The Death Penalty - To what degree is it right or wrong?

[Ow The Edge]

For it. Anyone who's ever worked with prisoners knows that they're plenty dangerous even if they don't break out and some of them are just straight-up beyond any non-supernatural hope of redemption. Also I think it's the only proportionate and fair punishment for willful murder. You willingly, unjustly take a life? You lose any right to your own.

 

[Pitere pit]

You are giving the government a direct incentive to find innocent people guilty to fuel medical experimentation.

I didn't want to send that message. I admit that I wrote these words out of anger. I am tired of degenerates living on our taxes while the victims suffer. Of course I don't want gobmints finding innocent people for medical experimentation.
And didn't think about how innocents might suffer, my bad, but I was pretty angry at the moment.
Now, without angerposting, I defend the death penalty for offending pedos, serial rapists, murderers and corrupt politicians_bankers

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

I'm generally against it, because I simply don't trust the government to use it to deal with actual criminals, and instead expect that it'd be used to kill people they don't like. The benefits of the death penalty are pretty good (Not having to pay a ton of money to keep said criminals alive for decades), but it's outweighed by the fact that it's not power you'd want to give to the government. Think of all the people out there who'd love to make things like "hate speech" worthy of the death penalty.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

Think of all the people out there who'd love to make things like "hate speech" worthy of the death penalty.

Those people should get the death penalty

 

[queerape]

I think that there are cases that do warrant it, but those same cases would be equally well served with LWOP or a whole life order. States in the US overuse LWOP, I think LWOP should be the new death penalty, LWOP as currently used should be life with parole with ineligibility up to 35 years. There is no point to having a death row if there is no way to execute anyone in a way that can’t ever be botched so the 8thA will always be a problem, most “Death Rows” are functionally LWOP already because of all the delays in process. LWOP also allows the possibility of retrial in case of exculpatory evidence is found or if there was a miscarriage of justice or mistrial.

 

[Eclair's Shota Paradise]

It's a slippery slope. I feel the Death Penalty is a viable punishment, but never in circumstantial cases. Is there straight up physical evidence? Footage? Fingerprints on the murder weapon? Yeah, they should get the Death Penalty. Especially with those who commit more than 1 murder or so, because I feel like 1 can still be given reasonable explanation, say in life or death situations or just freak accidents.

The problem is, I don't trust the government beyond that. Murder charges are one thing, a person is dead, and if the body is found then it's an indisputable fact. But rape charges? Abuse charges? There's too much potential for people that the government dislikes to suddenly end up being charged with multiple counts of rape and put on death row.

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

The death penalty should be standard for any Prius driver in the left lane.

 

[Rice Is Ready]

Death row inmates should have televised karate death matches in elaborate booby trapped arenas.

 

[Takodachi]

I'm all for it for anyone who has taken a life, you know, equivalent exchange and all that. Only exception would be pedophiles who would get the worse, most painful execution, I even have something in mind for them.

Have all the affected people take a shit on an outhouse, once its reasonably filled, transfer that to a regular toilet, have someone slowly drown the pedo on everyone's shit and throw the body on some desert so the animals can feast on it.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Torture is a waste of resources, if death penalty was to be brought back, in my opinion it should be just swift break of a neck on the noose and then getting rid of the corpse, in the end person is dead either way and law enforcement should be as neutral as possible, torture doesn't serve much if the person is sentenced to death besides making people feel better.

 

[LazarusOwenhart]

Innocent people should never be the collateral damage of the legal system. The problem with the death penalty is that it's not reversible. You can't release and compensate a wrongly accused dead person. You cannot give children back a parent or parents back a child. Most western legal systems are founded on the principle that it's better for a hundred guilty men to go free than one innocent man to be imprisoned. I know the argument can be made that there are robust legal frameworks in place to allow a sentence of death to be challenged multiple times before the execution is actually carried out, but that still doesn't change the fact that there will always be a potential for an innocent person, no matter how unlikely, to be executed by the state. The US has the highest number of murders per capita of any "western" nation, way above some places without capital punishment so it's not a deterrent. It seems to me to simply be a slightly barbaric holdover from a different time and like most old, pointless things, is now obsolete.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

This is an issue that I've found myself going back and forth on. Sometimes I think about the possibility of an innocent person being wrongfully convicted, and it makes me really upset.

However, whenever I read or hear about a particularly heinous story about something that someone did, I have the tendency to relent and say "Yeah, this fucker doesn't deserve to live."

So, I am for it ... But when it is absolutely warranted.

 

[ABE LINN COHN]

I believe the death penalty should be used for those criminals who commit crimes against fellow prisoners. Anyone who assaults/rapes/murders his fellow inmate while in prison has shown that prison is not enough to keep him from being a danger to society.

 

[A-Stump]

I think involuntary manslaughter should be off the table in a lot of cases and that people should get the death penalty. Why should some bozo who gets drunk and kills a family of four get ten years in prison? Fry that motherfucker.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

So I feel like we should have the death penalty but that the bar has to be set quite high. For instance I feel like it should be used when there is a serial killer, mass murderer, or we are 100% sure they’re guilty. That way innocent people are not sentenced to death.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

I think the death penalty is justified but I don't trust the moronic bureaucracy of any of our governments not to abuse it.
This pretty much is where we are at.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

I think the death penalty should only be used for serial or clearly sociopathic murderers, pedophiles, zoosadists, the severely autistic/dangerously retarded, and 100% of all forms of political or government corruption, most especially, the latter. Of course, that's in a vacuum, running under the proviso that the courts could make the right call 100% of the time.

With the government corruption thing, though, no courts. No hearing. No appeals process. Just kill em.

 

[KingCoomer]

Some people are animals that just need to be put down. Simple as.

 

[The handsome tard]

I understand that there are innocents that get wrongfully put there but thats more of a fault with those handling the investigations than the legal system necessarily. There are just a lot of criminals that live in comfort in prisons, probably living better than they did in their crummy apartaments and they know they basically cheated the system since now they live on the tax payer money.

Im a true crime enjoyer and I see far too many times criminals that undoubtably did it (some even confessed) but they ended up getting life one way or the other (even if they got the death penalty, legal fuckery leads to it being reversed).

I see a lot of talk about "rehabilitation" and thats really a logical dead end to me because most harsher criminals either dont want to get fixed or they cant be fixed. A lot of them may say they regret it but how many of them actually mean it? Ironically enough, some these criminals tend to be killed by other in mates that probably know that these pieces of trash dont deserve to live and its not like they themselves are getting out, soo... *Stab*

I feel like we need reform the legal system to lead to a system that leads to fair but strict punishments with proper actual unbiased investigation. But good fucking luck with that ever happening.

 

[Neighborhood Curmudgeon]

In a perfect world, we could execute dangerous evil people without question. I don't care about the rights or feelings of a violent felon who destroyed lives and terrorized a community. Fortunately for the human garbage of the world, there are plenty of misguided idiots who treat them like victims. There's also lots of government and legal incompetance that ensures innocent people get executed or the process is needlessly drawn out.

If it were my way, then deserving criminals would get a bullet to head with no questions asked. However, we don't live in a perfect world where we can easily sift out those people or give them the consequences they deserve.