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This is coming along swimmingly, the "debate threads" and simps willing to die on a hill Isabella won't even fight on have been quality content.

WOW, such an universal dissaproval. With so much flank I must be hitting the target pretty acurately
Remember the Entersphere? Or the salt mines? Boards come and go.
 
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Based on her treatment of animals, Bella is a psychopath. Not surprising coming from a child of a glowie, since it’s not as if glowies and military veterans were exemplary humans to begin with anyway.
 
The basic outline of facts is just straight up "too strange to be fake" territory. The veracity of every single detail I imagine will take some time to pin down. And I'm not even ruling out some wild twists at some point, just none of the "ZOMG BELLA IS INNOCENT" or "ZOMG IT WAS THE TRANNIES ALL ALONG" type.
Oh no.
Not saying she’s innocent or fake.
Just with every next detail that emerges of just HOW degenerate she is I wonder just how someone so dumb managed to achieve this 🤷‍♂️

TL,DR: is there some guy sitting in a corner somewhere smoking Morley’s we don’t know about
 
Honestly, I think we are at bottom of iceberg now, I dont think we will really see anything really new or mindblowing now, perhaps just some university gossips which ... bah, dont care. I have been following this since early days and honestly it did bring a good dose of entertainment, but on main thread I been multiple times bit of buzzkill because after seeing it in past I am quite sceptical of hysteria and hype.

So to summarize what I think now that everything that could go out is out (IMO) what we see in the Discord Trolls is not some "face of all evil" or such pathoses but simply shitty kids who think being edgelords constitute for personality. And on top of that being convinced that just because they were born post 9/11 and grew up around apps and smartphones they are ultimate hackors and shieet, while having net literacy of 8 year old kazachstani kid from steppe, making leaks extremely easy. If they havent done some things they either certainly or very likely did, I would just feel pity because this lifestyle of being internet avatar IRL eventually comes bite back in the ass. Maybe they can use this, instead of digging deeper hole in that, and actually take it as wake up call and, for risk of sounding ancient, pick the fucking act up.

As for acts I would divide them into three categories - confirmed, likely and bullshits. Much of hype been driven about the last one. I also dont include acts I personally dont care about, ie the faking of ID, underage drinking (seriously, who cares?) or telling troonie student she is not a real man (you arent, deal with it). You may, I dont.

Fucking with Chris for kicks is, of course, confirmed. While actual intent for Chris to pull hero is so retarded that I find it very hard to believe its geniune and not just, again, some edgelordery. Chris got told to neck himself perhaps a billion times and still preffered to live a life where he porks his mom. For him to pull a hero you would have to shatter his escapist cope, task which for quite some time was just deemed impossible by anyone. Again, Chris is the person who few days ago, before judge when facing no-bail jail with certainty of years behind bars started shouting over his lawyer and stomping feet because judge wouldnt allow him to bring his toys with him. Trying to convince him that someone is a Jesus who then tells him he sucks? Chris fucking thinks he is a god, he wouldnt even register it. Notion that Discord Trolls pushed Chris into idea (or even blackmailed him into) fucking his mom was a massive reach from the start and as all logs became public I think we can close chapter on it as not true. Bella and rest all seem genuienly surprised when Chris confessed to fucking Barbs so pre-mediation is off the table. Then there is sitting on info. They sat on it for few days, that is undisputed fact. Now if Bella and others would say that they done so because they were flabbergasted by entire situation? I could buy it. Although nothing in log indicates they were talking about how to release the info to police department, which is something that has to be done. And no, just "leaking it" is not the same shit. I also do accept possibility that they were sitting on it because they were coopting a retarded plan to pull a gayop and use the info against Chris in some way, but its still a reach and unconfirmed. Other possibility is that they were thinking how to remove their personal info from the leak so they dont get entangled, which if is the case backfired just splendidly. This could be cleared by Bella and co, but for that they would also have to admit that they did fuck up and not try to paint themselves as eternal victims in everything as they tried to do, pathetically, in that google doc.

Animals. First, the hamster. I thought its another reach based on edgelordery. Turns out it wasnt. I dont even know what to say on that. I spent large chunk of my childhood on uncles farm, grandfather took my on hunts when I barely could hold shotgun, slaughtered animals before I knew how to write. And there are ways you do it and ways you dont. And there are reasons why you do it and reasons why you dont. You boiled rodent alive, from what I can see, for nothing else but some boner. I dont even want to know how many times, preffer to think it was just once althought it virtually certainly wasnt. Every normal butcher or farmer can smell degenerates who want the job because they get kick out of it from mile away and send them packing the moment they enter premise. You did that and fuck yourself for it. Next is Max and thats a reach that I think is a reach. From first hand account you guys genuienly rescued a dog in peril and tried to bring him to shelter ASAP but were unable to. Also per Allen account dog already had problems with legs. Then we have two accounts who were closely affiliated with it, but didnt see it first hand that dog was rehoused and one account, who allegedly was personally affiliated, saying that dog was brought to vet who had to put him down because infection in legs was too spread out and only amputation was the option which in case of rescue is death sentence anyway. I wouldnt rule out that later happened and Zorg and Allen got told he was rehoused in order to spare their feelings. Anyway, mistreatment of dog or his abuse are until now reach and werent confirmed by nothing so I put it in third category.

Various fetishes and degeneracy - on that, the fuck is wrong with you? Go outside, touch fucking grass and unfuck yourself. Is this where this zoomer addiction on internet edgelordery ends? Christ. This is something you can fix in 24 fucking hours if you want to. Being covered in shit and piss is not "edgy", its mark of degenerate.

And then there is various harrasment and suicide claims. The suicide is massive reach. It really went on with speculation and no corraborative evidence. The harrasment claims seems a fix of gossip drama and kids being cunts. Difficult to distinguish between the two as they merge all the time.

All in all, it brought good chunk of entertainment to me so theres that positive. And if Discord Trolls are reading this - you wont go to jail, just wont happen. I dunno if you will get expelled from uni, at this point uni may deem you too much of a problem to be worth it and none could really blame them. In any case, no your "life" isnt over. If anything you just proved repeatedly you dont know shit about it or anything. You do have a chance to unfuck yourself, you wouldnt be first cow(s) to do so. Hell, Null even several times removed thread of a cow if he deemed they did a turnaround. Go volunteer at animal shelter, at least would make some amend that way, kill that online personas you have, work with your hands and get off the rooms. Shower. See dermatologist. If you get shafted from uni, try applying again later. Or dont. See Yaniv and others were untreatened degeneracy leads.

Up to you.
 
The entire message is smart and not gay at all. It's true that it would have to be extremely contrived plot (and for what purpose?), but I would point out just one thing:
- Forging those logs alone would be quite the undertaking and doing so in a psychologically consistent manner would take an artist.
This forum has already once been fooled by an elaborate autistic trolling op that spanned years
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Just to remind you that "too elaborate" or "too long running" might not be an issue for some crazy fuck trying to ruse everyone.
 
I'm taking this Portobella thing with a grain of salt, I mean don't you guys have the feeling that everything is adding up so well? Like pieces on a puzzle. I'm mostly eskeptical of this events since ARGs and alterfiction came to popularity.

Edit: Sorry guys, wrote this thing under the influence of sleeping pills and autism
 
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I feel a need to point out in many cases, the surest sign that the Discord Logs are real is timestamps.

Back during GG, when the CON logs dropped, the go-to defense was that they were faked, because by all accounts, there was no way to confirm any of it, or at least that was the argument of the people trying to defend the morons in them. Naturally, at least one person in said CON logs confirmed they were true immediately, since they were in the fucking things, but let's assume that you still didn't buy that. Let's assume that you were subscribing to the most beneficial interpretation of the events in the logs. Is there a way to prove authenticity?

Yes. There absolutely is. Because anyone trying to fake them would also need to fake the timestamps, which would require such a level of precision, care, and Autistic attention to detail so glaring in its minutae that they can only be legitimate. In the logs, you can see in real time, shit they're responding to and discussing: Twitter posts, entries on Wikipedia, Youtube Videos, and more, and the timestamps line up exactly. In many cases, the timing of what they're discussing going up so perfectly lines up with the timestamps that there is no possible way you can fake them, because that would require someone to perfectly line up - in real time - shit that was going down on like six seperate websites.

Keep your eyes peeled in the logs for things like hyperlinks, especially in regards to social media posts, youtube/dailymotion/bitchute links, and so on - because they're your surest way to prove these things to normies, since that shit is, by and large, impossible to fake in real time like this.
 
I'm taking this Portobella thing with a grain of salt, I mean don't you guys have the feeling that everything is adding up so well? Like pieces on a puzzle. I'm mostly eskeptical of this events since ARGs and alterfiction came to popularity.
I mean it's not a fucking ARG, unless the entire Janke family has been fabricated. No one would put this much heat on their family, no one would incriminate their families. The only motive I could see right now is if someone has a beef with the glowdaddy and wants to use his retarded, BPD, abusive trainwreck of a daughter to smear his name for good. It's in the gist of highlighting Bella's shitty behaviour, adding some spice to make her even more despicable and putting it on a platter for the internet to see. This is already deep in the tinfoil territory.
 
I'm taking this Portobella thing with a grain of salt, I mean don't you guys have the feeling that everything is adding up so well? Like pieces on a puzzle. I'm mostly eskeptical of this events since ARGs and alterfiction came to popularity.
Skepticism is great, but for me it seems far more likely that a bunch of edgy zoomers and their severely mentally damaged ringleader trolled Chris and thought it would be an le epic troll to fuck with him without any regards to moral or common decency. Then the one of them that did have a functioning moral compass leaked the audio, and the massive response to the news of noted internet celebrity CWC raping his mom led to autists scrutinizing the group. And since they were just retarded wannabe edgelords they fell apart under it.

To me it seems completely "organic". That everything is adding up and we have constant leaks just further reinforces my belief that this isn't some super gayop, but instead a bunch of dimwits thinking they're untouchable and getting into a situation far far out of their depths. If it all was planned this way, then I'd suspect Praetor or a similar group. And to be fair, @Psychic Espeon got indicated in all this. But I doubt he'd be this sloppy with his ties if he planned to let them take the fall.
 
This is definitely the case now. I had to get involved because I've seen Bellas before and I've seen them rip apart good people and ruin otherwise productive lives.
Thats the thing - people like Bella have existed for a long, long time. To me, it's actually really sad to see posts saying that they have lost sleep etc because if you have ever seen someone trapped in an abusive relationship, all of these deep dive conspiracies, tracking her every move, wanting to expose her, contacting her parents, scouring discord logs and creating insinuations upon a single sentence -some that exist out of context due to multiple ways the group contacted each other.

The people still actively working on this in-depth are victims of Bella's abuse. If one has never experienced this before and it's your first introduction to it existing in life, you're probably lucky because you didn't end up in the Discord server. But see how easy it is to become fascinated with people like this? Within a week, hundreds of people know all these details about her life and are eager for more. Even if its a train wreck.

People like Bella target weak and vulnerable people like Chris, Louis, Fiona and Allen. Each of them has vulnerabilities easily exploited and at this age, she has enough experience to instigate that exploitation within the first conversation.

Its not illegal to emotionally and mentally exploit someone. According to some posts, irs not illegal or a priority of punishment to kill hamsters. It's not illegal to talk to an autistic person on the phone or doctor text messages to send to your stupid friends. The school legitimately needs all parties involved to be involved in an investigation because the school is not the law and even if she gets kicked out of this school, she can pay to go to another one somewhere else because most schools at the end of the day are pay to play regardless of your background. She also has a background that would allow her to work remotely and with some finagling, create a new identity without legal means and what comes with that so getting a job will be easy. It's not illegal to say stupid things on the internet unless you're making a direct threat of life and even then it's only illegal about 1% of the time it happens online.

Her gas lighting has in turn made part of the forums look crazy because of the massive obsession with her. It is now SUPER EASY for her to spin the public narrative once the initial heat dies down because some people spent multiple sleepless hours obsessed with toe fungus, a potential dead dog, her breasts, anyone she has ever encountered, any event she attended etc and she did this on purpose because she knows how to do it and that's why Allen and Louis exist. They are not simps. They are trapped in co-dependent abusive relationships and seemingly mirroring her behavior to escape her wrath. There is zero question how she got others involved because there's an entire forum that organically sprung up dedicated to becoming involved with her.

I've been in a similar situation with a sociopathic abuser who does things that are so unbelievable it seems it cannot be true. Because of that - its actually very hard to convince others to care about what happened because they either don't believe it to be true or are unwilling to accept its true due to it shaking their core belief of human nature. Bella uses this to her advantage so she can make others look absolutely crazy for talking about hamster killing, rolling in piss etc. and you can see this in her Google Docs attempt to cover herself.

I was lurking KF heavily since January and made an account earlier this summer after assuming there was content I couldn't see as an unregistered lurker and I find human nature really fascinating so I appreciate the archival efforts and discussion around some of the strangest or most offensive people online.

My first posts have been about ILJ because even I in some ways became obsessed for my own personal reasons as I mentioned in my previous post. But now I am seeing the similarities of people who are unknowingly allowing themselves to be abused, even if its at a distance like this. And its kind of concerning. I know I'm supposed to believe everyone on KF are thick skinned meanies and bullies but some of ya'll just seem like good, unsuspecting people getting taken for a ride. That's why some people feel this is "too good to be true" or a "conspiracy" when even with the CIA parents, that's an extremely hard stretch that I won't even feel bad for being naive about on the .000001% chance it could even be true.

Anyways I'm not saying she didn't do awful things to people - she probably really did and anyone that feels upset by that has a right to feel like that. I think its just time to be realistic and start cutting ties with abuse. I kind of commend Null for not advertising this as it's kind of like putting a video of someone punching their spouse in the face on the front page with no context. Very heavy stuff here.
 
Even if she doesn’t end up facing any legal trouble, could you imagine being in her shoes, showing up on campus after all this shit, everyone knowing your disgusting fetishes, animal abuse stories and terribly bad hygene….,then again she seems to love attention even if it is bad
 
Oh no.
Not saying she’s innocent or fake.
Just with every next detail that emerges of just HOW degenerate she is I wonder just how someone so dumb managed to achieve this 🤷‍♂️

TL,DR: is there some guy sitting in a corner somewhere smoking Morley’s we don’t know about

Dumb and cruel, separately or together, thrive in the real world. Only on the internet do these characteristics seem to gain attention and therefore condemnation. I assure you even as you read this, some asshole kid is telling someone to kill themselves, but it isn't being memorialized in media, and therefore might just as well have never happened, even if the harassed party obliges.

And if Discord Trolls are reading this - you wont go to jail, just wont happen. I dunno if you will get expelled from uni, at this point uni may deem you too much of a problem to be worth it and none could really blame them. In any case, no your "life" isnt over. If anything you just proved repeatedly you dont know shit about it or anything. You do have a chance to unfuck yourself, you wouldnt be first cow(s) to do so. Hell, Null even several times removed thread of a cow if he deemed they did a turnaround. Go volunteer at animal shelter, at least would make some amend that way, kill that online personas you have, work with your hands and get off the rooms. Shower. See dermatologist. If you get shafted from uni, try applying again later. Or dont. See Yaniv and others were untreatened degeneracy leads.

Up to you.

True, mostly, for better or for worse. If any of you had grandiose plans to become doctors, lawyers or FBI Agents, you should probably forget those; outside of that, so long as you can behave like a normal, functional adult going forward (and I do believe you know exactly how to do that), you should be able to live a normal, functional life. Sure, all this might come up again to bite you, maybe more than once. That's the price you pay.
 
All the shit she did sounds so ridiculously evil that I would have a hard time believing it if not for the mountains of verifiable evidence.
 
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My 2 cents. Lot of people think that the government or big business plan of attack is to have you shut down. The reality is (and you can point right to the last year regardless of politics and realize this is true) that what they actually do is basically out of the COINTELPRO handbook. They put out tons of supposed leaks and massive amounts of info so that nobody can figure out what the real info is. And if you can't figure out what the real info is, the real info won't make any difference. Not saying that happened here, but I will say that its pretty unusual to see bombshell after bombshell after bombshell come out in such a short period. Especially from the kid of two people who supposedly run companies in the industry that literally protects people from exactly this.

I would go so far as to say the DDOS was actually done to make people think it was the op, when the actual op was something much less obvious. Think of it like kicking in the front door and making a bunch of noise to distract everyone and having a couple of guys go in the back door at the same time quietly.
 
This. You don’t fuck with animals

Oh God no, they are going to make another retarded Netflix documentary with a bunch of autistic women LARPing as detectives.

With so much flank I must be hitting the target pretty acurately

With all that flank you’re just making an ass of yourself. Learn to spell nigga.

Even if she doesn’t end up facing any legal trouble, could you imagine being in her shoes, showing up on campus after all this shit, everyone knowing your disgusting fetishes, animal abuse stories and terribly bad hygene….,then again she seems to love attention even if it is bad

Can’t imagine her going back to TTU. The University is looking into the accusations. Even if everything said about her was false, even students are throwing her under the bus that it’s hard to imagine her being allowed back let alone wanting to go back. If she was my child I wouldn’t be letting her out of my sight for some time.
 
Late but thanks from a newfriend for the original thread. I’ve just been sitting back, observing and popping in throughout the days to see what’s new but, yeah, a breather is needed now and then. Animal abuse is a tough one to read about and why I’ve never managed to click things like the zoosadism thread on here.
 
Yaknow I'm honestly begining to think the only people that doubt this are buttmad Trump supporters.

Bella won't fuck you.

No lady will fuck you.

I will not fuck you.

You will die alone, sad and exhausted and when your parents hear they will be sad yes but primarily relieved they no longer need to give neetbucks to their precious 30 year old boy who lives in the bunk bed in the basement.

Cause I mean really, do your research before posting.

The only retards I've seen bitch about this are faggots who can't be fucked to read even the summary and go hurr durr too easy.

Maybe y'all are just dumb kek.

Edit: this was a joke but perhaps since someone took such offense to it, it's a bit true huh.
 
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Skepticism is great, but for me it seems far more likely that a bunch of edgy zoomers and their severely mentally damaged ringleader trolled Chris and thought it would be an le epic troll to fuck with him without any regards to moral or common decency. Then the one of them that did have a functioning moral compass leaked the audio, and the massive response to the news of noted internet celebrity CWC raping his mom led to autists scrutinizing the group. And since they were just retarded wannabe edgelords they fell apart under it.

To me it seems completely "organic". That everything is adding up and we have constant leaks just further reinforces my belief that this isn't some super gayop, but instead a bunch of dimwits thinking they're untouchable and getting into a situation far far out of their depths. If it all was planned this way, then I'd suspect Praetor or a similar group. And to be fair, @Psychic Espeon got indicated in all this. But I doubt he'd be this sloppy with his ties if he planned to let them take the fall.

Trust but verify. When I first started seeing the bella shit, I grain of salted it, took it at face value but as more and more logs came out one by one things started showing that this shit has some validity to it. Add in the fact you had 2 other people Zoe and Roman go on video to talk about her in front of the world via youtube leads me even more to believe what we have here is factual.

Fuck I never thought chris-chan saga would take us to this point.
 
Trust but verify. When I first started seeing the bella shit, I grain of salted it, took it at face value but as more and more logs came out one by one things started showing that this shit has some validity to it. Add in the fact you had 2 other people Zoe and Roman go on video to talk about her in front of the world via youtube leads me even more to believe what we have here is factual.

Fuck I never thought chris-chan saga would take us to this point.
A lot of the Bella stuff I believe, but things I think were a big mistake are the following: Editing the log images etc to be her name instead of one of the aliases. This was done for convenience however the names were all legit connected, so why not just lay the breadcrumbs and let people follow instead of tainting evidence? Also in the last few days in the thread about her dad, suddenly everyone was saying he basically "had" to abuse her etc. There's never been any evidence of that, so saying it really just does nobody any good. Her dad might be a bad guy or he could be a good guy, but we don't know and it's not helpful to say he did things if there's zero proof or evidence of it or even accusations (outside of literally these threads). Again, not even defending the dude in general but there's no proof he's involved in any of this at all to my knowledge and def no evidence of abuse to Bella. She might just be a bad seed, it happens.
 
Even if she doesn’t end up facing any legal trouble, could you imagine being in her shoes, showing up on campus after all this shit, everyone knowing your disgusting fetishes, animal abuse stories and terribly bad hygene….,then again she seems to love attention even if it is bad
Bella doesn't care. With these nutty Cluster B girls, there is no such thing as bad attention. The one sentiment I disagree with in these thousands of posts is of trying to shame her, and try lecturing her on what will happen to her. Her mind doesn't even grasp these things, and she really thinks retards are bringing that up.
 
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