The Handmaid's Tale - Null's latest favorite pop culture thing. A world where guys like Nick Fuentes and Turkey Tom rule america. "anyone that hates this tv show is a pedo"

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They 100% purged the racist elements from Gilead, sue to the implications of families refusing fertile minority women. One episode even has a commander with a literal Benetton ad full of mixed race kids from the different races of handmaids he had.

Leftists have some bizarre fixation/fetization of non-White fertility.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I like how in the novel's framing device (an academic historical conference about Gilead and other dystopian successor states in the post-apocalypse era), it's basically stated that the Resistance movement failed and became little more than an obscure historical footnote. The main character never went on to be mythologized as a martyr or hero or even a historical figure. Despite extensive cross referencing of the spotty historical records and primary sources that survived, the lecturer can't even exactly confirm the main character's identity, being only able to narrow it down to 2-3 possible candidates.

And how the lecturer's presentation of the main character's secret diary isn't even the highlight of the academic conference.

It's like Margaret Atwood already knew way back then that no1curr

Your post made me Google how was that Gilead collapsed, because, iicr, it just imploded due to corruption and not being able to sustain itself.

Turns out, Atwood wrote a sequel.

"In secret, Aunt Lydia despises Gilead and becomes a mole supplying critical information to the Mayday resistance organization."

Apparently, one of the villains was secretly the hero and she was the one who made the whole thing go down! Go women!

I haven't read the books, but Wiki says that Aunt Lidya just leaked info about the corrupt elite to Canada... Omg, Canada! That leaded to a reform that leaded to a coup. Amazing writing.

 

[Stunner900]

I haven't read the books, but Wiki says that Aunt Lidya just leaked info about the corrupt elite to Canada... Omg, Canada! That leaded to a reform that leaded to a coup. Amazing writing.

Was forced to read the first book in college, funny it’s “leaked to the Canadians” instead of the Baptist/Christian militant groups that Gilead is at war with.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

The IRL book club I'm in (gay, I know) is reading this for April's meeting. The theme of said book club is speculative fiction, which means we usually read sci-fi and fantasy. I've never read the book or seen the show and I'm considering skipping that meeting altogether. The club has a strong liberal/lefty slant but it never gets too obnoxious beyond occasional complaints about the way some women are written in some books.

You should read it.

Most of the people talking about it haven't read it and it shows.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Was forced to read the first book in college, funny it’s “leaked to the Canadians” instead of the Baptist/Christian militant groups that Gilead is at war with.

Because that would make no sense. The rebels already know what's going on, it's why they're rebels to begin with.

They also don't have the means to broadcast these things to the world like an independent country such as Canada does. All communications technology in Gilead is heavily censored and restricted to the Commanders and other elites. The rebels can't exactly just whip out their cell phones and send a text.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

First book I really enjoyed. The sequel, The Testaments, was absolutely dogshit though.

First season of the show was good as well because it followed the book.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Most of the people talking about it haven't read it and it shows.

Which cannot possibly be surprising. Most people with a fetish for a certain piece of media usually only take what they want from it and forget everything else.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

First book I really enjoyed. The sequel, The Testaments, was absolutely dogshit though.

First season of the show was good as well because it followed the book.

The first two seasons were good and then it got stupid.

Mary Sue plot armor.

The book makes it clear that she's not some hardass, she's just a random woman having a baby for some functionary. She doesn't know people, and her entire social sphere is maybe 50 people, tops. There aren't opportunities for making big connections.

Even if June's magic birthing ability was that valuable, a real totalitarian society would have chained her to a bed in the basement for the rest of her life, sold her down the river, cut her hands off, or all of the above.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

The first two seasons were good and then it got stupid.

Mary Sue plot armor.

The book makes it clear that she's not some hardass, she's just a random woman having a baby for some functionary. She doesn't know people, and her entire social sphere is maybe 50 people, tops. There aren't opportunities for making big connections.

Even if June's magic birthing ability was that valuable, a real totalitarian society would have chained her to a bed in the basement for the rest of her life, sold her down the river, cut her hands off, or all of the above.

Weren’t the first few seasons just focused on some suburb in Boston? Saw some of the latter seasons and it seems more interesting when the expanded the world building.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

Weren’t the first few seasons just focused on some suburb in Boston? Saw some of the latter seasons and it seems more interesting when the expanded the world building.

I'm not here to drop spoilers, but starting in season 3, the creators seemed more interested in set pieces than in "real life."

As an example, there are handmaids with their mouths wired shut.

Visually arresting, but not practical.

A handmaid gets pregnant, gets morning sickness, and dies choking on vomit because the aesthetics were cool? Nah.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I'm not here to drop spoilers, but starting in season 3, the creators seemed more interested in set pieces than in "real life."

As an example, there are handmaids with their mouths wired shut.

Visually arresting, but not practical.

A handmaid gets pregnant, gets morning sickness, and dies choking on vomit because the aesthetics were cool? Nah.

Based if they only do it for the Sheboon ones,

That’s also one thing tha never made any sense. Why they used non Whites as wives and handmaids. Like why the fuck would the main characters oldest daughter (nappy haired mulatto) be sent to a special school where they train up the blue coat wives?

 

[God of Nothing]

Leftists have some bizarre fixation/fetization of non-White fertility.

They look at the big brown families with wonder, not knowing white people reproduced just as much before the modern societal hell we created for ourselves.

The reality is when brownies fully become part of a first world society without fully becoming welfare leeches their birth rates decline just like whites'. I wonder whyyyyy???

 

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They look at the big brown families with wonder, not knowing white people reproduced just as much before the modern societal hell we created for ourselves.

The reality is when brownies fully become part of a first world society without fully becoming welfare leeches their birth rates decline just like whites'. I wonder whyyyyy???

I was referring to films like Children of Men.

 

[Tram Fan]

>but all the places where women are horribly oppressed are brown or muslim (or both)
>can't write a story where browns or muslims are portrayed negatively cause that would be racist
>solution: race swap the evil browns, make them white instead, and religion-swap the evil muslims, make them christians instead

I tried reading it and had to put it down. It's just straight up fetish content. which also explains why it's so popular. book girlies do love their smut.

Okaaay guys, I think I have to reread the book, because I don't recall mentions of race. Also I'm not sure if it's fetish content, but still it wasn't as much sex as you'd expect. And the main character was a rather helpless woman. I don't plan on watching the show.

I've never watched the show. For one thing, that time is over - America is a less religious place than it was, and modern Christian activism is less about teaching their own junk science to other people's kids and more about keeping other people's junk science (i.e., troonery) from being taught to their own kids.

Not all places and not all versions of Christianity, but agreed besides.

it'd have been cooler if the writer was realistic and used muslims

This shit literally happens in islam countries, just not at such a big scale. You can go to an islamic city, record a documentary there, call it "the handmaid's tale" and you'd be correct. But, islamophobia bad xd

A lot of dystopian fanfics literature from that period were
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It was a wider problem that affected the sci fi genre at-large at the time

Women like written porn, men like video porn, it's the same. Although I don't remember all that much sex in 1984.

I like how sex slavery is both an incel's and a shitlib book club lady's fantasy.

But seriously, as a woman, if some woman wants to be enslaved, she's retarded.

The IRL book club I'm in (gay, I know) is reading this for April's meeting. The theme of said book club is speculative fiction, which means we usually read sci-fi and fantasy. I've never read the book or seen the show and I'm considering skipping that meeting altogether. The club has a strong liberal/lefty slant but it never gets too obnoxious beyond occasional complaints about the way some women are written in some books.

Nooo, the book itself is short and not leftie, it doesn't present women as a better species or something, and not all men there are bad. Not to spoiler, but the main character is a rather helpless woman. She's not a veeery delicate type, but she's no rebel, she's just average.

 

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I was referring to films like Children of Men.

Globohomo Noble Savage idiocy is why.

Children of men is unwatchable now thanks to goobohomos.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Because that would make no sense. The rebels already know what's going on, it's why they're rebels to begin with.

They also don't have the means to broadcast these things to the world like an independent country such as Canada does. All communications technology in Gilead is heavily censored and restricted to the Commanders and other elites. The rebels can't exactly just whip out their cell phones and send a text.

The funniest bit about this is that liberals see Canada as an utopia for them to live, while we know Canada is a mess and they're the ones with a state executing sick people they can't support anymore.

The first two seasons were good and then it got stupid.

Because the book has enough material for one or two seasons. The rest had to be just fanfic with the purpose of make sure Trump is a bad guy. The og movie is just two hours and it had the entire material, except the final conference, iicr. That's all you can do with such a short book.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

This shit literally happens in islam countries, just not at such a big scale. You can go to an islamic city, record a documentary there, call it "the handmaid's tale" and you'd be correct. But, islamophobia bad xd

The novel's heavily influenced by what happened during the Iranian Revolution and conditions in Saudi Arabia during the 1980s, combined with the rise of the hypocritical televangelists, evangelicals and Moral Majority types during the same period in the US.

The funniest bit about this is that liberals see Canada as an utopia for them to live, while we know Canada is a mess and they're the ones with a state executing sick people they can't support anymore.

Yeah, things have changed a lot since 1985.

That’s also one thing tha never made any sense. Why they used non Whites as wives and handmaids. Like why the fuck would the main characters oldest daughter (nappy haired mulatto) be sent to a special school where they train up the blue coat wives?

This is a huge deviation from the novel and I'm not sure why they downplayed that racism in the series. Blacks were deported to a "National Homeland" out in North Dakota to presumably farm (or just plain die). Other non-white populations aren't mentioned but it's probably the same deal, there are no Asian or Hispanic characters.

I also don't like how the series plays up the Christian aspects of Gilead when it's clear they're not really Christian, much more Old Testament monotheism with selective (and altered) use of New Testament writings to support their ideology.

 

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The novel's heavily influenced by what happened during the Iranian Revolution and conditions in Saudi Arabia during the 1980s, combined with the rise of the hypocritical televangelists, evangelicals and Moral Majority types during the same period in the US.

Polygamy has never ever been an accepted practiced thing in western civilization. It's one of the defining things that separated it from the rest of the planet. Even the Romans and greeks did not practice plural marriage.

 

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I tried to watch the handmaid's tale, but I got it mixed up with the handmaiden. It was awesome. Couldn't understand why everyone hated it or when the red outfit would come in...

I tried to read the handmaid's tale, but it was so poorly written that I stopped after about a page. Horrible.

 

[God of Nothing]

Polygamy has never ever been an accepted practiced thing in western civilization. It's one of the defining things that separated it from the rest of the planet. Even the Romans and greeks did not practice plural marriage.

I think there was one or even a few Roman emperors who did, but that's the literal 0.000001% of the population.
Polygamy just isn't functional. Look at what the fucking Ottomans had to do since they couldn't stop having harems of women in general. A family purge every succession is not a good or stable thing. It's literal caveman tribal behavior.