Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

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Source? That sounds hilarious.
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From Undertale's book.
 
Another thing that people always seem to get confused by is the Delta Rune itself.
For some reason they think that it's just the angel and the three heroes.
But I have another theory.
The Deltarune does show the Angel and the three heroes, but I don't think Kris is meant to be a hero.
I think the SOUL is the angel, but Noelle and Kris are supposed to be its wings that it uses to fly free of the world.
-THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL
FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE.

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The word "Delta" itself is the greek letter meaning "Change" or "Difference" too, adding yet more fuel to the theory that it's a fucked up and altered timeline.

As for who the original three heroes were meant to be, that's still up in the air as I try to tap into my schizoic fever dream interpreter
 
>Susie is a self-insert mary sue warping reality making everyone love her
>Kris started off with a crush on Noelle but now it's shifted to Susie
>by trying to wingman Kris for her we're also playing into that
>not only that but by controlling Kris and picking Susie we the player are being warped into loving her


K-KrusieBros I don't feel so good...
 
I feel like I'm going to need to go through another playthrough of the game just to jot down every single time that Susie takes away Kris and the Player's agency and does otherwise strange things.
The biggest evidence obviously being Snowgrave, where you get to TOTALLY fuck up her dumbass little self-insert fic the moment she's forced to do something else.
Another thing I just remembered is Dess' guitar, which Noelle for some reason is comfortable with letting Susie, a girl she has known for about 2 days by that point play. But Susie can't play the guitar. At all.
And yet during Lightners Live, Kris was front and center playing guitar and is noted to be fairly good with the piano already.
So in the original timeline, that scene was probably Kris actually playing Dess' guitar WELL for Noelle. (You can use the Shadow Crystal around this point showing Noelle whispering in Kris' ear).
Tricky Tony, what the FUCK are you doing?
 
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And if you take the fact that the prophecy is meant to exist as 'established rules' that Susie is twisting to work in her favour?
Well it looks bad on Evil Barney the Dinosaur.
Even her battle theme feels wrong, the more you think about it. "Vs. Susie"
Imagine it all loops back to kino and the final boss theme is just "Vs. Dragon".
Might as well do a bit of adding on to the idea. If Evil Susie does turn out to be real somewhat, I can imagine Susie stealing away Ralsei and Noelle to make her own party after ditching Kris.

It gave me a thought, specifically about Catti and by extension Jockington. They are the few non-important/non-undertale characters with a talk sprite. And since we know that Catti doesn't like Susie, further elaborated on during the festival, what if they somehow end up joining us to face off against her?
 
Personally I think Susie is a little too retarded to be some kind of mastermind that intentionally vandalized the Prophecy from the get-go.
I don't think she's working alone. More she's part of the "experiment" of Deltarune. I can't really call it malevolence on her part because she's retarded, but given her actions in Chapter 5, I'm feeling less generous to her.
Also, don't forget that she keeps having "Ideas" that allow her to instantly win battles that would otherwise have been impossible, which to me almost feels like somebody meta-gaming a strategy.
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Susie and Gaster.
 
I don't think she's working alone. More she's part of the "experiment" of Deltarune. I can't really call it malevolence on her part because she's retarded, but given her actions in Chapter 5, I'm feeling less generous to her.
Also, don't forget that she keeps having "Ideas" that allow her to instantly win battles that would otherwise have been impossible, which to me almost feels like somebody meta-gaming a strategy.
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Susie and Gaster.
Felt like a creative exercise would be entertaining.
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Gaster is essentially the big brother that gives his younger brother an unplugged controller.
Unplugged controller?
Funny you should bring that up, you just reminded me of the scene in Ch. 3 where Susie can unplug Kris' controller and that immediately erases the game hero who's broken free of his boundaries because he didn't commit.
Yet more proof that Susie isn't all that she seems.
Yet more fuel for the inferno of jealousy.
 
I finished the Weird Route chapter 5. As a professional gamer, I can quite clearly see where this is going,...

>(YOU) and Noelle start walking into the lake
>As you go further you spam the "proceed" command
>As you reach the white screen, the terminal shows up
>Insert Chapter 7 side B
>Somewhere in the future, when all 7 chapter will come out, there will be a physical release of the game (or ARG) where there will be the special chapter 7 CD with side B
>Insert Chapter 7 side B into you CD drive if you somehow have it
>You boot into Chapter 7 with Noelle
>Never use the piece of bread that Sans gave you to leave the bread crumbs
>Have Noelle use the bread instead
>(YOU) collect back all the crumbs
>Because (YOU) never set your own location, the games data for this trail is empty. When (YOU) use the corrupted crumbs from Noelle, the game sends him back to default location (0,0)
>It's a glitched, monochrome version of the map
>From there, walk out of bounds to get straight towards the ending


<Wait... Isn't it... Just the Normal route ending? Was the Weird route... Made just so you can speedrun the game faster?...
^Yes
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