The Death Penalty - To what degree is it right or wrong?

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The death penalty should be used.

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I think that the death penalty should be reserved for the people who ruined the lives of an immeasurable amount of people and the most hardcore war criminals. Your Maos, Pol Pots, Miloseviches, Putins and Ratko Mladic types. Also, whichever retarded fucker released the COVID virus. If they can't be identified, then Xi himself.

Pedophiles shouldn't be killed. They should be tortured daily.

For most other big crimes, life behind bars seems sufficient.
 
anustart76 dijo:
I want to support it in theory, but do you really trust government not to kill off innocent people, whether by incompetence or outright malice? I certainly don't; just look at how badly some judges have been behaving in recent years, with people like Alex Jones. Imagine if the judge or jury from the Trump defamation case were at the Rittenhouse case, that kid would be dead for defending himself.

At least life sentences mean there's some chance of exoneration for an innocent person. And better 100 guilty escape than one innocent suffer.
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The issue I have with this argument is that the government can already kill you/destroy your life if you piss it off. And sometimes even if you don't get financially ruined from a trial, you won't ever have anyone who'll employ you.
 
I believe the abolition of the Death Penalty is funded by the rich to keep the criminals alive.

And they use the scum of society to artificially promote it as some "grassroots" when it isn't.


Iqbal was sentenced to death; the judge passed the sentence saying, "You will be strangled to death in front of the parents whose children you killed, your body will then be cut into 100 pieces and put in acid, the same way you killed the children." The Interior Minister, Moinuddin Haider, contradicted the sentence by stating that Pakistan is a signatory of the Human Rights Commission, so "such punishments are not allowed."[10]
 
I'm torn on it, really. My main concern is the possibility of killing innocent people, but beyond that it might be good to give criminals life in prison to have more opportunity to read the Bible and repent of their sins.

On the other hand, more practically, some people need to be kept from society at all costs and death is the most effective method of ensuring that result. It's also cheaper, so resources that would be used to imprison criminals could be reallocated somewhere more useful.

When I read about some of the atrocities in A&N I lean toward the death penalty, but I don't know what's morally correct.
 
What gets me about people who disagree about the death penalty is that theyll see a man like Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people at a youth camp in Norway in 2011, and not think the only way to effectively end the threat is to kill him. Due to the fucked Scandinavian crime system he'll be up for release in a few years. Its almost guarantied theyll come up with some continuance to hold him but theres always the possibility
 
SSj_Ness dijo:
On the other hand, more practically, some people need to be kept from society at all costs and death is the most effective method of ensuring that result. It's also cheaper, so resources that would be used to imprison criminals could be reallocated somewhere more useful.
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Uh, it's definitely not cheaper in the US because of the extra legal and judicial oversight involved.

I pretty much agree with the Catholic view that the death penalty should only be used if someone's an imminent threat to society and your prison system is so trash they're likely to break out or be freed at some point.
 
My belief is that if we're going to have it, we should reserve it for truly extraordinary circumstances. Think mass shooters, serial killers, or other cases where the person in question has committed an absolutely horrid act and shows no sign of regret.
 
I like the idea of shooting perps in the streets if they get caught in the act, and then just leaving the bodies to rot. totalitarianism is a hell of a deterrent
 
I prefer forced hard labor in horrid conditions. When someone is sentenced to death, they work to death. They don't work, they get no food. Let them refuse until they starve. If they change their mind and start working, take as long to feed them as long as it did for them to get back to laboring.

Or have paid hitmen in the prisons do the dirty work and call it an accident.
 
So Ghana abolished the death penalty today.

However their reasoning, is just so batshit insane in my view.

Its not like the typical you know like "we don't trust our process for making sure innocents don't die".

It sounded more like something you hear at the ESG mandated training scheduled by the average wokeshit American corporation these days.

Ghana abolishes death penalty (Archive)

According to the sponsor of the bills, Francis-Xavier Sosu of Ghana’s National Democratic Congress (NDC) party, the law change will lead to a freer and more “open, prosperous, inclusive and secure society” in the country with a population in excess of 32 million people.

He added last month that “on death row, prisoners woke up thinking this could be their last day on earth. They were like the living dead: psychologically, they had ceased to be humans.”
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The way I see it life in prison is just a slow execution. Speeding it up is both humane and it saves money. Also, lots of sick fuckers are garbage humans and deserve to be hanged. Its just a clean, effective and easy form of punishment. Ropes are inexpensive.
 
The most common argument I hear against the death penalty is , "Akschually, it costs more to give someone the death penalty cause of the appeals than it does to give em life in prison." Which isn't an argument against the death penalty so much as the process surrounding it.

Or they'll talk about how it's so hard to get the drugs to do lethal injections, which again isn't an argument against the morality of the death penalty. Also they never have an answer for why it's hard to get drugs for lethal injection executions but Canada can get thousands of doses of suicide drugs no problem.

Personally I'm all for the death penalty, I think there is a subset of people in society who can never be reformed and should have their lives ended for heinous crimes. To balance the use of the death penalty with justice, not applying it to potentially innocent people, I would be in favor of only invoking the death penalty in cases with an extremely high burden of proof. Basically streamline the process so the sentence is carried out immediately but the death penalty can only be invoked when the evidence is irrefutable.
 
Death penalty is based and authoritarianism pilled. Rape a kid, kill someone intentionally, traffic/deal hard drugs? Off with your head.

I'd watch that shit nightly if it was televised. Improving society one execution at a time.
 
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Bone Santa dijo:
You trust them to steal your money and use it to lock up large parts of the population for their entire lives, but giving a bad man a shot of the ol' byebye juice is a step too far?
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I don't trust the government to not fuck up a simple order of McDonald's, I don't like that they rob me but it's not like I can do anything about it
 
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