Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[Judge Dredd]

Yet in the same breath these retards will also wonder why many sequels were never made.

It depends what sequels you're talking about.

Publishers get strange ideas. Look at how often "single player games don't sell. We're only going to make multiplayer games." comes around, until something like Skyrim or Uncharted makes all the money and then suddenly single player games are back as if they never left.

There's also publishers sitting on IPs people like, but are afraid of making money. Goldeneye was stuck in copyright limbo for decades, there has never been a sequel (spiritual or actual) despite that game having a big following. I still don't know what happened to all those Boomer Shooters Romero crowdfunded.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Goldeneye was stuck in copyright limbo for decades, there has never been a sequel (spiritual or actual) despite that game having a big following.

What?

 

[Calandrino]

What you're forgetting is that to zoomers, anything before the Xbox 360 is seen as too primitive to go back to for more than a 5 minute distraction. It's an argument I've heard from Millennials about the PS1 and SNES, and while I want to dismiss it as dumb, it's how I feel about the Atari 2600.

Yeah they flatter themselves like that, then pour 300 hours into Vampire Survivors or gacha games or whatever. Actually they frustrate easily and won't touch anything without skinner box mechanics. And tbh as often as not boomers who grew up alongside the tech want everything to be a 2009 AAA PC game and have a condescending attitude towards anything else, whereas an Alpha kid can at least look at everything with fresh eyes and have a chance to see some value in it.

Atari 2600 was "we have arcade games at home / arcade games at home:". It's not like e.g. Pole Position from 1980 is this unplayable pixelblob. Arcade games, computer games, even other 2nd gen console games tended to be quite a bit better.

Horizon Chase

It's a 16 bit sprite racer translated into 3D and in the N64 era it would have been laughed out of the room for being a medieval throwback next to Wave Race and the like. So yeah it's great, 10/10, I'm glad it's been so well received. Always a pleasure to see plucky indies reverse every bit of video game progress of the past 30 years. Despite the forgiving physics they stuck to it being a skill-based actual game, as opposed to say Cruisn Blast which is practically mindless. My only objection is that every mode is doing laps against computer opponents, when the solo cross-country checkpoint-based OutRun format is objectively superior.

 

[DavidS877]

Atari 2600 was "we have arcade games at home / arcade games at home:". It's not like e.g. Pole Position from 1980 is this unplayable pixelblob. Arcade games, computer games, even other 2nd gen console games tended to be quite a bit better.

Not sure what you're trying to imply.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

You know whenever a classic style Resident Evil comes out and the same old tired complaints about tank controls are bad and guns make things not scary? Imagine that, but with a wrestling game.

Isn't the new AEW game supposed to play like the WWE/Def Jam
AKI games?

We might see this soon enough.

 

[Psyduck]

Isn't the new AEW game supposed to play like the WWE/Def Jam
AKI games?

We might see this soon enough.

Dont know shit about Wrestling, but i'll get that one if it means we can play some more Def Jam again

 

[CptnSnshn]

Isn't the new AEW game supposed to play like the WWE/Def Jam
AKI games?

We might see this soon enough.

Yeah but then you'd have to play an AEW game.

 

[X Prime]

These kinds of people were in like every gaming thread on Something Awful. The consooming there was off the charts. One guy was noteworthy for buying literally every single virtual console game on the Wii as they were released, and complained because the Wii's limited amount of storage (512mb) meant that he had filled it up long, long before the update where you could launch games from an SD card.

The only thing more common on SA than wasteful spending in the Games forums are the people who randomly bring up that the games would be better if they had gays in it.

 

[Judge Dredd]

What?
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I guess I took one too many stupid pills that day. I love Perfect Dark and don't know how I forgot about it.

It's a 16 bit sprite racer translated into 3D and in the N64 era it would have been laughed out of the room for being a medieval throwback next to Wave Race and the like. So yeah it's great, 10/10, I'm glad it's been so well received. Always a pleasure to see plucky indies reverse every bit of video game progress of the past 30 years.

-and your reaction is why we'll never see a return to good racing games. It's a reaction I see to basically every indie racing game, though they're usually more subtle about it.

It could be Horizon Chase is bad. I don't know. Not really my thing, but I'll take your word for it. What about GRIP? Or Gas Guzzlers Extreme? Or Wreckfest? There's always some excuse about why these games don't count. Instead, the racing community keeps supporting broken "sims" and AAA slop filled with loot boxes and micro transactions, and if the suckers start walking away, all EA has to do is name drop Most Wanted and they'll come running back.

It's a problem that plagued pixel art platformers a decade ago. Nostalgic gen-xers pined for a return to the glory days of the 8 and 16 bit era. Redefining shovelware like Bubsy and Aero The Acrobat as forgotten classics. When the market was flooded with such indie games, they wouldn't touch them unless they had Megaman, Mario, or some other nostalgia brand attached. Even Rom hacks were ignored as they're not official. All the while complaining about how no one makes these games any more.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

What you're forgetting is that to zoomers, anything before the Xbox 360 is seen as too primitive to go back to for more than a 5 minute distraction. It's an argument I've heard from Millennials about the PS1 and SNES, and while I want to dismiss it as dumb, it's how I feel about the Atari 2600.

it makes more sense to be that way to the 2600 than the SNES for sure though. An old atari would just play the same repetitive bullshit that you would see in arcades but worse. 90s gaming on the other hand, is the beginning of gaming as a genuine medium of entertainment and many of those games hold up incredibky well.

 

[Raging Capybara]

I don't understand why old fuckers think kids don't play retro shit.

So there's this dude Marcel Vos who makes weird Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 videos on youtube, he was streaming yesterday and I put it in the background. At some point the chat started to talk about school exams, some of them were 13 and 14. That's it, teens playing fucking RCT, a game older than them by some huge margin.

 

[Calandrino]

-and your reaction is why we'll never see a return to good racing games.

No that part was unironic, I bought all the DLC, I feel stupid for not getting this sooner, and the fact that a game like this is even financially viable gives me some hope for the future.

 

[TVB]

It's a problem that plagued pixel art platformers a decade ago. Nostalgic gen-xers pined for a return to the glory days of the 8 and 16 bit era. Redefining shovelware like Bubsy and Aero The Acrobat as forgotten classics. When the market was flooded with such indie games, they wouldn't touch them unless they had Megaman, Mario, or some other nostalgia brand attached. Even Rom hacks were ignored as they're not official. All the while complaining about how no one makes these games any more.

Gex rom hacks as well?

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

I guess I took one too many stupid pills that day. I love Perfect Dark and don't know how I forgot about it.

It's a problem that plagued pixel art platformers a decade ago. Nostalgic gen-xers pined for a return to the glory days of the 8 and 16 bit era. Redefining shovelware like Bubsy and Aero The Acrobat as forgotten classics.

I blame videogamedunkey and his forced Bubsy meme a few years ago for that.

Timesplitters did everything Goldeneye tried to do but better and made the "drift-aim" style of FPS feel way better to use.
Feels like all the hype around goldeneye64 coincided with emulators becoming mainstream.

 

[TVB]

Goldeneye64 is an overrated POS that controls like shit and aged somewhat poorly compared to other N64 games like Rogue Squadron. I can understand the nostalgia around N64 games, but the contemporary craze around it only really began once emulators became mainstream. As none of those speedrunners are ever using an N64 controller. Timesplitters did everything Goldeneye tried to do but better and made the "drift-aim" control scheme feel way better to use.

Goldeneye 64 was pretty much praised by nostalgiatards or Gen-Xers, but they don't realize that the control scheme for a FPS game, especially for N64, is absolute dogshit. But yes, Timespitters was based.

 

[Judge Dredd]

No that part was unironic, I bought all the DLC, I feel stupid for not getting this sooner, and the fact that a game like this is even financially viable gives me some hope for the future.

Between brain farts last time, and me autistically seeing sarcasm where there is none, it's not been my week this thread.

In my defense however, I see that kind of argument without the sarcasm, though usually they are more vague since they don't want to admit that the lack of AAA graphics and licenced cars is a problem.

Goldeneye 64 was pretty much praised by nostalgiatards or Gen-Xers, but they don't realize that the control scheme for a FPS game, especially for N64, is absolute dogshit.

Goldeneye is ...fine. I stand by the argument that it aged poorly, especially on real hardware. I might have said this before, but to me the real problem with Goldeneye is that it's no longer popular. Sounds silly, but a large part of goldeneye was the myths around it. Swapping stories about the weird secrets people found like how to open the doors on Silo, or a friend of a friend that claims he knows a guy who got to the secret island on dam. These days all that has been datamined.

Then there's the multiplayer. People aren't going around each others house for 4 player games of Goldeneye, Westlemania 2000, and Mario Kart.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

they don't realize that the control scheme for a FPS game, especially for N64, is absolute dogshit.

What FPS had a better control scheme on the N64?

Genuinely asking because Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were the only ones I ever kept playing throughout the years. I think they work...only for the N64. But I may be biased just based on how much I've played them.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

People aren't going around each others house for 4 player games of Goldeneye, Westlemania 2000, and Mario Kart.

That's still happening and it's fun! With the exception of wrestlemania.

 

[Asian tech support]

That's still happening and it's fun! With the exception of wrestlemania.

Not Goldeneye but the gang still gets together for Nightfire every now and then.

 

[Calandrino]

In my defense however, I see that kind of argument without the sarcasm, though usually they are more vague since they don't want to admit that the lack of AAA graphics and licenced cars is a problem.

The graphics are part of what kept me away from it. It looks better in motion but the environments are plainer than Virtua Racing. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground between gearhead sim games and purely casual party "arcade" games, with mostly futuristic or combat racers filling in the gap. Even Horizon Chase started as a smart phone game I think so I wasn't expecting much from it.

It's got to be the most video gamey 3D racer I've ever played though. I honestly don't think it would have gone over well circa 5th gen.

For irl racing fans, the DLC features Brazilian racing superstar SENNA (I do not know who Senna is, seems to be a kind of laxative?)

I stand by the argument that it aged poorly, especially on real hardware.

^every N64 game