Star Fox General Thread - One of Nintendo’s neglected franchises.

[Chocolate Rain]

Wow, all it takes is one nigga throwing a chair to set this thread on fire lol.
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The release of this remake has made me simultaneously witness the most heart-warming and most spergy nitpicky discussions in a good while and all for a franchise about a fox flying a spaceship.

The response to this Star Fox game is utterly baffling. Ocarina of Time is going to be amazing.

Oh man if you think this autistic

 

[The Lawgiver]

There's no reason to play the 3D version when its worse in every way than the remake.

It's the same fucking game with better visual and voice direction than the newest remake lmao

This isn't a case where there's a fuckload of new/extra content that makes the original worse in comparison. It's down to "do you want to play the game on ds or switch" or "do you prefer the visual/voice direction of one to the other" and maybe "do you want to do online battle mode"

Both 3ds and Zero redubbed everything from n64 IIRC with just this newest one being fucking weird on the delivery of stuff for the US release. That's three whole iterations where characters sound fine. I can't find uploads of the zero voicelines but you can see it with the 3ds ones like this example.

Some sound ok in this new one but there is no world where you can tell me there aren't some complete fucking stinkers or that the ue5 exclusively makes it "better" lmao

 

[Dr J]

Meanwhile, I get great games and the added bonus of being right.

Hooray for you, I guess. You get to tell yourself this game is great (which, to be fair, it probably is only by virtue of being exactly the same game as it was in 1997 underneath it) and you get to pay $60 for it. Me, I'd rather be wrong and not paying exorbitant prices for the same old slop in new packaging

You can't buy it from a local store

That doesn't mean that it's remotely hard to find. Go on eBay and you could probably find about 50 brand new or near new copies

You literally said that people were playing the 64 version over the new one and wasn't even sure if it was selling well.

I said that people who weren't satisfied with the remake would probably stick with the original but, even so, people discussing the game does not necessarily mean the game is popular or selling well. Most of the discourse around this game, that I've seen, is just 'Why did they make this?', 'Ugh, not Star Fox 64 again', 'The new character designs look ugly and uncanny', 'I can't believe this cost $60'

They have. They expanded. Added new modes story, and control options.

Oh wow! New modes! New control options! Wow! Forgive me for my ignorance! I hadn't realised just how much they'd innovated, with this remake

How? Remake is its own thing and has nothing to do with the original game even Square treats them both separately.

Because any discussion of Final Fantasy VII and its characters now tend towards discussion of the remake FFVII and the remake versions of the characters, and when you search online for FFVII, if you search on YouTube or whatever for FFVII cutscenes, you get the remake cutscenes and you get strategy guides and whatever, all to do with the remake

Because it literally has the endorsement of the creator

You're not really answering my question

I wouldn't say command made people "realize the original wasn't good" or whatever. From what I've seen of command gameplay wise it's very sloggy with navigating menus and loading screens just to do short dogfight segments and then back to the menus to set things up to do that again.

That's my point. Command never hurt Star Fox 64 or the SNES original.

An example of a 'sequel' hurting the original is, if you look at Heaven's Gate by Michael Cimino, which is a bloated, overproduced mess of a film. It came out, it flopped, people hated it. And a lot of people who'd praised The Deer Hunter, by the same director, went back and saw that a lot of things that were wrong with Heaven's Gate were also wrong with The Deer Hunter.

Star Fox Command isn't exactly Heaven's Gate to Star Fox 64's Deer Hunter

 

[Chocolate Rain]

better visual and voice direction than the newest remake lmao

This is a hot take man. The returning cast sound really rough and the remastered visuals aren't great. It also doesn't help that there's no reason to use the 3D gimmick at all much like every 3DS title its the same issue with all the 3DS remakes were the implementations degraded a lot of the visual fidelity. There's a bunch of videos on the subject when the Majora's Mask 3DS remake came out . Once again I'm not a dubfag so the shitty voice direction of the 2026 remake didn't bother me but from what little I saw it just makes it sound like an average anime dub then a corny Saturday morning cartoon that the classic was going for.

Go on eBay

If you have to go on ebay that means its not readily available and having to pay $50 for a game that's over a decade old is redundant if there's a new version of the same game out for the same price

Forgive me for my ignorance!

Yes that is considered new innovations.Online multiplayer is a huge addition and adds to its longevity

You're not really answering my question

How? The creator did the scenario and approved of everything that happened in Command that's different from FF7 Remake which was handled by a committee

 

[Dr J]

I saw it just makes it sound like an average anime dub then a corny Saturday morning cartoon that the classic was going for.

I'll take a corny Saturday Morning Cartoon over a shitty, low effort anime English dub any day

If you have to go on ebay that means its not readily available

Yes it does. eBay is a massive, multinational online ecommerce platform. When you can't find it, even on eBay, that means it's not readily available.

having to pay $50 for a game that's over a decade old is redundant

Who said anything about paying $50 for it? Most I've seen 64 3D go for is £30 and that's a new, sealed in box copy. You can buy just the cart for a lot less.

Yes that is considered new innovations

This is you right now

The creator did the scenario and approved of everything that happened in Command

You still haven't really explained why that would make people think less of Star Fox 64. So the creators did a new game that people didn't like. How does that affect the old game?

FF7 Remake which was handled by a committee

A committee that consisted mostly of the same people who worked on the original, minus Sakaguchi

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

You get to tell yourself this game is great (which, to be fair, it probably is only by virtue of being exactly the same game as it was in 1997 underneath it)

Can you blame me? I've lived through the release hype for all of the great video games. I've played and enjoyed them.

Remakes started landing on the scene decades ago and all I want are better graphics and the same gameplay/mechanics/whatever you want to call it. Star Fox is the type of remake I want and it is not common.

My grandkids don't want to play Star Fox 64 with me. It is too old. They are wrong and stupid, I know; the fault is with me for raising their Dad wrong. But they have been loving Star Fox remake. It presents a design paradigm that is almost lost nowadays. You pick it up and play. It isn't wasting too much of your time. Gameplay is tight, with a simple approach and depth for those that want it.

If you are getting bogged down in the politics of a voice actor or specific lines of dialog, at least I can say that I enjoy your posts.

And the next Star Fox will be great and what we want because it can stand on the shoulders of this remake, which showed that people do in fact still like straightforward rail shooters.

 

[Penguin Sandwich]

Because any discussion of Final Fantasy VII and its characters now tend towards discussion of the remake FFVII and the remake versions of the characters

This is especially true and has muddied FF7 discourse. Every now and then when I was discussing the OG online, people -- likely newfags -- chimed in getting story details mixed up with 7R's logic. One in particular is Jenovaroth using the Sephi clones to travel around the globe or to project either of themselves onto the clones when originally, they were just mumbling retards doped up on little GPS J-cells leading them towards 5Groth tower, while Sephi was doing his best Superman impression using Jenova's body to zip across the sky. There are other examples, but I can't recall what they are atm.

 

[Dr J]

Remakes started landing on the scene decades ago and all I want are better graphics and the same gameplay/mechanics/whatever you want to call it. Star Fox is the type of remake I want and it is not common.

You do you I guess. I'd rather a new game. There's Star Fox 64 3D for people who think the original Star Fox 64 looks too old

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

You do you I guess. I'd rather a new game. There's Star Fox 64 3D for people who think the original Star Fox 64 looks too old

The 3DS game was cool. I liked it a lot.

But I only ever played it in N64 mode. The 3DS mode changed the gameplay too much.

 

[Postmodernist Disaster]

It's been confirmed a woketard have been doing the voice for Fox. Hiring woketards will not end well for Nintendo.

The delivery of the "We're Star Fox" line here was incredibly fruity and something told me some flavor of gay was behind it. Glad to know I was correct.

Also huge missed opportunity for the remake to have a WaW Black Cats like level where you're constantly shifting gunner positions while the whole ship takes damage and you need to move depending on the enemy location. Plus it'd be a good way to have the whole crew constantly talk to you during the mission and show that the team can be high caliber professionals sans the constant banter when the situation requires it. (Peppy or Rob advising you on where to move next, Slippy running back and forth patching the constantly breaking ship while Falco curses every time a turret overheats or runs out of ammo)

Also noticed that the thread's sperging actually managed to push it to the front page for quite some time, never would I've imagined that a space furries on rails shooter would manage to achieve that kind of traction.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Plus it'd be a good way to have the whole crew constantly talk to you during the mission and show that the team can be high caliber professionals sans the constant banter when the situation requires it. (Peppy or Rob advising you on where to move next, Slippy running back and forth patching the constantly breaking ship while Falco curses every time a turret overheats or runs out of ammo)

Considering the remake makes the noob mistakes of the lines being so long, that they're automatically interrupted when another line HAS to come in, I don't think that would work well.

Now, interrupting this aspie slap-fight to present you the database, one of the reasons to bother with the remake!

 

[Chocolate Rain]

Not remotely a high bar since its the UK but you take what you can get

I'll take a corny Saturday Morning Cartoon over a shitty, low effort anime English dub any day

Well a lot of people will surprisingly not. The reason why the voice lines of the 64 games became memes wasn't because they were done well it was because they sounded silly and over the top. If they really gave that much of a shit about the voice cast why did they not care when they were replaced for years until their return in the 3DS remaster and Starlink which they ignored? Its just performative. Same thing happened when David Hayter returned in Metal Gear Delta

When you can't find it, even on eBay, that means it's not readily available

When something is on ebay it means its not readily available because it means you need to buy it at a second hand market because you're not getting it from and official store sealed. You're basically justifying the existence of this remake due to how poorly Nintento preserves their games.

Who said anything about paying $50 for it?

Right now on ebay is $50 new same price as the remake. That's another thing about the second hand market is the fixed price rate unless you want to buy a used damaged copy. This is all for a inferior remaster btw

This is you right now

Pretty sure "ONLINE MULTIPLAYER" is not a new hat

You still haven't really explained why that would make people think less of Star Fox 64.

You still haven't explain why FF7R, a complete separate game and story, would ruin the original FF7 by existing. You can ignore it and nothing changes

A committee that consisted mostly of the same people who worked on the original,

There's only like a few people who worked on the original involved in Remake and it has a different writing team entirely.