The lost boys problem - Social Media ain't for kids

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AF and similar far-right overly online bullshit is to retarded white boys what tumblr is to retarded white girls
 
A lot of people aren't gonna want to hear this, but I also think a big part of the appeal for incel types of these grifters and orgs that promote hyper-conservative, patriarchal beliefs is they think it'll get them a fuckmommy who won't be able to leave and will be required to submit to their every demand. Unfortunately for them (and fortunately for everyone else), by nature these circlejerks tend to end up as massive sausage parties since most women don't want to hang around shitty dudes that think they're subhuman (and the few that do are either grifters, violently insane, or both).

That said I know there are a few groypers that have managed to ensnare a bangmaid, with as horrific of results as you'd expected. There's a tradthot discussed on lolcow farms who married a groyper she met on telegram who ended up abusing, raping, forcefully impregnating, and then threatening to kill her and the baby. She almost left him (and even other tradthots encouraged her to GTFO), but unfortunately ended up going back to him b/c muh horrible single mother upbringings. I think everyone on girlfarms is expecting for her and her daughter to end up as family annihilation victims some day.
 
yes this is true but on the other hand, women do in fact have agency and brains and at some point you can't save her she donwanna be saved.
 
there are no adult males in these boys' lives.
This is one thing that was common when I spoke with groypers. Their fathers were around but were at work all the time or disengaged. I'd wager some let their wives run the family as it's easier. A lot of these "lost boys" were raised to appease women which causes other boys and girls their age not treat them like boys. This snowballs into adulthood.
I have written about this in the tranny sideshows thread.

lots of these kids have fathers, they've probably been told many times to clean their rooms and wash their penis by a close family member but they are internet addicted, only the internet people register as important, they probably tell their dads to suck a dick and go back to consooming manosphere tik toks
I was around groypers for about two years and this is inaccurate. It's not a "fuck you dad" mentality that created their situation and worldview. They were social rejects in school and looked for social interaction elsewhere. The issue with them is they were never properly socialized and, the few who spoke of their upbringing, their parents and teachers didn't care or put effort into helping them or being a role model. Overly religious parents were also an issue due to them raising(isolating) their children just for their small religious community. That may work if the entirety of Salt Lake City is one religion and culture and you don't leave the area but it completely falls apart when it's a couple hundred in a city of 50,000.
Pursuing a discipline and staying out of social media would be benefitial. The youth has lost its capacity for delaying gratification and seeking long term rewards over short term gratification because they are raised in a culture and interacting with technology designed like that. China might be onto something restricting kid's internet access and gaming time, not sure how succesful they are at enforcing those things though, usually thats the kinda measure that should come from the household.
They are obsessed with self improvement and self control which is partly why so many LARP as catholics and orthodox. The internet addiction is a symptom of what I mentioned above, not a cause.

I think people are mistaking the effects as causes and their dehumanization/demonization of them creates a confirmation bias which encourages the least charitable analysis. I also think people who are recently obsessed with Christianity, particularly Catholicism and Orthodoxy, refuse to be critical of the cultures in Catholic(and others) parishes that lead to these issues.
 
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yeah I am so feminist Andrea Dworkin calls me from Heaven and tells me I'm going too hard buuuuuut

this issue is caused by no mens and by young men being socialized entirely by women who don't like mens
 
There's a tradthot discussed on lolcow farms who married a groyper she met on telegram who ended up abusing, raping, forcefully impregnating, and then threatening to kill her and the baby. She almost left him (and even other tradthots encouraged her to GTFO), but unfortunately ended up going back to him b/c muh horrible single mother upbringings. I think everyone on girlfarms is expecting for her and her daughter to end up as family annihilation victims some day.
can you provide or link any info on this?
 
I think regardless of upbringing, dudes that gravitate towards hyper-conservative patriarchal beliefs view women not as equal people but as mysterious creatures controlled solely by instinct, unlike the oh-so logical men who deserve authority simply for being men. Which is also why they can't get laid, because most women understandably don't want to touch guys like that with a 20 ft pole.

Recognizing that women are, in fact, people and not really much different from men is important to avoiding falling into circlejerks like AF and Tate's fanclub.
can you provide or link any info on this?
current tradthot thread on girlfarms. Comfysarah/Sarah Doe is the woman I'm talking about. Previous tradthot threads have more screencaps, including her admitting her husband is abusive and threatened to kill her and the baby.
 
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Real world exposure to common people’s stances on political issues, and then the proper education (formal or no) to review those views for yourself should do wonders. AF is fueled by this shadowy kill or be killed vision of society where some conspiracy somewhere is set to destroy them, but the truth is Dale the old democrat down the road or some Hispanic people you go to school with are probably not the agents of the white genocide, but definitely people who, even if holding terrible ideas, are largely rational people you can understand, perhaps empathize with. From there, it’s up to you (not Nick) to draw judgments on them and their ideas from them and the factual world around you.
In short, ignorance is the jingoistic bliss that AF, Antifa or really any of the radical Drumph era movements live in and off on, but dealing with reality is always the messier, but soul saving business of finding yourself in the world around you.
 
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Real world exposure to common people’s stands political issues, and then the proper education (formal or no) to review those views for yourself should do wonders. AF is fueled by this shadowy kill or be killed vision of society where some conspiracy somewhere is set to destroy them, but the truth is Dale the old democrat down the road or some Hispanic people you go to school with are probably not the agents of the white genocide, but definitely people who, even if holding terrible ideas, are largely rational people you can understand, perhaps empathize with. From there, it’s up to you (not Nick) to draw judgments on them and their ideas from them and the factual world around you.
In short, ignorance is the jingoistic bliss that AF, Antifa or really any of the radical Drumph era movements live in and off on, but dealing with reality is always the messier, but soul saving business of finding yourself in the world around you.
I think judging individuals by the content of their character falls apart when so many of the niggers really do end up being just niggers. I'm reminded of an old 4chan screenshot that tries to explain how white guys were taught to be nicer & more tolerant than their fathers or grandparents & the end result was The Other inventing stuff like white privilege, white fragility, affirmative action, etc., just slapping them in the face for showing empathyweakness. The Other reverting monke when shown kindness is negative reinforcement. America First grifters are 50% grifters, 50% the direct logical consequence of this negative reinforcement.
 
I think judging individuals by the content of their character falls apart when so many of the niggers really do end up being just niggers
Even if so, slavery to categorical rejection of people always acts to be an engine to do more harm than good, particularly to the wheat burned with the weeds. As I said, the bad aspects of reality shouldn’t be ignored, but to completely wall yourself in as being (by some group connection) superior inherently to those in that outgroup is intellectually cheap and more so morally.
To take an example, yes, mass immigration in artificially demoralized societies has had great negative consequences for both natives and immigrants pressed into that system. That does not give someone carblanche to slaughter random innocent minorities like in Charlotte, El Paso, Christchurch and now Buffalo. For even if their being there is the result of that terrible system, that does not and cannot give someone permission to end individual lives, good or bad, blindly in a delusional terroristic stand against that policy.
I think Harvard president Increase Mather said it best as the Salem Witch trials ran their bloody course “It were better that ten suspected witches should escape, than that one innocent person should be condemned.”
 
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Maybe if these men got into a productive hobby besides video games and consuming anime that would fix a lot of their problems. Also, maybe instead of looking for a daddy figure they can try to better themselves and become the type of man they wished their father was. That way, if they have kids, they can be a positive influence in their kids lives and also contribute to fixing issues that are plaguing America right now which is fatherless households.
You're describing a solution that is supposed to manifest itself out of nothing. Of course these kids can see what not to do, but they don't know how to prevent the bad things (turning into weak, maladjusted adults) from happening.

They need fathers that do to emulate, not just references on what's bad to react against. That's why they attach themselves to Fuentes in the first place.
 
I think people that adopt racist/etc ideologies also tend to be deeply insecure as well as poorly socialized. They cling to some random physical trait they were born with and treat it like an accomplishment because they lack real accomplishments. They also haven't been out in the world and interacted with a variety of different people enough to realize everyone is different, and you can't make blanket condemnations and judgements about huge groups of people because they have some random physical characteristic in common.

Tl;dr these dudes need to touch grass and work on bettering themselves, and find a hobby or volunteer or something so they can have real accomplishments to be proud of
 
I think people that adopt racist/etc ideologies also tend to be deeply insecure as well as poorly socialized. They cling to some random physical trait they were born with and treat it like an accomplishment because they lack real accomplishments. They also haven't been out in the world and interacted with a variety of different people enough to realize everyone is different, and you can't make blanket condemnations and judgements about huge groups of people because they have some random physical characteristic in common.

Tl;dr these dudes need to touch grass and work on bettering themselves, and find a hobby or volunteer or something so they can have real accomplishments to be proud of
People naturally try to label themselves and find tribes of similar other people. Physical characteristics are the most apparent and the easiest to model an identity around. To say nothing of the fact that temperament and personality is at least partially genetic and partially cultural. Both of which have connections to physical characteristics. At the same time, a truly mature and rational person will recognize that you should first and foremost judge someone based on their individual behavior and conduct. To say you don't like the urban African American community doesn't mean that you would be rude to an African American cashier at the grocery store.

However, the more time I spend around minorities and gays, the more I realize the stereotypes about those groups are extremely close to the truth.

Edited to add that given your conduct in the Not Just Bikes thread you have no room to tell people to touch grass and better themselves.
 
However, the more time I spend around minorities and gays, the more I realize the stereotypes about those groups are extremely close to the truth.
I mean yeah a lot of dykes do like flannel and Subarus and a lot of gay men like Lady Gaga and musicals
 
It's a mix of the lack of identity teens and youths have as well as AF cult tactics. You see this logic in trannies too. A sunk cost fallacy and your life is miserable outside of your polycule and you must go into your retarded hugbox to be "okay". Also you're probably a pedophile.
 
I mean yeah a lot of dykes do like flannel and Subarus and a lot of gay men like Lady Gaga and musicals
Dykes beating their partners and blacks being unable to control violent impulses was more what I was talking about but sure
 
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