Underhated TV finales - What ending you were the only one dissapointed at?

[Captain Syrup]

The Battlestar Galactica reboot was basically the last gasp of prestige sci-fi before networks realized people would watch anything and stopped pretending to care. Everyone likes to blame the writers’ strike for the death of smart serialized TV, but BSG kind of proves it was already dying of natural causes.

The ending is divisive. The religious twist was weird. Personally, I didn’t mind it. By that point, the show had been riding the mystery-box train for so long that literally any conclusion that didn’t end in incoherence felt like a win. The Cylons were always a problem, though. (Razor tried to retcon their nonsense.)

Then came Caprica. Ron Moore’s name is on it, but he was already gone. Let’s go back in time and answer all the questions nobody asked! Like, what if you got to see the bureaucratic backroom drama of a society that’s going to be glassed in ten years?

The pitch was “Dallas in space." The show splits focus between like, six families, and shocker: four of them are boring. The Cylons are now literally children, the humans are cartoonishly evil...

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It’s giving Portal Prelude fan game energy where the gag is “what if the scientists were the real autistic robots?”

.. and tying the Adama family directly to the creation of the Cylons is designed to make the BSG universe feel smaller and dumber.

The finale is a disaster. So they kill off who you thought was young Bill Adama, only to say “oh no wait...that was his brother also named Bill Adama.” just absolute Henry James Olsen-type brain worms.

The villain from the pilot TV movie (who, by the way, is like if Brett Cooper got radicalized by Trad West memes) decides humanity isn’t vibing hard enough with her galaxy-brain monotheism. Her solution is to peace out into space and go full missionary on the Cylons. And the Cylons are somehow like, "preach!” and make a human their god-empress.

 

[The greater a'tuin]

I liked the idea you do "see his death" from his own POV. He gets double tapped from behind, he dies before his brain even registers the sound of the bullet, the black void is his eternal damnation from his action. It makes the final moments of the show absolutely horrific.

This sounds nice, but Many Saints confirmed Hell is real for Sopranos-verse and Chrissy is in there.

We don't know if it was shot off per say, but it was specifically stated that he did get shot in the dick. Semantics, I know, but the difference between "Yea he got shot in the dick, but a doctor fixed it and he's fine now" and "Yea she shot his dick off and now he doesn't have a dick" is pretty huge.

It might've been insurance for no revival where Joe romances a guard to escape prison or some corny shit. But it's only the cherry atop his underwhelming downfall. After years of absurd plot armor, there is no clever build up to his web of lies finally collapsing. Random reddit hoe just holds him at gunpoint, tells him he is an entitled white (Jewish) male, then it speed-runs his trial in like 5 minutes robbing us of hearing his monologue reaction to finally going down, penalizes Joe for killing his wife in valid self-defense when she nearly stabbed his throat out, and finally in the last 30 seconds tacks on some "society is the real villain!!" cope.

The live action Animal Farm redo ends stupidly.

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The limousine liberals just couldn't help their damn selves.

Napoleon losing would be fine if it didn't clumsily off-screen his downfall with 5 minutes on the clock.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

All of my Trekkie friends remind me that Deep Space 9 (never really watched it, like 5 episodes) got ruined because a blue haired Jew got upset that Gul Dukat was liked because other writers wrote him well. The entire ending is awful because Dukat acts out of character and a black man goes out for cigarettes.

 

[Zorak Prison Pod]

All of my Trekkie friends remind me that Deep Space 9 (never really watched it, like 5 episodes) got ruined because a blue haired Jew got upset that Gul Dukat was liked because other writers wrote him well. The entire ending is awful because Dukat acts out of character and a black man goes out for cigarettes.

Move Along Home had a more clever, meaningful, and entergaining climax than "Sisko shoves Dukat like a cat pushing a vase off a shelf."

 

[starborn427614]

I think their main issue was that they obviously had no idea how to end the series and were making things up as they went along.

Fans often blame a lack of time or episodes, but this clearly wasn't the case. If there's one thing they had, it was time. The fourth and final season had a lot of filler that went nowhere and featured by far the weakest villain in the series, who at best should've been a lackey to a bigger one. While Season 3's ending was great; it's obvious they had already spent their best ideas. They should've planned things better.

IIRC the showrunner wasn't expecting to get a fourth season, so it sort of caught them on the hop. Still doesn't explain the baffling decisions made during the finale.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Not satisfied with 85 hours of wildly uneven television ranging from Emmy-worthy to deleted Halo cutscenes, Caprica was followed by Blood & Chrome, which started life as a webisode awkwardly split into ten-minute chunks. then stitched into a pilot for a full series, which SyFy promptly looked at and went, “Nah we’re good.”

The premise: The First Cylon War, something fans actually wanted to see. (Because Moore and Eick were aggressively disinterested in the original BSG and ditched any resemblance to it after the pilot.) So when they finally greenlit Blood and Chrome, it was a monkey’s paw wish: you get the war, but it’s been sandblasted of any character work.

Instead of the actor from Razor who at least was trying to act like Edward James Olmos (painfully trying), we get a washed-up NPC from Skins. He plays Adama as this cocky, whiny flyboy. Basically Starbuck if she had a dick, and with none of her good qualities.

They saved money by not building sets. Instead, they pasted everyone in front of "high-res" renders of Galactica and used lens flares to hide the fact that everything looked like PS3 cutscenes. Hey remember when Babylon 5 got that straight-to-DVD continuation, and it looked like they shot all the actors in different tax shelters and then edited it on a toaster?

The Galactica porn looks pretty. That’s one compliment.

It's packed with continuity errors that you might forgive that is if the rookie colonial reservists were at least fun to watch, but they’re just grating. What really bugs me though is how the show sidesteps how the 12 colonies won the war but then somehow lost the peace. There’s this whole moral gray zone between humans and Cylons and both sides commit atrocities. Neither was really “worthy of survival,” to borrow Adama’s words. Hence humans and Cylons eventually merging into one species. It seemed like fans wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

All of my Trekkie friends remind me that Deep Space 9 (never really watched it, like 5 episodes) got ruined because a blue haired Jew got upset that Gul Dukat was liked because other writers wrote him well. The entire ending is awful because Dukat acts out of character and a black man goes out for cigarettes.

Makes sense considering the old "Bajorans are meant to be Jews" take.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Makes sense considering the old "Bajorans are meant to be Jews" take.

Doesn’t Star Trek have like 8 Jew stand-ins? The Ferengi are the most antisemitic, but also the most likeable from what I’ve seen.

My knowledge of a lot of DS9 comes from Dukat memes, but yeah his reign of terror was mild. They have an entire planet with billions of people and there are barely millions dead after a few decades?

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Doesn’t Star Trek have like 8 Jew stand-ins? The Ferengi are the most antisemitic, but also the most likeable from what I’ve seen.

The real Star Trek is the Jews we met along the way...

 

[Captain Syrup]

barely millions dead

Ferengi are the most antisemitic, but also the most likeable from what I’ve seen

So Gene Roddenberry decided Star Trek needed a new alien species: A bunch of gold-obsessed goblins with big noses and even bigger cocks who were constantly trying to sell women into sex slavery. Like, canonically. His co-writers quietly removed that part about the genitals. It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

I know it sounds like a joke, like I’m doing a bit, but you can just read it on the wiki.

 

[The Nothingness]

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So Gene Roddenberry decided Star Trek needed a new alien species: A bunch of gold-obsessed goblins with big noses and even bigger cocks who were constantly trying to sell women into sex slavery. Like, canonically. His co-writers quietly removed that part about the genitals. It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

I know it sounds like a joke, like I’m doing a bit, but you can just read it on the wiki.

And a lot of actors who played Ferengi happened to be Jewish

 

[The greater a'tuin]

So Gene Roddenberry decided Star Trek needed a new alien species: A bunch of gold-obsessed goblins with big noses and even bigger cocks who were constantly trying to sell women into sex slavery. Like, canonically. His co-writers quietly removed that part about the genitals. It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

This makes it all the funnier when Star Trek is touted as an ancient keystone of progressive propaganda. You tell me with a straight face any modern wokeshart would have written this scene.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

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So Gene Roddenberry decided Star Trek needed a new alien species: A bunch of gold-obsessed goblins with big noses and even bigger cocks who were constantly trying to sell women into sex slavery. Like, canonically. His co-writers quietly removed that part about the genitals. It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

I know it sounds like a joke, like I’m doing a bit, but you can just read it on the wiki.

From what I’ve been told and the few episodes I’ve seen, the Bajorans did terrorist shit and false flags during the occupation. The amount of deaths was 10 million over 50 years, they seriously sucked at genocide. It’s a planet of billions (I checked this the genocide shit) and the occupation is 200,000 deaths per year. Seriously, the blue haired Jew (he was actually blue haired, I shit you not) did not understand math nor the logistics of scaling the Holocaust to a planet.

The Ferengi are the cool banker Jews as I understand it. They are unironically the “With Jews you win” Jews and the Bajoran workers are Israeli fanatics planning false flags.

 

[General Patton]

Oz got mentioned, and as much as I love the show, I agree. But moreso because the whole buildup to Cyril being executed in the final season. TBH, they should have killed him off the first time instead of dragging it on. In my opinion it would have had a bigger emotional impact.

 

[LazyLizard]

This makes it all the funnier when Star Trek is touted as an ancient keystone of progressive propaganda. You tell me with a straight face any modern wokeshart would have written this scene.

i've never watched star trek so i don't know the lore but why the fuck is Abe Lincoln there? i thought it was a space show not a time travel show?

 

[Captain Syrup]

Bajorans did terrorist shit and false flags

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Yeah ok, I've seen the /trek/ memes too, but holy shit, anon, you've retrofitted them with Trump-era terms. DS9 aired in pre-9/11. "False flag” and “psyop” weren’t in the vocabulary like you're implying. Bajorans are straight-up Viet Cong, barely competent and stealing leftovers like raccoons.

If you’d said Vulcans were ZOG than maybe I’d go with you on that. They’ve got receipts for pulling ceasefire bait-and-switches and staging attacks around their own sacred rocks just to make Andorians look like violent apes.

i've never watched star trek so i don't know the lore but why the fuck is Abe Lincoln there? i thought it was a space show not a time travel show?

This is the episode people always bring up as the one where Star Trek shits its pants in public.

An alien civilization throws together a "who’s who" of historical figures from both the Federation and its enemies and says, “Fight to see whose values are best.” The Federation side gets Surak, father of Vulcan logic, and Abraham Lincoln, a great leader from Earth history. (It's like how Civ V lets Teddy Roosevelt run a nuclear-capable future-U.S.). On the other side you’ve got Colonel Green, a war criminal from World War III, and Kahless, the Klingon Emperor. They just toss all these guys on a planet with no weapons.

Naturally, Surak tries to do pacifism and gets immediately domed. Kirk only cares because Abe Lincoln was his childhood hero.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

@Captain Syrup

False flag has been around since the rules of war were written down. I don’t know how retarded you are that you see false flag and equate it to Trump. The Bajorans did terrorist shit. False flag and ops designed around demoralization are in that bag of tricks.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Bajorans did terrorist shit. False flag and ops designed around demoralization are in that bag of tricks.

No, the Bajorans on the show didn’t stage any false flag attacks. They didn’t have the resources, the governmental backing, or frankly the need.

Also, no one’s seriously arguing they were morally superior saints. The point, made rather clearly by the show, is that by the end, both the Bajorans and the Cardassians realized they’d learned a few things from each other and, eventually, found some common ground.

 

[God of Nothing]

Oz got mentioned, and as much as I love the show, I agree. But moreso because the whole buildup to Cyril being executed in the final season. TBH, they should have killed him off the first time instead of dragging it on. In my opinion it would have had a bigger emotional impact.

the show died with adebisi

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

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No, the Bajorans on the show didn’t stage any false flag attacks. They didn’t have the resources, the governmental backing, or frankly the need.

Also, no one’s seriously arguing they were morally superior saints. The point, made rather clearly by the show, is that by the end, both the Bajorans and the Cardassians realized they’d learned a few things from each other and, eventually, found some common ground.

One of my favorite parts about the underwhelming DS9 ending is how everything ended with the Bajorans and Cardassians relations, and the Cardassians in general.. Also the Romulans too/especially. (basically what TNG did with the Klingons) It ended with the Alpha and Beta Quads basically on the verge of super peace. And it did it naturally. A huge existential war against an enemy like the Dominion is probably the only thing that could have collapsed the state of things and lead all 3 major powers to relative peace. It was one hell of an awesome experience seeing all three sides fight and work together.. (scary as hell too.. for any enemies.. imagine someone without near insta clone army capabilities.. all three complement each other so well too. Feds= brains/tech, Klingons = manpower and force, Romulans = cunning, spy-shit and dirty work) It's what pisses me off so much about the new Trek series.. Took giant shits over all of that and any kind of hopeful or idealistic future.