Lefties hate right leaning people so much it's scary, he's mad forever because he accidentally wrote a sympathetic right leaning character with realistic flaws people sort of agreed with.
Now Lefties are more blunt, right leaning characters are all Homelander now.
So what they're saying is that all right-wingers are actually sympathetic people inside who are just broken and turned into monsters by the corporate state?
Then shouldn't these leftists be mad at outfits like Amazon or Disney?
Except he wasn't trying to understand Rorschach, he was trying to paint him as a strawman. That's why Moore is so bootyblasted and keeps grumbling that no one "gets it." You weren't supposed to think Rorschach had a point at all, you were supposed to clap and cheer he got blipped by Dr. Manhattan.
Alan Moore was horrified when he received letters of approval from fans saying that they applaud Rorschach and want more heroes like him. The fans thought he created a wonderful, edgy hero who takes no shit from anyone, he was horrified because his own boogeyman became a fan favorite. In the same vein, Eric Kripke doubled down on the Homelander and Soldier Boy hate because fans loved them more than they loved his designated heroes of Starlight, Hughie, and Butcher.
This is where I appreciate people like George Lucas and the guys at Hasbro. They allowed their villains, from the Galactic Empire and the Sith, to Cobra and the Decepticons, to become icons on their own right, and if people wanted to be fans of them, the creators didn't get pissy with it. The worst Lucas did was make Vader kill children twice, yet he still allowed kids to buy Vader and Stormtrooper figures up the asshole. He made the Fett clan a bunch of greedy, murderous bastards, yet he didn't begrudge the Mandalorian fan culture that sprang up as a result of the Fetts having immaculate drip. And during the Prequel era, Lucas added Clone Troopers who looked like Stormtroopers into the mix; that way, the Jedi side have their own guys with immaculate drip for the Jedi team to fight alongside.
Hasbro sold Decepticon toys just as much as they did Autobot toys with Transformers, encouraging kids to collect both. And with GI Joe, Hasbro didn't give a fuck that kids fucking loved Cobra Commander and the Cobra forces, to the point where kids tended to gravitate towards buying more Cobra action figures than the Joes. Especially when the Joes look like a motley crew of yahoos, whereas the Cobra soldiers have cool-looking uniforms and costumes. So naturally, the inner warlord that resides inside every young boy bought Cobra toys in large amounts, and Hasbro didn't get mad at the fact that the kids loved their corporate fascist snake-men. They just sold more Cobra toy soldiers, especially since some collectors tended to "troop build" them. And they didn't get pissy at the fans who liked the Decepticons or Cobra.
Funny how Alan Moore and Eric Kripke are celebrated as authors for mature audiences, yet they fucking act like spoiled little kids when the fans like their villains more than their designated heroes. Lucas and the Hasbro execs make stuff for kids, yet they handled things more maturely than Kripke or Moore when their designated villains became more popular than the heroes. Instead of them acting like little babies about it, they asked, "how can I benefit from this?" And they gave the fans what they wanted, for a decent price.
A bit autistic but again I do want to see someone tackle this story of superpowers in a military setting and just go all in on the world building. How would they design tactics and combat doctrines around it, how would they design counter tactics, how would spy craft and intelligence gathering be affected? How would the war industry as a whole be affected by it? Would there be conventions against sending supes to fight in civilian areas? Would wars even exist or would the superpowered soldiers be so powerful and omnipresent that a couple of a country's strongest supes duking it out in a ring determines the victor of a war?
Star Wars already did that. The Jedi are super-powered people who manifest many different powers from the Force. Granted, your basic bitch Jedi uses the Force just to roid themselves up and be faster and stronger, but others can pass through solid matter, control multiple minds, create energy fields, fire energy blasts, among others. And they were the military leaders and law enforcers for a version of Space America that lasted for an impressive 1,000 generations.
Same thing for the Empire and the Sith, although the Sith have more leeway to act as judge, jury, and executioner, and they have more esoteric and deadly powers, such as creating life, or acting as a living lightning rod.
Granted, the movies barely touched on the concept, but the Clone Wars cartoons and the Expanded Universe delve deeper into the concept. Just look at the Maul show and how the Empire counters a Space Mafia led by a Sith by sending in their own Force-wielders who investigate Maul's shenanigans and trace his steps, culminating with the Empire sending in Vader to end Maul's ass once and for all.
One of my favorite stories was in Jedi Outcast, where the Empire cracks the code and figures out how to give normal people Force powers, and their first instinct is to create a Dark Jedi supersoldier army, arming regular people with lightsabers and Force powers, using them as mass-produced shock troopers to overwhelm the Republic and their Jedi.
That's what would've naturally happened if someone like Homelander can be made in a lab. The Feds wouldn't let big business control such knowledge; they'd be using that themselves so they can create their own army of dudes who can fly, have super-strength, super-hearing, X-ray vision, and shoot lasers. As deadly as Homelander is, imagine a whole regiment of guys like him. That's what we'd get if the Boys was actually realistic.
Imagine the Clone Army scene from Attack of the Clones, except with Homelander clones. Homelander himself would just be a prototype, and the real reason why Stan Edgar acts so nonchalant and brave in front of Homelander is because there's already more guys like him being grown. I mean, that was the case in the comics, where Black Noir was a Homelander clone who can keep the original in check, which was why James Stillwell didn't give a fuck about Homelander.
Imagine a scene where Stan Edgar takes Robert Singer to some random Vought facility in flyover country, one that has a massive underground infantry training complex, and you'd see an entire army of Homelander clones. Some are training and sparring, others are marching in lockstep, wielding large railguns that only a superhuman can carry. Stan tells Robert that he has 200,000 clones ready, with a million more, well on the way.
Unlike Homelander, who acts like a spoiled manchild, these clones are stoic, cold, efficient killers, indoctrinated to become good soldiers who follow orders. Their creation was approved of by the previous presidential administration, which furnished the funds and facilities for Vought to be able to create something of that scale.
Imagine Season 4 and 5 with such plotlines; you'd have Stan Edgar or Robert Singer sending these clones to assassinate people who are an inconvenience to the USA, and the Boys discover the clone army when they start investigating who's killing people around the world with Homelander-like powers when Homelander is still in Vought Tower. They'd have to grudgingly work with Homelander and the Seven and discover that Vought has replaced the latter with better superheroes who are closer to supersoldiers than costumed vigilantes.
Kripke's pitch for the show has been released and it's very...well.
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"If you're easily offended, we should stop the pitch now."
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:record scratch: Yeah, this ain't your daddy's TV show pitch!
Last I checked, many superheroes spend their down time training their asses off. Fighting techniques, how NOT to endanger civilians, and many of them spend a lot of time working with the cops, to the point where the cops are the ones who call them in when regular police forces are not enough to subdue a particular threat. (ie. the Batsignal, which James Gordon of the GCPD controls)
That, and most superheroes do not view themselves as gods. It usually is a breaking point threshold; the moment a supe starts seeing himself as a god, or starts acting like one, the other supes think he's lost it and work together to take him down. If I recall, only time a good-guy supe saw themselves as a god are with pagan gods like the Asgardians or the Olympians, or mutants like Storm. Every other supe sees themselves as just civil servants with a bit of an edge, or in the case of Batman and Iron Man, just normal humans with resources.
Not to mention innocents getting harmed in superhero combat is a scandal. That helped kick off the Marvel Civil War because the US government in the Marvel universe worked with Iron Man to federalize all superheroes after some idiot superheroes caused an accident that killed some bystanders. Then there's Man of Steel and Batman vs. Superman, where many DC fans protested at Superman and Zod destroying Metropolis in their fight, and in the next movie, Batman got mad at Superman because the latter is powerful enough to level a city, which Bruce couldn't stand.
Regarding Kripke appealing to realism in his show, the Boys, as I said before, is unrealistic. If something like Compound V actually existed, there's no fucking way in hell the Feds would allow it to remain in private hands. They'd remember what happened when nuclear secrets were allowed to slip out of the country and that potentially led to nuclear war between different nations, so they'd put the full formula of Compound V under lock and key. At most, they'd allow a weaker version of V to leak out for private entities to use, but the actual formula that can create guys like Homelander, the Feds would never allow it to be privatized.
If superheroes were a real thing, and they can be powerful enough to level cities, they'd be strictly under government control, like the Marvel Civil War era, or in anime series such as One Punch Man or My Hero Academia, where the superheroes are strictly regulated and no superhero is allowed to engage in vigilante justice on their own accord. So when Kripke appeals to realism to justify his show about how bad supes are, I'd just like to point out that, aside from his show being hilariously unrealistic, other shows have done a better job.
