Temperature (Response to a Concerned Reader) - Regarding credibility and credulity

[Bullooo]

It's all just compelling and salacious dramz if you can accept that there's a good chance that she will face zero consequences.

I'm sure there are some who can't accept that though, in which case, yeah, maybe take a step back. Maybe have a couple drinks and chill to spite this fungused teetotaler.

 

[QueenMegan]

Too many newfags flocking in here. This isn't a trolling website.
Don't interact with these people.
Just gather information (legally) and laugh at these retards

 

[Spooky Bones]

Bella and Allen talked about it for sure, and I believe it. As I understand it they would also needed to have him take anti-androgens for it to have too much effect.

Not to mention (and not to get too far into specifics) that HRT is typically estradiol not estrogen and the effect of oral dosing of unknown amounts of estrogen is an interesting medical question and more proof of how stupid they are. But I digress. I initially found it hard to believe that they would even have access to powdered/liquid estrogen but actually with their majors it does not seem impossible and it is actually ordered with relative ease online, so doesn't seem completely impossible. Just insane. So who knows. I suppose you have to read the logs and try to judge by cues and context which is hard enough with normal people who you do know while Bella is a serious clinical case who you don't. The only thing you can do is try to bring together the evidence as best you can and judge for yourself.

 

[Aldora]

I think all the new fags that came here because of Geno’s “documentary” need to go home to their mothers and come back when they have grown up.

 

[Calandrino]

The temperature went up so rapidly, so non-gradually, that everyone immediately noticed. Just like boiling a hamster...

 

[valid trans cutie]

So... would it be ok to start an Allen thread because I think it would be funny as shit if his ass got deported back to nigeria and he never got into med school because of this. Also sociopathic negroids don't need to become doctors.

An Allen thread would be nice. However not with the intent to get him deported and running a gayop. Rather a place to gather info on him and discuss the lolcow.

Not to mention (and not to get too far into specifics) that HRT is typically estradiol not estrogen and the effect of oral dosing of unknown amounts of estrogen is an interesting medical question and more proof of how stupid they are. But I digress. I initially found it hard to believe that they would even have access to powdered/liquid estrogen but actually with their majors it does not seem impossible and it is actually ordered with relative ease online, so doesn't seem completely impossible. Just insane. So who knows. I suppose you have to read the logs and try to judge by cues and context which is hard enough with normal people who you do know while Bella is a serious clinical case who you don't. The only thing you can do is try to bring together the evidence as best you can and judge for yourself.

Yes, I have no doubt they'd fail spectacular if that was their plan to "feminize" him. I've read the logs though, and to me it doesn't sound like they're even trying to make any jokes. It reads more like two people conspiring, and not laughing at the dumb shit they just said. That's why I personally believe it's for real.

 

[Jah Hates Kaffirs]

I think all the new fags that came here because of Geno’s “documentary” need to go home to their mothers and come back when they have grown up.

Gas the post-mergers.

 

[Spooky Bones]

An Allen thread would be nice. However not with the intent to get him deported and running a gayop. Rather a place to gather info on him and discuss the lolcow.

Yes, I have no doubt they'd fail spectacular if that was their plan to "feminize" him. I've read the logs though, and to me it doesn't sound like they're even trying to make any jokes. It reads more like two people conspiring, and not laughing at the dumb shit they just said. That's why I personally believe it's for real.

Yes. For the record to me it sounds nothing like jokes at all. It sounds like they are really doing it.

 

[Caesar]

I don’t think it’s a troll op, but a substantial portion of the crimes Bella is accused of seems like dumb 2edgyforu teen BS, like the hamster boiling and eating or dog paw amputation. But I do believe she wanted to blackmail and push Chris to do even more deranged and fucked up stuff.

I think she was enjoyed being an evil fuck to CWC and thought the motherfucker stuff would make her a troll legend. She was the new Idea Guys and deserves to be infamous for the sadistic BS she pulled.

Even though the hamsters sounds the craziest we actually have a screenshot on discord where they had a still of the boiling hamster, and Allen confessed to being there, on top of all their "joking" anout it - they even talked about it weeks later calling it a great day. The dog stuff and that yeah might not have a load of merit nor the 8 hamster thing, but it seems one very well may hav suffered

 

[Creepuscular]

The evidence such as it is has to be evaluated on merit.

Oh, totally!

I’m not calling the evidence into question. There’s more than enough of it that’s legit.

 

[Spooky Bones]

There’s “getting attention on the internet” and then there’s having your life essentially ruined. I guarantee you everyone even distantly related to her and has an internet presence as already been sent EVERYTHING.

I mean if you go to TTU’s Twitter every tweet from the past week has gotten numerous replies asking about ILJ.

I don’t think she is “getting off on all this attention”.

You can see the differences in behavior dramatically. When the "Kelly Osborn" (fail)dox dropped she and Louis rushed to the Farms to troll and fuck with us. Not even getting into the fact that she probably signed her own social/reputational "death" warrant by doing so, the difference is obvious between that swaggering (but retarded) Bella and the plaintive, manipulative Bella who showed up only after her father was doxed, and the absolutely hysterical, irrational and amphetamine-addled Bella who showed up a few days later. This alone is good evidence that there's something real going on here.

Even if Bella were a mild deviant I think her negotiation strategy would have shifted at least by the halfway point. It did not. She remained in deny, deny, deny mode. While part of that can be chalked up to personality disorder even people with personality disorders usually have a basic sense of self-preservation when the chips are down, suicidal posturing aside. Looking at it in this light Bella's refusal to admit to absolutely anything is symptomatic perhaps less of a personality issue and more of the fact that she knows what will happen if stuff starts getting out and has no other option than to go full scorched earth.

 

[Everynameistaken]

It's all just compelling and salacious dramz if you can accept that there's a good chance that she will face zero consequences.

I'm sure there are some who can't accept that though, in which case, yeah, maybe take a step back. Maybe have a couple drinks and chill to spite this fungused teetotaler.

I agree. I'm very suspect of the idea that any charges will come of this and I'd be okay simply knowing that everybody who does a Google search from here on out will associate her with shit, fungus, boiling hamsters, and retarded gay ops.

 

[Chemtrails]

Agree 100% with the OP. In my opinion, It is pertinent at this time to make sure allegations against all people involved are at least somewhat vetted. If not just to keep post quality high and disinfo low, then to avoid stroking Bella's ego - she clearly gets off on being seen as an evil arch-troll and doesnt at all mind being associated with edgy things, even among people that know her IRL. We may end up accidentally bolstering some of her tall tales.

Do I think Bella is morally reprehensible? Yes, absolutely, I think we have seen enough verified info to show she's a bad person. Do I think she's chopping dogs legs off like I have seen floated around? No, lol. But she'd probably like if you thought she did that. If you put that allegation next to a more credible one, it might just cause you to ignore everything on this site wholesale.

EDIT: Testimony about those involved in this against eachother also needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Pretty sure we've already shown some of the leakers to have lied about other things (Espeon being one). Everyone involved with insider info is trying to sell *their* story, not necessarily the truth, and this has to be kept in mind.

 

[Caesar]

Agree 100% with the OP. In my opinion, It is pertinent at this time to make sure allegations against all people involved are at least somewhat vetted. If not just to keep post quality high and disinfo low, then to avoid stroking Bella's ego - she clearly gets off on being seen as an evil arch-troll and doesnt at all mind being associated with edgy things, even among people that know her IRL. We may end up accidentally bolstering some of her tall tales.

Do I think Bella is morally reprehensible? Yes, absolutely, I think we have seen enough verified info to show she's a bad person. Do I think she's chopping dogs legs off like I have seen floated around? No, lol. But she'd probably like if you thought she did that.

There's a decent line to be struck I think between documenting what she has said in its entirety, and presenting it as credible. See the header on @Hot HOT HOTTTs sticky thread. I am not so sure she does like it as she thought she was anon but will she like it so much when she finishes uni in a year or two? Not so sure.

 

[Spooky Bones]

I completely agree, I just want to add that:

For the record, I believe these logs to be 100% authentic. However, taking a 99% authentic log and adding the 1% misinformation you want to spread is a good way to "clean" misinfo. But I don't think this happened here. Most of the heavy accusations have been confirmed by either multiple people or material info. It's just something I'd keep in mind for future leaks and unconfirmed suspect stuff.

While I am in no way contradicting you I'd like to note that poisoning logs lIke this wouldn't give an impression of psychologically consistent principals with similar patterns of speech, which is something readers will ultimately have to decide for themselves. I find things so far including third party reports to be extremely psychologically consistent.

 

[Crusader King 1]

The fact she doesn't admit to a single thing, and denies absolutely everything, is extremely suspicious. That's beyond bizarre.

 

[Bezmenov]

A lot of post-mergers need to lurk more; try to limit posting to when you think what you have is pertinent and maybe highlight-worthy. Saves everyone the nightmare of having to sift through 300+ pages of "Isabella Loretta Janke and her fungal toes are disgusting and I would not have sex with her" - we already got it, she's fucking gross. Let the professionals do their work, last thing I want to see is this fall by the wayside because the people doing the sifting are getting buried under shitposters who've never posted on a forum in their lives before.

Going back to reading the threads and keeping my yap shut now.

 

[Chemtrails]

will she like it so much when she finishes uni in a year or two? Not so sure.

She's a "woman in STEM" child of a (probable?) multimillionaire, well connected father. She will be fine. If anything, it makes for a nice story - a couple of yrs from now she can apologize, and write about about how she was entrenched in the evil, white supremacist culture of 4chan and other image boards - but managed to claw free after a decade of these dangerous sites radicalizing her.

She'll also have a job at one of glowdad's joints as well, and if not, I'm sure they'll put her up in a condo on their dime just to have her out of their sight.

The fact she doesn't admit to a single thing, and denies absolutely everything, is extremely suspicious. That's beyond bizarre.

I dont like to play internet psychiatrist, but this is what makes me think the lying is compulsive.
A smart person would admit to a few of the less serious allegations because it would make their denial of others somewhat more trustworthy. Think a "limited hangout".
"Yes that is me in those pictures... Yes I did post that picture of the boiling hamster, but I found that on 4chan... I was just being a dumb edgy idiot."
But instead, she denies everything. She could just be plain stupid, or the urge to lie could be so strong that she needs to do it no matter what - going as far as lying to people that KNOW HER IRL about a picture being of her - when they're clearly telling her that they know the picture is of her.

 

[Minecraft Axolotl]

This might be controversial of me to write but
While there is a difference of actually performing it and talking about doing something I do think the gravity of what these kids were talking about regardless of the extent of their actions is something that should be held accountable for in its own way.
Boasting about the things that have been mentioned in those logs and scheming things like this all come from a deeper darker place of the mind which is only the starting place for much worse crimes.
She decided to make the decision to gloat about these things while not so much publicly but in a way which the information she was saying could be spread and unsurprisingly its been spread. We sadly saw the hamster and the cat and I believe the majority of her confessions in that discord chat to be true but if they're not true then I hope this is all at least a wake up call for anyone who believes these things to be glorified.

There have been things said and done on these forums to these people which I don't agree with (mainly the doxxing), *the last thing I want to see is for anyone to get hurt
But I don't think the cataloguing and speculation are unwarranted considering the amount of questionable things that have come out.


That being said I have to agree to the notion of taking a step back from all of this as unsurprisingly it is effecting a lot of people in a lot of ways and everyone deserves to be at their best despite all the terrible things that happen in this world. To all that have been at, for lack of a better word, the center of this on this website please take care of yourselves first.

 

[CowBoyCormack]

I think all the new fags that came here because of Geno’s “documentary” need to go home to their mothers and come back when they have grown up.

My s/o brought me here, lurked for a year or so, and then after I made an account I found out that she doesn't even have one because shes not as autistic as me, so I just happened to stick around being the tard I am. Was a fun community to stumble upon. Im watching this breadtube Xanderhal interview at the moment, and actually do hope that someone picks up the hot potato, regardless of who it is, so we can go back to being more neutral and just observing and documenting like the good tards we should be. Breadtube hates people like me in general anyways, but let them take it over a bit more. We know how much they can dig in.

If the weens do try and throw someone else who is pretty innocent under the bus, thats when Im more there again.