The release of this remake has made me simultaneously witness the most heart-warming and most spergy nitpicky discussions in a good while and all for a franchise about a fox flying a spaceship.
Oh man if you think this autistic
It's the same fucking game with better visual and voice direction than the newest remake lmao
Hooray for you, I guess. You get to tell yourself this game is great (which, to be fair, it probably is only by virtue of being exactly the same game as it was in 1997 underneath it) and you get to pay $60 for it. Me, I'd rather be wrong and not paying exorbitant prices for the same old slop in new packaging
That doesn't mean that it's remotely hard to find. Go on eBay and you could probably find about 50 brand new or near new copies
I said that people who weren't satisfied with the remake would probably stick with the original but, even so, people discussing the game does not necessarily mean the game is popular or selling well. Most of the discourse around this game, that I've seen, is just 'Why did they make this?', 'Ugh, not Star Fox 64 again', 'The new character designs look ugly and uncanny', 'I can't believe this cost $60'
Oh wow! New modes! New control options! Wow! Forgive me for my ignorance! I hadn't realised just how much they'd innovated, with this remake
Because any discussion of Final Fantasy VII and its characters now tend towards discussion of the remake FFVII and the remake versions of the characters, and when you search online for FFVII, if you search on YouTube or whatever for FFVII cutscenes, you get the remake cutscenes and you get strategy guides and whatever, all to do with the remake
You're not really answering my question
That's my point. Command never hurt Star Fox 64 or the SNES original.
This is a hot take man. The returning cast sound really rough and the remastered visuals aren't great. It also doesn't help that there's no reason to use the 3D gimmick at all much like every 3DS title its the same issue with all the 3DS remakes were the implementations degraded a lot of the visual fidelity. There's a bunch of videos on the subject when the Majora's Mask 3DS remake came out . Once again I'm not a dubfag so the shitty voice direction of the 2026 remake didn't bother me but from what little I saw it just makes it sound like an average anime dub then a corny Saturday morning cartoon that the classic was going for.
If you have to go on ebay that means its not readily available and having to pay $50 for a game that's over a decade old is redundant if there's a new version of the same game out for the same price
Yes that is considered new innovations.Online multiplayer is a huge addition and adds to its longevity
How? The creator did the scenario and approved of everything that happened in Command that's different from FF7 Remake which was handled by a committee
I'll take a corny Saturday Morning Cartoon over a shitty, low effort anime English dub any day
Yes it does. eBay is a massive, multinational online ecommerce platform. When you can't find it, even on eBay, that means it's not readily available.
Who said anything about paying $50 for it? Most I've seen 64 3D go for is £30 and that's a new, sealed in box copy. You can buy just the cart for a lot less.
This is you right now
You still haven't really explained why that would make people think less of Star Fox 64. So the creators did a new game that people didn't like. How does that affect the old game?
A committee that consisted mostly of the same people who worked on the original, minus Sakaguchi
Can you blame me? I've lived through the release hype for all of the great video games. I've played and enjoyed them.
This is especially true and has muddied FF7 discourse. Every now and then when I was discussing the OG online, people -- likely newfags -- chimed in getting story details mixed up with 7R's logic. One in particular is Jenovaroth using the Sephi clones to travel around the globe or to project either of themselves onto the clones when originally, they were just mumbling retards doped up on little GPS J-cells leading them towards 5Groth tower, while Sephi was doing his best Superman impression using Jenova's body to zip across the sky. There are other examples, but I can't recall what they are atm.
You do you I guess. I'd rather a new game. There's Star Fox 64 3D for people who think the original Star Fox 64 looks too old
The 3DS game was cool. I liked it a lot.
The delivery of the "We're Star Fox" line here was incredibly fruity and something told me some flavor of gay was behind it. Glad to know I was correct.
Considering the remake makes the noob mistakes of the lines being so long, that they're automatically interrupted when another line HAS to come in, I don't think that would work well.
Well a lot of people will surprisingly not. The reason why the voice lines of the 64 games became memes wasn't because they were done well it was because they sounded silly and over the top. If they really gave that much of a shit about the voice cast why did they not care when they were replaced for years until their return in the 3DS remaster and Starlink which they ignored? Its just performative. Same thing happened when David Hayter returned in Metal Gear Delta
When something is on ebay it means its not readily available because it means you need to buy it at a second hand market because you're not getting it from and official store sealed. You're basically justifying the existence of this remake due to how poorly Nintento preserves their games.
Right now on ebay is $50 new same price as the remake. That's another thing about the second hand market is the fixed price rate unless you want to buy a used damaged copy. This is all for a inferior remaster btw
Pretty sure "ONLINE MULTIPLAYER" is not a new hat
You still haven't explain why FF7R, a complete separate game and story, would ruin the original FF7 by existing. You can ignore it and nothing changes
There's only like a few people who worked on the original involved in Remake and it has a different writing team entirely.
So it sold better than two games that sold like shit. In the YouKay. RightNot remotely a high bar since its the UK but you take what you can get
....it's a fucking rail shooter starring a cartoon fox and his woodland furry friends
It's not that they care about the original actors so much as it is that new actors sound shit, and at least Nintendo made the effort, with the 3DS version and Zero, to get the old actors back
First of all, people love Hayter and were outraged when he was replaced by Kiefer for MGSV. Secondly, Hayter didn't 'return' for Delta, Delta just recycled the PS2 audio.
I think you and I have a very different definition of 'readily available'
Well then look somewhere else because I've seen it for far cheaper
okI just did. FFVII Remake has the same title as the original, features the same characters and recounts the same events. If you search FFVII, you get news and information about the remake. If I go on YouTube, for example, and search 'Cloud Aerith Gold Saucer', of the top ten results 8 of them are the bloody remake and only two of them are from the original. The remake is clearly supplanting the original even if the original still is widely available.
Least of all Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshinori Kitase, Kazushige Nojima and Motomu Toriyama. The only people from the original who aren't working on the remake are Hironobu Sakaguchi (the father of Final Fantasy) and Nobuo Uematsu (beyond one track).
Star Fox and Metroid fans are the only subgroup of Nintendo fans that actually hate when their games perform well or maybe this is just another form of tortantic where if you doompost hard enough you'll probably get what you want
....that you're currently sperging over. The point is nobody took the voice acting in the original seriously back then and they were pretty much the standard not the exception when I listen to the voice acting in the remake I just hear generic anime voice acting which is standard now.
No they never gave a fuck until everyone said it was a problem same with the redesigns. But here's the thing sticking so close to the original did not help Zero whatsoever so this is just a case of a loud minority.
Hayter's performance was very diversive among fandom even back then because he could not emote to save his life and was phoning it in badly by Peace Walker. What Kojima did to him was shitty no doubt.
He did record new dialogue and was involved with the script touch ups actually I mean hus return was plastered all over the promotion for Delta annnnnndd nobody gave a shit kinda just proving that all that outrage was just performative.
And I can't find something immediately at the first hand market i.e. at the direct retailer then it's not readily available. Telling someone "just go to ebay bro" just justified the existence of the remake even more because Nintendo sure as fuck wont reprint new copies of the 3D version.
Considering all everyone has been talking about with this remake is the multiplayer. Concession accepted.
They DISTINCTLY subtitle the remake trilogy differently from the original (FF7REMAKE, FF7REBIRTH, FF7REVELATION) you would have to be a genuine RETARD to think they're the same.
Ah yes everyone's favorite character Chadley from the original or all these fan favorites that that the remake has given more spotlight to!
Wow its almost like the remake is newer and the algorithm is just always going to direct you to whatever is the latest trends just how I can search for Star Fox and see stuff directly from the remake and not the SNES game from 30+ years ago.
Did you forget about the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII?
Except that neither of them have performed well for a very very long time
You're the one sperging. You're the one complaining that the original voices were cartoony and unserious (this for a cartoon fox). You're not even denying that the new voices are shit, which begs the question of what it is you're arguing about
The fact that Star Fox Zero's character designs actually looked like fucking Star Fox and not some weird uncanny reimagining for Star Fox was not one of its problems.
Like hell it was. Hayter was immensely popular. To the point that fans have actually invented conspiracy theories as to why Kojima replaced him. Something to do with Kojima's ego being so big that he couldn't handle Hayter upstaging him
These were minor dialogue changes that probably went unnoticed by most players. The majority of the game still uses the PS2 audio. It's not like Twin Snakes where they re-recorded the entire thing (and the reaction to Twin Snakes as well as the fact that Snake Eater was probably recorded in a soundproof booth demonstrates exactly why they didn't re-record the audio for Delta)
Because A) it's still the same old audio they've been hearing since 2005, B) it's for an unnecessary remake of a game that's still widely available and C) more crucially, Hideo Kojima had absolutely nothing to do with the game whatsoever
My point was that anybody who wanted the 3DS version can easily get a copy. It's not hard to find.
Did I say that I think they're the same? No
So you're denying that Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aerith, Sephiroth, Zack, whoever else are all in the remake? That if I type in, say 'Aerith backstory' onto YouTube, I won't get the remake, the original will just come right up?
Yes, and it's fucking cancer. It's like when they made Ghostbusters 2016 and all the autocomplete results directed you to that, the shitty reboot that failed, rather than the original film, which people actually cared about
No, but I've tried to (Except Last Order. Last Order was fucking cool)
And in response to just pistisome news over its performance you had to make a snide remark like we get it you've made it very clear you'd rather just play the same game over and over ad nausea.
You are the only one sperging here my guy because I never complained about the old voice work at all just point out that reason why they became memes wasnt because they were good or well acted even if you want to try to draw a comparison its just the same shit different flavor.
And its the worst reviewed and worst selling Star Fox so nobody gives a fuck. This obsession over "not muh" is the reason why so many franchises are now dead and why companies aren't even listening to these retards anymore because they never put their money where they mouth is.
No this is cope because if that was case then why does the remake have a way better reception than Zero? Hell even the shit people were bitching about (the voice work and redesigns) are getting praised while Zero got shat on for being 64 AGAIN despite have way more deviations and story changes in comparison to the remake so its less about the controls being bad but more about all the elements in Zero culminating into a product that was less than satisfactory. Zero is a perfect example of when you try to pander you can still turn out shit because now 10 years later fan will still say the control scheme is the game's only problem.
Thats why his career went nowhere and Kojima next game will have that tranny from Euphoria
Nah they were pretty noticeable due to the fact that the remake was pretty slapdash and all and had some pretty godawful mixing and visuals.
No Im saying that its very very hard not to differentiate the remake faggotry with the original because they go hard on pushing the new shit over the old constantly to the point where most of it feels bloated.
Well thats another can of worms.
Okay. Clearly you've not been paying attention to my posts at all
Uh-huh
Because the control scheme was shit and it was released for a DOA platform with a shitty install base in the first place. If it were released for Switch it probably would've sold better
Because it's the same fucking game! It was a good game in 1997 and the underlying game is exactly the fucking same. Also the gaming press, don't know if you've noticed, are completely bought and paid for. They will continually eat shit and continue to call it ice cream
Because Zero actually billed itself as a new game and it turned out that it was the same old game. So understandably people were more hostile to that than to something that is explicitly billing itself as a remake
Define 'nowhere'. He was never a serious actor. He was a Hollywood screenwriter who did acting on the side. He actually wrote the screenplays for some fairly big films, least of all the first two X-Men movies, the Scorpion King and the Watchmen movie
I'll take your word for it
Your posts are either just sperging about the remake you haven't played or people enjoying the remake.
Ok so literally all you've done is spliced several different posts out of context that dont even connect to what you're talking about it.
And this folks is called cope because if anyone actually read the reception people's issues with Zero went beyond just the control scheme. Its why people still dont give a fuck about Zero and why they didn't bothered to port it to the Switch despite them porting other equally unpopular and poorly selling games.
Zero is the not the same game as 64 it is way less similar to 64 compared 3D and the remake the problem with Zero is that all the new elements are ass and clash with the old implementations of them so you have a garbage level design, garbage mechanics all wrapped in a garbage control scheme being repackaged in a retelling of the Lyatt Wars THAT is why Zero is shit its the embodiment of everything that was wrong with Nintendo in that era something that just exist to be a showcase of poorly thought ideas and left to die.
Which it was. It had new mechanics, new levels, new missions it was just shit.
