Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Don Yagon]

So do you remember TLOU2?

It all started with Hotline Miami 2 and its nuke ending. Still a stylish game but the worst people took the worst message from it. Same with Wheatley in Portal 2, endearing character on his own, poster boy for millenial writing in videogames if you look at bigger picture.
Gamergate started with Penny Arcade dickwolves comic btw.

 

[Various Shades of Brown]

I think my interest waned near-entirely upon seeing Blue's design.

He's a fucking Steven Universe gem. These had to be guest designs, surely? Outside of maybe Aqua, Yellow and Orange, they all remind me of that show. I know most of the Chapter 1 character designs were from an artist on Tumblr, but this is getting silly.

 

[TyrasGuard]

Chapter 2 and 3 having creepy secret content was super cool, but have you heard of japan and idol culture?

I don't even know why the setting was Japanese at all. What's funny is that there is a character that has a katana in the game and is Carol, and she is nowhere to be seen in the chapter.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

I think the reason that Aqua and Seth feel fine as characters is because they genuinely feel like they could've been one of the fallen humans from Undertale (You know, like their fucking character concepts are supposed to represent?) They both look kids.
Then there's the fucking circus freakshow of Green, who is a weird looking mute freak, Blue, the gay blugger, Sheriff Woody (Gay Retard Ver), and a fucking mouse.
It says a lot when among the other 4, Orange is the least offensive, and she exists for practically 5 minutes in total. (And I repeat, is a fucking mouse.)

 

[starborn427614]

I think my interest waned near-entirely upon seeing Blue's design.
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He's a fucking Steven Universe gem. These had to be guest designs, surely? Outside of maybe Aqua, Yellow and Orange, they all remind me of that show. I know most of the Chapter 1 character designs were from an artist on Tumblr, but this is getting silly.

It's funny you bring up SU, because every time Flowery was on screen I couldn't help but think of Yellow Diamond. It's mostly the hair, but still.

 

[harmy.kook]

THAT'S the weirdest thing about Suselle to me, I don't even like Noelle, but she can be a surprisingly interesting and crazy character when it's just her or with Kris, but anytime Susie's on screen, the only lines we ever hear from her are her reacting to her and Kris being weird and way better friends than her, or this
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Well if her speech in the Weird Route is anything, it's actually just a LARP in the "good" route

 

[Just Another Rando]

I think my interest waned near-entirely upon seeing Blue's design.
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He's a fucking Steven Universe gem. These had to be guest designs, surely? Outside of maybe Aqua, Yellow and Orange, they all remind me of that show. I know most of the Chapter 1 character designs were from an artist on Tumblr, but this is getting silly.

 

[X Prime]

Oh no it's a great game, satisfying ending too, just the locals might not appreciate your heroics and that may have angered me greatly.

Oh okay, I was concerned there was a cuck subplot. I was shocked at one point that Shovel Knight by the same devs didn't try that stunt.

 

[Star Classic]

I think my interest waned near-entirely upon seeing Blue's design.
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He's a fucking Steven Universe gem. These had to be guest designs, surely? Outside of maybe Aqua, Yellow and Orange, they all remind me of that show. I know most of the Chapter 1 character designs were from an artist on Tumblr, but this is getting silly.

Razzle dazzle text editor you're now a woman.

 

[Cave Fisher]

The Knight feels a lot less threatening of an antagonist if after the big chapter that's all about how the dark worlds are no longer a cutesy fun fantasy adventure, the chapter regresses into a cutesy unfun fantasy adventure where the knight just shows up, kidnaps Asgore, and smacks away Flowery, which has no effect to me because that's just a repeat of what it did 2 chapters ago. Based on the pacing of the chapters, there's WAY too much lore on the game's plate to satisfiably cover by the time we make it to chatper 7, and that includes the motives, abilities, and origins of the game's MAIN ANTAGONIST.
(Speaking of Flowery, I thought for sure some of the lines in the beginning implied he and Ralsei had a past, but if they only just met shortly before Kris and Susie met him, then I don't know HOW he could have made as bad as an impression that Ralsei's willing to trample over the puzzles and step over spikes just so Susie isn't alone with him compared to characters like Queen and Tenna.)

 

[Super Guido]

I think my interest waned near-entirely upon seeing Blue's design.
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He's a fucking Steven Universe gem. These had to be guest designs, surely? Outside of maybe Aqua, Yellow and Orange, they all remind me of that show. I know most of the Chapter 1 character designs were from an artist on Tumblr, but this is getting silly.

Several of the guest artists have been trannies, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Splendidland was one of the ones who worked on Chapter 2 enemies.

 

[Nameless One]

Wait how is our fren Vargskelethor Joel taking things? Uh oh ....

Splendidland

The artist did a great job if that's true I really enjoyed the Ch2 enemy designs compared to 3 and 4.

 

[Every One Procedural]

I think my interest waned near-entirely upon seeing Blue's design.
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He's a fucking Steven Universe gem. These had to be guest designs, surely? Outside of maybe Aqua, Yellow and Orange, they all remind me of that show. I know most of the Chapter 1 character designs were from an artist on Tumblr, but this is getting silly.

Yeah, was Nelnal busy or something?

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

The Knight feels a lot less threatening of an antagonist if after the big chapter that's all about how the dark worlds are no longer a cutesy fun fantasy adventure, the chapter regresses into a cutesy unfun fantasy adventure where the knight just shows up, kidnaps Asgore, and smacks away Flowery, which has no effect to me because that's just a repeat of what it did 2 chapters ago. Based on the pacing of the chapters, there's WAY too much lore on the game's plate to satisfiably cover by the time we make it to chatper 7, and that includes the motives, abilities, and origins of the game's MAIN ANTAGONIST.
(Speaking of Flowery, I thought for sure some of the lines in the beginning implied he and Ralsei had a past, but if they only just met shortly before Kris and Susie met him, then I don't know HOW he could have made as bad as an impression that Ralsei's willing to trample over the puzzles and step over spikes just so Susie isn't alone with him compared to characters like Queen and Tenna.)

Hey, the Knight didn't just smack away Flowery, The Roaring Fraud waited for the other 6 flowers to turn back into flowers to take away Flowery's main fight gimmick before struggling to deal with base Flowery for a moment.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Flowery and Ralsei have some weird fuckin' link at this point, considering that Flowery is a Golden Flower and Ralsei is... well, the jury's out, but I get the feeling he's a flower too (they call Flowers neither Darkners or Lightners). Maybe Flowey from post the end of Undertale.
He's a flower, he's a Prince, and he was left in the dark.
He is quite literally a Prince from the Dark. There's no real reason for him to have a bitchfit about Flowery otherwise.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

It's not just doe.
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The big reveal at the end is apparently Susie bullied Kris because she thought he and Noelle were dating and was jealous of it, wanting Noelle all to herself. All because she was nice to her once and gave her a pencil. Straight up character assassination. I could feel a bit of schadenfreude that krusiefags now feel what I felt every time Noelle drools over the dino, but after all we're in the same boat with water that keeps leaking in.

What do noelle fans have to be upset about, is this update not literally all they wanted?

 

[Don Yagon]

Wait how is our fren Vargskelethor Joel taking things? Uh oh ....

He cheered on suselle in chapter 2 scream, I don't trust his opinion on any of the quirky RPGs. Go back to playing random shit off shareware disks.

What do noelle fans have to be upset about over this update is this not literally all they wanted

Speak for yourself, I wanted at least SOME reconcilation of her and Kris's feelings. Weird route scene is just too little, too late.

 

[Cun75p4rkl35]

Well if her speech in the Weird Route is anything, it's actually just a LARP in the "good" route

Noelle is limerent towards Susie because Susie scares her and she's using Susie as a replacement for her dead sister

 

[Nameless One]

What do noelle fans have to be upset about over this update is this not literally all they wanted

No. It's not anything anyone wanted if you ever payed attention to retarded fanbases. Noelle and Susie fans whom are likely lebos themselves wanted more subtlety. If you like any characters and ship them you'd want good writing with it. This is just plain retarded fetishism that consumes the plot. This is the jump the shark moment.

 

[Super Guido]

Wait how is our fren Vargskelethor Joel taking things? Uh oh ....


The artist did a great job if that's true I really enjoyed the Ch2 enemy designs compared to 3 and 4.

I did like the Werewires, I'll admit.

 

[MisterListerTheBlister]

At the moment I'm not gonna read this thread since I don't want any Snowgrave route spoilers to see if maybe there's some gold nuggets in this pile of shit.
But god fucking damn it, Toby.