The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

[AnaV]

Anybody give a listen to the audio drama? Just found out earlier this week that it existed and it's honestly got some decent voice acting. Sticks strictly to the comics though.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Tell me WHY THE FUCK does the US government refuse to allow supes in the army? Supes are fucking lethal weapons! With them they can end any conflict they want in seconds. This is United States were talking about, the global superpower that will assrape any country that even touches them (and also anything that can make them money)

Because the US government is not in control of supes and supes do not answer to anyone but vought. Allowing supes in the military means that defacto the united states military is now owned (not ran, OWNED) by vought. Its more or less complete privization of national defence to a privately owned mercenary force. I hope I don't have to explain why that's a really bad idea.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

Not to mention she was the most Jewish-looking Nazi ever.

So she is a Jewzi?

 

[Samuel Fuller]

So she is a Jewzi?

It would appear so.

I mean, we have all heard of self-loathing jews, so I suppose it makes SOME kind of sense, but she still did a shit job in the role.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Because the US government is not in control of supes and supes do not answer to anyone but vought. Allowing supes in the military means that defacto the united states military is now owned (not ran, OWNED) by vought. Its more or less complete privization of national defence to a privately owned mercenary force. I hope I don't have to explain why that's a really bad idea.

It would have been better if Vought was facing a possible nationization of their company due to national security risks due to Compound V.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

It would have been better if Vought was facing a possible nationization of their company due to national security risks due to Compound V.

Yeah in real life the goverment would either take over or drone strike them back to the stone age and then ban Supers.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Yeah in real life the goverment would either take over or drone strike them back to the stone age and then ban Supers.

The government can't do that because Vought has homelander.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The government can't do that because Vought has homelander.

Except Homelander was made way later in Vought's existence. If anything, the Feds would've nationalized Compound V like they did with the nukes even as early as the Cold War. Once Compound V is proven to work with heroes like Soldier Boy, the Feds would lock it down and not even let Vought become a private entity.

The worldbuilding of both the comics and the show makes no fucking sense. Something as powerful as Compound V would've been treated like the nuclear bomb. There would be no private firms handling it; the Feds would've kept it under wraps and only allow companies to work with it if they had the government's blessing.

 

[Local Farmer]

we'd at least have a fun fight to watch, not that western writers know or care about writing or depicting cool fights.

I’m convinced that if MM and Butcher picked up a couple of hard beefy Niggas and hooked them up on Temp V they could have jumped Fraudlander in season 4

Would it be satisfying? Probably not

Would it be better? Yes, yes absolutely

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I’m convinced that if MM and Butcher picked up a couple of hard beefy Niggas and hooked them up on Temp V they could have jumped Fraudlander in season 4

Would it be satisfying? Probably not

Would it be better? Yes, yes absolutely

They could've done that as early as Season 3, when Temp V was introduced, and when Queen Maeve was stealing vials of it to give to Butcher and the gang.

Get a bunch of Starlighters who are buff, and good with martial arts.

Dose them up with Temp V, have them join Butcher and Maeve when they confront Homelander with Soldier Boy.

Have Maeve grab Ryan, then let SB, Butcher, and the Starlighters rip Homelander to shreds.

Everything after Season 3 was filler. Season 3 should've been the end of Homelander, and Season 4 should've set up Vought and Stan Edgar as the real villain, which culminates in Season 5. They could still give Anthony Starr some work; he could always play a clone of Homelander that Stan and Vought were developing behind closed doors, and have the clone be a perfected killing machine, not a whining baby brat who wants to drink fresh titty milk. Instead, he's a good soldier who follows orders.

There you go. I just solved this show's writing problems again.

 

[sixuglymidgets]

Except Homelander was made way later in Vought's existence. If anything, the Feds would've nationalized Compound V like they did with the nukes even as early as the Cold War. Once Compound V is proven to work with heroes like Soldier Boy, the Feds would lock it down and not even let Vought become a private entity.

The worldbuilding of both the comics and the show makes no fucking sense. Something as powerful as Compound V would've been treated like the nuclear bomb. There would be no private firms handling it; the Feds would've kept it under wraps and only allow companies to work with it if they had the government's blessing.

Exactly the cia would definitely use it to enforce their own agenda like they do now but now they have superpowers

 

[Commander X]

Kripke's pitch for the show has been released and it's very...well.

"If you're easily offended, we should stop the pitch now."

:record scratch: Yeah, this ain't your daddy's TV show pitch!

 

[God of Nothing]

Kripke's pitch for the show has been released and it's very...well.

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"If you're easily offended, we should stop the pitch now."

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:record scratch: Yeah, this ain't your daddy's TV show pitch!

for a second i thought that was actually written by garth ennis

 

[regalterry]

Kripke's pitch for the show has been released and it's very...well.

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"If you're easily offended, we should stop the pitch now."

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:record scratch: Yeah, this ain't your daddy's TV show pitch!

The whole pitch makes no sense, since most Marvel and DC capes had training and/or useful knowledge before becoming superheroes, or trained afterwards.

You could probably point at the likes of Spiderman just winging it, but even then the story points out the tragic consequences of doing so when Gwen dies.

The rest of the Marvel roster tend to be exceptionally trained professionals (Captain America, Punisher, Black Widow, Hawkeye), skilled warriors from a warrior culture like Thor, in training like the X-Men to better control their powers and use them for good, or simply a bunch of highly intelligent nerds that can use their superior intellect to work through a problem.

DC goes even further than that.

At no point are DC or Marvel capes portrayed as amateurish or incompetent. Many do operate outside the law, but that doesn't make them buffoons, and governments in both settings do have their own capes (that more often than not team up with the vigilantes, or recruit them for missions).

Garth Ennis always had this weird idea of capeshit that only seems to exist in his head.

Even the Watchmen, of whom most are just regular humans, were portrayed to be at least competent enough not to get innocents hurt by their own mistakes.

 

[BiggestKai]

look
ennis is kind of fucking retarded and thinks being bulletproof and able to fly wouldn't be beneficial in a war

Rereading Hitman you kind of understand his thought process. If he's not ex-military, wearing a black trenchcoat and has a gun then the character in question is a toothless pussy who isn't a REAL man like the military men he clearly worships. Having superpowers from birth=surely no one will bother training you for the military.

A bit autistic but again I do want to see someone tackle this story of superpowers in a military setting and just go all in on the world building. How would they design tactics and combat doctrines around it, how would they design counter tactics, how would spy craft and intelligence gathering be affected? How would the war industry as a whole be affected by it? Would there be conventions against sending supes to fight in civilian areas? Would wars even exist or would the superpowered soldiers be so powerful and omnipresent that a couple of a country's strongest supes duking it out in a ring determines the victor of a war?
I get Ennis wanted to shit all over Captain America because he thinks it's an insult to WW2 troops but still can't fault me for wanting something else.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

The whole pitch makes no sense, since most Marvel and DC capes had training and/or useful knowledge before becoming superheroes, or trained afterwards.

You could probably point at the likes of Spiderman just winging it, but even then the story points out the tragic consequences of doing so when Gwen dies.

The rest of the Marvel roster tend to be exceptionally trained professionals (Captain America, Punisher, Black Widow, Hawkeye), skilled warriors from a warrior culture like Thor, in training like the X-Men to better control their powers and use them for good, or simply a bunch of highly intelligent nerds that can use their superior intellect to work through a problem.

DC goes even further than that.

At no point are DC or Marvel capes portrayed as amateurish or incompetent. Many do operate outside the law, but that doesn't make them buffoons, and governments in both settings do have their own capes (that more often than not team up with the vigilantes, or recruit them for missions).

Garth Ennis always had this weird idea of capeshit that only seems to exist in his head.

Even the Watchmen, of whom most are just regular humans, were portrayed to be at least competent enough not to get innocents hurt by their own mistakes.

Counterpoint: Ambush Bug!

 

[Cryogonal2]

"If you're easily offended, we should stop the pitch now."

there is no way that is real

 

[God of Nothing]

A bit autistic but again I do want to see someone tackle this story of superpowers in a military setting and just go all in on the world building. How would they design tactics and combat doctrines around it, how would they design counter tactics, how would spy craft and intelligence gathering be affected? How would the war industry as a whole be affected by it? Would there be conventions against sending supes to fight in civilian areas? Would wars even exist or would the superpowered soldiers be so powerful and omnipresent that a couple of a country's strongest supes duking it out in a ring determines the victor of a war?

Warhammer 40k already exists
granted, it's not really smartly written in that regard but it at least tries

 

[The greater a'tuin]

The nursery home episode got me thinking elderly superheroes aren't tackled often. Of course this show wastes it on lame dick jokes, but what does it look like for superpowers to atrophy with age? Can you even get arthritis when your bones could support the weight of a truck? Does reduced cardiovascular capacity affect the ability to fly? Maybe such answers would have ruined the clumsy narrative mandate of Bombsight giving up immortality, or how agelessness was never pursued further despite being the most sought invention in human history.

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

People liking Rorschach should not make Moore upset. It should make him happy because of how well he understood someone who doesn’t think like him at all.

Except he wasn't trying to understand Rorschach, he was trying to paint him as a strawman. That's why Moore is so bootyblasted and keeps grumbling that no one "gets it." You weren't supposed to think Rorschach had a point at all, you were supposed to clap and cheer he got blipped by Dr. Manhattan.