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Excerpted from a PM that I received which lead me to do quite a bit of thinking. Given the increasingly dramatic nature of our situation here, one would be foolish not to think about this kind of thing. Similarly to when I was accused of misidentifying the voice in the tape it gave me a feeling in the pit of my stomach until I took some time out to reason through the situation.
Typing as I think to a degree:
The stuff has definitely been getting darker and more depraved and has been doing so in an increasingly insane manner. I grant you that. I believe however that Bella has done a lot of this shit although I believe it entirely possible that elements here and there could very well be Bella wearing an edgy persona. For some things more than others it is possible to point to additional evidence pro or con here. The other kids of course are not obviously not people who can be relied upon to tell the truth 100%, but the impression that I get is that their accounts line up pretty darn well with one another and with the logs. This keeping in mind that this has taken place in front of half the Internet so there are a lot of eyeballs running over this stuff quite intensely to find contradictions.
I am honestly no longer involved in gathering information or even collating it I just try to do jannie shit really and help people calm down and figure shit out. I am exhausted from running on empty doing this shit the first few days let alone now. I believe that some things will have to shake out in the end but that the basic thrust of everything is gonna be true. That's a matter for the criminal justice system though.
If this is a gay op it is a gay op on an extremely large scale that feels beyond a bunch of kids, and in fact the case against this possibility is even stronger than that. Let me break down my thinking.
- Forging those logs alone would be quite the undertaking and doing so in a psychologically consistent manner would take an artist and as pointed out by @Jaimas, the logs are also internally consistent as to timestamps which would be exceedingly difficult to fake on so wide a basis.
- Even though some research has been done by newfags it has been largely at least checked in bits and pieces by oldfags so I do not see there being some kind of entryist conspiracy to defraud the Farms on the part of trannies mad over byuu or something like that.
- The very fact that the investigation has a shitload of moving parts actually points to it's legitimacy. I think I want to believe people aren't this depraved too but I also can't see myself to believing this is constructed.
- Remember that Bella was found completely organically which means not only that an elaborate troll op "from a seed of actual wrongdoing" would have to have been planned in a matter of days including the most surreal elements like the Navy SEAL Father. And likewise a countertrolling operation by the Chess Club, people with much fewer resources and who are much, much stupider than our hypothetical trannies, would've likewise had to have constructed this whole elaborate house of cards in just a few days. This just doesn't feel possible.
- As for stuff being added to the mix, most of the new material I think is pointed to by the old and as I understand it the identities of the principals are well-verified by everyone, they certainly have been when I dealt with them. Certain material (like a portion of the leaks where Louis and Bella discuss counter-Kiwi operations and fail hilariously) has been independently leaked by more than one source.
- This is not even getting into the fact that Bella (a) acts guilty as hell and (b) in various episodes is said to behave in a way that is psychologically consistent across said episodes.
You can see the differences in behavior dramatically. When the "Kelly Osborn" (fail)dox dropped she and Louis rushed to the Farms to troll and fuck with us. Not even getting into the fact that she probably signed her own social/reputational "death" warrant by doing so, the difference is obvious between that swaggering (but retarded) Bella and the plaintive, manipulative Bella who showed up only after her father was doxed, and the absolutely hysterical, irrational and amphetamine-addled Bella who showed up a few days later. This alone is good evidence that there's something real going on here.
Even if Bella were a mild deviant I think her negotiation strategy would have shifted at least by the halfway point. It did not. She remained in deny, deny, deny mode. While part of that can be chalked up to personality disorder even people with personality disorders usually have a basic sense of self-preservation when the chips are down, suicidal posturing aside. Looking at it in this light Bella's refusal to admit to absolutely anything is symptomatic perhaps less of a personality issue and more of the fact that she knows what will happen if stuff starts getting out and has no other option than to go full scorched earth.
So by excluding other possibilities I guess that I believe that someone really is out there who is this depraved or at least speaks as if she is this depraved. I believe that we have an accurate picture of who we are dealing with and her general pattern of behavior although in a legal sense of course everything remains an allegation and it's not totally impossible that we've read a lie or two in logs or been told one. I just really hope that this scenario ends and winds up in the hands of competent authorities in the extremely near future so this shit can get shut down or at least reduced in, as you put it, temperature.
This is just my two cents I'm offering as I continue to become less and less directly involved in actually doing research on this matter. That's just something I don't have the stomach for anymore but I am incredibly humbled by the appreciation I've been shown for the role that I've played here and there. From here on in (and indeed for a while now) my interest is mainly in doing jannie shit and being there for people to talk to and bounce ideas off. Remember that I did not go looking for this AT ALL but rather thought I was on the trail of some random Chris ween.
So I'd ask that everyone please remember to take a breather and calm down. We're on this site for fun, or came here for fun at least. None of this is fun and I understand the impulse to want to see things through as much as anyone. But it is not psychologically healthy to become extremely invested in this stuff. I have experienced it myself. It's important to take care of yourself, though. It helps no one, not even the pets, to get obsessive online.
Thanks for listening!
Stuff in italics came up in the thread and I though tit important enough to mention up here.
Typing as I think to a degree:
The stuff has definitely been getting darker and more depraved and has been doing so in an increasingly insane manner. I grant you that. I believe however that Bella has done a lot of this shit although I believe it entirely possible that elements here and there could very well be Bella wearing an edgy persona. For some things more than others it is possible to point to additional evidence pro or con here. The other kids of course are not obviously not people who can be relied upon to tell the truth 100%, but the impression that I get is that their accounts line up pretty darn well with one another and with the logs. This keeping in mind that this has taken place in front of half the Internet so there are a lot of eyeballs running over this stuff quite intensely to find contradictions.
I am honestly no longer involved in gathering information or even collating it I just try to do jannie shit really and help people calm down and figure shit out. I am exhausted from running on empty doing this shit the first few days let alone now. I believe that some things will have to shake out in the end but that the basic thrust of everything is gonna be true. That's a matter for the criminal justice system though.
If this is a gay op it is a gay op on an extremely large scale that feels beyond a bunch of kids, and in fact the case against this possibility is even stronger than that. Let me break down my thinking.
- Forging those logs alone would be quite the undertaking and doing so in a psychologically consistent manner would take an artist and as pointed out by @Jaimas, the logs are also internally consistent as to timestamps which would be exceedingly difficult to fake on so wide a basis.
- Even though some research has been done by newfags it has been largely at least checked in bits and pieces by oldfags so I do not see there being some kind of entryist conspiracy to defraud the Farms on the part of trannies mad over byuu or something like that.
- The very fact that the investigation has a shitload of moving parts actually points to it's legitimacy. I think I want to believe people aren't this depraved too but I also can't see myself to believing this is constructed.
- Remember that Bella was found completely organically which means not only that an elaborate troll op "from a seed of actual wrongdoing" would have to have been planned in a matter of days including the most surreal elements like the Navy SEAL Father. And likewise a countertrolling operation by the Chess Club, people with much fewer resources and who are much, much stupider than our hypothetical trannies, would've likewise had to have constructed this whole elaborate house of cards in just a few days. This just doesn't feel possible.
- As for stuff being added to the mix, most of the new material I think is pointed to by the old and as I understand it the identities of the principals are well-verified by everyone, they certainly have been when I dealt with them. Certain material (like a portion of the leaks where Louis and Bella discuss counter-Kiwi operations and fail hilariously) has been independently leaked by more than one source.
- This is not even getting into the fact that Bella (a) acts guilty as hell and (b) in various episodes is said to behave in a way that is psychologically consistent across said episodes.
You can see the differences in behavior dramatically. When the "Kelly Osborn" (fail)dox dropped she and Louis rushed to the Farms to troll and fuck with us. Not even getting into the fact that she probably signed her own social/reputational "death" warrant by doing so, the difference is obvious between that swaggering (but retarded) Bella and the plaintive, manipulative Bella who showed up only after her father was doxed, and the absolutely hysterical, irrational and amphetamine-addled Bella who showed up a few days later. This alone is good evidence that there's something real going on here.
Even if Bella were a mild deviant I think her negotiation strategy would have shifted at least by the halfway point. It did not. She remained in deny, deny, deny mode. While part of that can be chalked up to personality disorder even people with personality disorders usually have a basic sense of self-preservation when the chips are down, suicidal posturing aside. Looking at it in this light Bella's refusal to admit to absolutely anything is symptomatic perhaps less of a personality issue and more of the fact that she knows what will happen if stuff starts getting out and has no other option than to go full scorched earth.
So by excluding other possibilities I guess that I believe that someone really is out there who is this depraved or at least speaks as if she is this depraved. I believe that we have an accurate picture of who we are dealing with and her general pattern of behavior although in a legal sense of course everything remains an allegation and it's not totally impossible that we've read a lie or two in logs or been told one. I just really hope that this scenario ends and winds up in the hands of competent authorities in the extremely near future so this shit can get shut down or at least reduced in, as you put it, temperature.
This is just my two cents I'm offering as I continue to become less and less directly involved in actually doing research on this matter. That's just something I don't have the stomach for anymore but I am incredibly humbled by the appreciation I've been shown for the role that I've played here and there. From here on in (and indeed for a while now) my interest is mainly in doing jannie shit and being there for people to talk to and bounce ideas off. Remember that I did not go looking for this AT ALL but rather thought I was on the trail of some random Chris ween.
So I'd ask that everyone please remember to take a breather and calm down. We're on this site for fun, or came here for fun at least. None of this is fun and I understand the impulse to want to see things through as much as anyone. But it is not psychologically healthy to become extremely invested in this stuff. I have experienced it myself. It's important to take care of yourself, though. It helps no one, not even the pets, to get obsessive online.
Thanks for listening!
Stuff in italics came up in the thread and I though tit important enough to mention up here.
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to you Spooky, thanks a lot for your time invested, unironically would have never sifted through that shit myself. Not gonna lie this past week has been fun but I feel partly invested due to the fact that I felt like I was apart of the sperg fest. We really are on borderline poop touching with reaching out to people related to her.
