close to anything it is, but apparently they bump into vampires, ghosts, skaven, and other bullshit.
 
I think I mentioned it a few pages ago but I think GW made a shit ton of them so most places should have spares
Was in FLGS yesterday, and they had a bunch of these. They were selling fast too. Surprised me.

He has Bolt Action, I suggested Konflikt 47, and he's going all in on the new Gundam tabletop later this year.
Maybe Stargrave/Frostgrave? I just like the minis.

Sure a sister described as beautiful in comparison to what?
I do think that the sisters over all would look how veterans of any war would look, I just think that it's fine to portray young sisters or ones who haven't seen a lot of combat as attractive or beautiful.
In some versions of the lore, didn't some guy have the sisters as his personal harem?

Ugly sisters I put down to primitive sculpts. And in recent times, wokeshit.

Hell the sister in Pariah Nexus was pretty attractive too but that could have been because of the limits of 3d animation preventing them from giving her more scars or something, I don't know.
No. It's funny seeing this brought up, because gaming is having the opposite issue. Ugly women in everything, and this is blamed on it being too difficult to make attractive women. Men are fine. Asian games manage it no problem. Not-leftie game devs can do it. It's only those on the prog side of the culture war that can't figure it out.

With how brutally graphic a lot of the books can be, I'm fine not having to read about certain topics. I dont need to read about rape to know that it happens, nor do I need to read about children being slaughtered. I can extrapolate without making my spaceman books uncomfortable.
There's some infamous american skit from a comedy show that I've heard about but never seen. A Bond/super villain convention, and then some child predator turns up and ruins it.

From what I understood the books were way darker and more lore accurate than people expected, so the grifters ignored them and moved to the next targets.
You can't really blame them though.
 
I am painting up some terrain. Its indoor spaceship so all metallics. I have Vallejo metal colour exhaust manifold, steel and dark aluminum to use. I also have a copper and chrome on hand but very unlikely to be used. Big ass bottles so should get some mileage.

The problem I have is, black wash. Whats the most cost effective black wash out there youd recommend? No way im buying a bunch of nuln oils.
 
The problem I have is, black wash. Whats the most cost effective black wash out there youd recommend? No way im buying a bunch of nuln oils.
You could get Monument Hobbies Glaze/Wash Medium if you want.

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For washes, start with the same 4 parts medium and 1 part paint, but then add an equal amount of water as medium to allow the mixture to flow across the surface of the model and settle in recesses for shading and filtering entire surfaces. Reducing the amount of water used will allow for more control when placing the paint in smaller areas, while increasing the thinning will reduce the overall intensity of the coloring.

You could also get the Army Painters dip washes
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Just use a paint brush to apply it or just dip and shake.

But if you wanted to apply by brush the glaze wash medium is probably your best bet

 
In some versions of the lore, didn't some guy have the sisters as his personal harem?
High Lord Goge Vandire during the Age of Apostasy. Twisted the Imperial religion to such a degree that he was trying to position himself as a divine authority who spoke for the Emperor. Used the Sisters, then "Daughters of The Emperor" as his personal army and implied harem. Older lore has them called "Brides" of the Emperor instead and explicitly states they were also his "companions".
So yeah. The Bitches were fuck-maids and jackboots for some delusional High Lord/Priest for a century or so.
 
Isn't that always the case for 40k books?

The protagonist team of Good Guy Space Marines, numbering a few dozen, slaughters hundreds of Chaos Space Marines with ease, and wins the day. Apply the same logic for the protagonist of any of the other books.

That being said, any book where Chaos isn't getting their shit kicked in by the Imperium is a gay book written by a gay communist faggot.

Chaos can only win when they're fighting xenos filth.
The one with more plot armor always wins, but it's overdone with Chaos as they are a self sabotaging faction, even when it wins.

shocked how much I enjoyed this. There is a SERIOUS disconnect between how shitty the art style of this book is and the writing. At times it felt like vanilla 40k, just with less prolonged focus on the death. That doesn't stop people from getting blown up, vaporized, manhandled and entire plants being destroyed.
Sounds like the Goonies with more horror. Sadly, the presence of the niggress means that the children will be fine, at least her.

Imaginative it ain't.

have an artifact carried by the token adult.
Was he blonde?
 
Isn't that always the case for 40k books?

The protagonist team of Good Guy Space Marines, numbering a few dozen, slaughters hundreds of Chaos Space Marines with ease, and wins the day. Apply the same logic for the protagonist of any of the other books.

That being said, any book where Chaos isn't getting their shit kicked in by the Imperium is a gay book written by a gay communist faggot.

Chaos can only win when they're fighting xenos filth.
I expect the protagonist of a book to win despite all odds. This book is clearly 50/50 chaos-imperium grudgematch with winners and losers on both sides. The demon prince feels like it takes the place of other chaos marines that could've shined, like a slaaneshi EC or the Alpha Legion spy. There are like 7 Imperium POVs and only like 3 chaos despite chaos POVs being half the book. The saboteur guy that pops up time to time is more interesting than a demon prince. THEN HE FUCKING DIES TO NOTHING AFTER THE NULL ARRAY GETS GOT. WE DONT EVEN SEE THE IRON WARRIORS FOR MORE THAN A FUCKING LINE AND THEYRE DOING ALL THE WORK. as per usual. Chaos is written so only the demon prince, the fortress psyker bitch, and a gay ass saboteur (that couldve been the Alpha Legion guy) that apprently has the power of persuasion but cant persuade a random italian-mob style boss guy. I hate these british fucks. Learn how to write, fuckheads.
>Galaxy changing event
>Pretty much nothing changes
>Gets forgotten about almost instantly
>Only shows up on maps now

Peak James workshop
Its funny because if they never wrote the book the actual event would've been much cooler and more mysterious. The Dawn of Fire, the first Watchers of the Throne, and to an extent the Dark Imperium trilogy all talk about the effects of the Cicatrix Maledictum and how fucked it was. Even in Devestation of Baal its the direct cause for Kawabunga the demon to finish materializing.
 
Its funny because if they never wrote the book the actual event would've been much cooler and more mysterious. The Dawn of Fire, the first Watchers of the Throne, and to an extent the Dark Imperium trilogy all talk about the effects of the Cicatrix Maledictum and how fucked it was. Even in Devestation of Baal its the direct cause for Kawabunga the demon to finish materializing.
Halo Reach took the often talked about but never fleshed out lore and did it justice, and that was just the game. The now non-canon book was well received at the time.
 
It's written by a different guy and I've got no fucking idea how close to anything it is, but apparently they bump into vampires, ghosts, skaven, and other bullshit.
They are notoriously lore inaccurate with things like a Skaven that dosn't worship the great horned rat and prefers working with humans rather than fellow rats.
 
After playing a couple of games of 11th, I'm liking alot of the changes. Terrain rules have been clarified alot and are definitely more versatile than before, plut there's alot of layouts so you're not stuck playing the same 8 setups. Melee feels really strong, but I'll have to get some more time trying out different armies to really judge it. New fight phase rules feel a bit wonky, but overall the phase changes I think are improved.
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