The Disappearance of Gus Lamont - The strange case of the Australian 4yo with a tranny grandfather

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yolotengo dijo:
Theyre even coming up with made up excuses covering up tranpa's behaviour with the shotgun.
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Yeah that shit was immediately sus. The cops here love an excuse to take someone's guns away; the fact that this deranged troon is still allowed to keep his despite getting caught on camera waving his shotgun around at a news reporter is totally unprecedented.
 
They may have said they ruled out foul play, but if they're doing their job they definitely haven't. If they're covering for them then yeah they can just say anything..doesn't matter if they're not actually investigating.
 
Incorrigible Bigotry dijo:
The cops here love an excuse to take someone's guns away; the fact that this deranged troon is still allowed to keep his despite getting caught on camera waving his shotgun around at a news reporter is totally unprecedented.
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Primary producers (i.e. farmers) are one of the few groups that are able to obtain a firearms licence. In South Australia this is a Category 5 licence.

Authorises​

  • The possession and use of firearms for use in primary production business

Firearm Categories​

  • Category A
  • Category B
  • Category C
    • Additional conditions for any person who is the relative or employee of the primary production business operator
    • There must be a special need for this firearm that cannot be met by any other category firearm.
    • Any Category C firearm must, when not in use for the business, be secured and stored at the licensee’s principle residence
    • This licence does not authorise possession of more than
      • 1 x self loading rifle
        and
      • 1 shotgun that is either self loading or pump action
  • Category H
    • Only in the circumstances defined that relate to the repealed Act
      or
    • Where the business of primary production is on land that is at least 15,000 hectares in area
      All land must be within South Australian area

Conditions​

  • Must be
    • The operator of a primary production business
      or
    • A person engaged in a primary production business as an employee or relative of the operator

Supporting documents​

  • 100 points of identification
  • The application fee
  • Proof of Australian citizenship or Permanent Residency
  • Proof of usual South Australian residency
  • Firearms Licence Application (PD303)
  • Evidence of involvement in primary production business as any of the following
    • an operator or
    • an employee or
    • a relative of an operator of a primary production business
This evidence may include a statutory declaration (RF1643), Certificate from Employer (PD314), business registration documents or other documents confirming roles, relationships and primary production activities

Supporting documents – applicants aged 15-17 years​

  • Evidence of involvement in primary production business as any of the following
    • an employee or
    • a relative of an operator of a primary production business who lives near or on the land used for the business
This evidence may include a statutory declaration (RF1643), business registration documents or other documents confirming roles, relationships and primary production activities

  • This licence is limited to Category A and B firearm use only
  • This licensee may not apply for a permit to acquire a firearm

Supporting documents – category C applications​

  • Evidence of the primary production business – registration documents etc
  • Evidence of ownership
    or
  • Certificate from the employer on the Certificate of Training (PD314)
  • Evidence of involvement in primary production business as
    • an operator or
    • an employee or
    • a relative of an operator of a primary production business who lives near or on the land used for the business
      This evidence may include a statutory declaration (RF1643), Certificate from the employer on the Certificate of Training (PD314), business registration documents or other documents confirming roles, relationships and primary production activities
  • Evidence there is a special need for a Category C firearm of that kind that cannot be met by another Category of firearm.
Regulation 18 Firearms Regulations 2017
As for taking Tranpa's guns away, how does anyone know that SAPOL hasn't taken his guns away? It's not like the South Australian Firearms Register is a publicly searchable database (at least as far as I know).

I wonder if the reporter who was threatened has filed an incident report. If so, I suspect this may be cause for Tranpa to lose his licence on account of him no longer being a fit and proper person to hold one.
To hold a firearms licence in South Australia, an individual must be deemed a fit and proper person under Section 7 of the Firearms Act 2015. This assessment ensures that firearms are only accessible to individuals who can safely and responsibly possess them.

A fit and proper person has a reputation for honesty, integrity, and responsible behaviour.

A person may NOT be considered fit and proper if any of the following apply:

  1. Legal restrictions
  • Subject to a Firearms Prohibition Order in any Australian jurisdiction
  • Subject to intervention orders or family violence orders (domestic or international)
  • Subject to any court order prohibiting firearm possession, including bail conditions
  1. Health and safety concerns
  • Has a physical or mental illness, condition, or disorder that makes firearm possession unsafe
  • Has failed to comply with medical reporting requirements issued by the Registrar
  1. Criminal history
  • Found guilty of any firearms offence in Australia
  • Found guilty of actual or threatened violence in Australia or overseas
  • Found guilty of fraud or deception to obtain a firearms licence or permit
  • Found guilty of any prescribed offence under the Firearms Regulations 2017, including offences under:
  • Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935
  • Controlled Substances Act 1984
  • Road Traffic Act 1961
  • Summary Offences Act 1953
  • Intervention Orders (Prevention of Abuse) Act 2009
  • Serious and Organised Crime (Control) Act 2008
  • Tattooing Industry Control Act 2015
  • Young Offenders Act 1993
  • Correctional Services Act 1982
  • Bail Act 1985
  • Note: A finding of guilt includes outcomes without conviction.
  1. Behaviour and associations
    • Demonstrates a history of non-compliance with safe handling, storage, or transport of firearms or related materials.
    • Has made threats or expressed intent to use firearms for unauthorised or violent purposes
    • Has close associates with individuals known to have poor reputations, honesty and integrity or criminal histories.
    • Possesses a personal reputation that raises concerns about honesty, integrity, or stability
  2. Other considerations
The Registrar may consider any other relevant factors that suggest the person may pose a risk to public safety or misuse firearms.

  • Have a genuine reason for owning or using a firearm, aligned with one of the 12 licence categories (e.g., hunting, sport shooting, occupational use)
  • Provide proof of identity (100-point ID check)
  • Comply with strict requirements for safe storage, handling and transport of firearms
The Act also aims to:

  • Promote safe and responsible firearm use
  • Prevent access to firearms for criminal purposes
  • Minimise risks of violence, injury, or psychological harm
  • Support a nationally consistent approach to firearm control
 
Incorrigible Bigotry dijo:
Yeah that shit was immediately sus. The cops here love an excuse to take someone's guns away; the fact that this deranged troon is still allowed to keep his despite getting caught on camera waving his shotgun around at a news reporter is totally unprecedented.
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Yeah I honestly can't believe no action was taken, I'm in another state where the special operations group would be dragging you out with a broken arm and fractured skull if you fuck around with a gun like that. Hunting pests on crown land, deer, ducks whatever and target shooting. None of that is native wildlife on your fucking verandah.
 
In case you're wondering about the sort of terrain Gus's body was dumped disappeared in. Waukaringa mine ruins. Note that Waukaringa is located north of Yunta, whereas Oak Park is located south of Yunta.


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Landscape around Yunta



Even though these drone shots were taken at least 20-30km away from Oak Park, it's indicative of the kind of country out there. I'm guessing nobody is game to fly a drone over Oak Park proper, lest Tranpa try shooting it down.
 
Pee Cola dijo:
In case you're wondering about the sort of terrain Gus's body was dumped disappeared in. Waukaringa mine ruins. Note that Waukaringa is located north of Yunta, whereas Oak Park is located south of Yunta.
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I have to admit I love this kind of desolate area, although it's nowhere to get lost in and sometimes really scary to be in at night. Weird shit always seems to happen.
Toxic BRAAAAP Mask dijo:
Seriously though, I don't see how you can 'disappear' in a place like that.
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Simple, fall down a mine shaft. Or in the night cold, try to take refuge from wind in an area under a cliff or other upright object. There's just too much space to disappear in. People die in the desert all the time (like in illegal border crossings from Mexico to the U.S.) and simply are not found for years or even decades.

If you're somewhere you die from exposure, you seek cover when you are in that situation, which can lead to you putting yourself in some unfindable place. Like the Death Valley Germans. (This is a tourist thing in the U.S. where they don't seem to get that if we call something "Death Valley," that isn't just some cool meme, it is that you can DIE THERE.) (Also the DVGs didn't do it on purpose but were too dumb to turn back from a doomed path.)
 
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Dharma bump dijo:
The snake part is weird and I dont buy it. Shovels for snakes, rifles for rabbits.
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It's not just weird.
Snakes are protected under the Wildlife Act 1975. It is illegal to capture, kill or harm them in any way
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The fact the cops refuse to even acknowledge this or respond to anyone who asks, in my opinion, they're either investigating tranpa for the murder of a child and don't want to rock the boat with it, so to speak, or they are completely incapable of doing their job properly. We have to pick one.
 
Russell Coight dijo:
Snakes are protected under the Wildlife Act 1975. It is illegal to capture, kill or harm them in any way
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It won't stop someone living in the country from clobbering a brown snake with a shovel, especially if they have pets or kids running around. It sure as shit won't stop me from doing that if I had to.
 
Pee Cola dijo:
It won't stop someone living in the country from clobbering a brown snake with a shovel, especially if they have pets or kids running around. It sure as shit won't stop me from doing that if I had to.
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I don't know about tranpa but if I see a snake on my verandah I'm going to be hesitant when it comes to shooting at my floorboards with a shotgun, let alone leave a small child outside unsupervised for half an hour.

That whole "I'm shooting snakes" angle just seems like a complete lie tranpa came up with.

Any other gun owner would have been fucked in the arse by now if they waved a shotgun around at some reporters. This grieving troon got a pass somehow.
 
Russell Coight dijo:
It's not just weird.

The fact the cops refuse to even acknowledge this or respond to anyone who asks, in my opinion, they're either investigating tranpa for the murder of a child and don't want to rock the boat with it, so to speak, or they are completely incapable of doing their job properly. We have to pick one.
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My interpretation is they are overcompensating towards non-vilification because the Chamberlain case is burned into everybody's memories. They are going to shield the family completely unless they are 100% sure this is a murder. They don't want a trial by media, so they aren't going to raise a finger if a gun gets waved at a reporter.
 
Hunter Hearst Helmsley dijo:
My interpretation is they are overcompensating towards non-vilification because the Chamberlain case is burned into everybody's memories. They are going to shield the family completely unless they are 100% sure this is a murder. They don't want a trial by media, so they aren't going to raise a finger if a gun gets waved at a reporter.
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You’re not the first person I’ve heard say that but I find it unconvincing. Chamberlain was 45 years ago. I personally just think they’re maintaining a working relationship with family because it assists them in their investigation. Their property is so big that without access to it there’s nothing they can do to surveille the family.
 
Hunter Hearst Helmsley dijo:
My interpretation is they are overcompensating towards non-vilification because the Chamberlain case is burned into everybody's memories. They are going to shield the family completely unless they are 100% sure this is a murder. They don't want a trial by media, so they aren't going to raise a finger if a gun gets waved at a reporter.
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Decent theory but wouldn't the dubious release of Folbigg be MORE than compensation for yet another legal fuckup?

Russell Coight dijo:
completely incapable of doing their job
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SAPOL?
Incompetent?

Does the Tin-Man have a sheet-metal cock?
 
Florch dijo:
Decent theory but wouldn't the dubious release of Folbigg be MORE than compensation for yet another legal fuckup?
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Didn’t hear too much objective reporting on that one but ChatGPT reckoned 2/4 kids didn’t even have that gene, and none of them died in conditions consistent with heart conditions (which is to say that such latent conditions typically have warning signs, and manifest at times of high stress on the heart - not during sleep). It’s difficult as a layperson to understand how that genetic evidence was anything but a fishing expedition. Statistically we ALL have some rare genetic condition.
 
Rekieta’s Broken Penis dijo:
Didn’t hear too much objective reporting on that one but ChatGPT reckoned 2/4 kids didn’t even have that gene, and none of them died in conditions consistent with heart conditions (which is to say that such latent conditions typically have warning signs, and manifest at times of high stress on the heart - not during sleep). It’s difficult as a layperson to understand how that genetic evidence was anything but a fishing expedition. Statistically we ALL have some rare genetic condition.
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Off the top of my head, my (layman) understanding was even the 2/4 that had a 'genetic condition', it has never been shown to cause sudden death in humans.
Likewise the 2019 review of her convictions, stated again and again that the judges "were even more certain of her guilt" following the review.
Fast forward a few years and out of nowhere she is released.
 
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