Sound Arguments from MrEnter?

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NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
It's going to encourage trolls to go further and cyberbullies to keep doing what they're doing. Even the poet (Shane Koyczan (sp?) who made the poem he was talking about referred to "trolls", are you going to deny there's an overlap?
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Slippery slope fallacy. How will the act of trolling (with the definition I mentioned before) lead to them becoming cyberbullys?
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
You don't need to say cyberbulling is good to encourage it.
Referring to the links now.
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Your statement is misleading. First of all the page in which you received that information from was discussing bullying that occurs in real life, usually in a school environment. The context of that line was suggesting that children who don't actively take part in the bullying but instead reinforce it by watching it occur and not actively stopping it or children who assist the bully but don't directly bully. I still do not see how saying cyber bullying =/= trolling encourages cyberbullying as I do not see how the statement you provided is related.


The link he used for reference.
http://www.stopbullying.gov/what-is-bullying/roles-kids-play/index.html
 
I agree that Teen Titans GO isn't as good as the original, but when you see it as just it's own thing, it's pretty funny sometimes.
 
@Cgame: I was referring more to the other link he posted about cyberbulling, though I read both. Watching bullying isn't directly supporting it, but it's not helping either, with no opposition the bullies will only go on. The cyberbullying link doesn't use the word troll/trolling, and the point I was repeating has always been trolling/cyberbulling overlap after a bit.
@Kittentits: No known reason, yes, but not literally no reason which is exactly what happened in that episode. Besides that, it only made Brian more hateable. Keep in mind when he supposedly "died" everyone was clamoring for him back, and now they made him even worse than ever before, and we're back to not liking him.
@Jumpin Jenkins: To be fair there is one thing I laughed at. I shouldn't have laughed at it as much as I did, but:
 
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Teen Titans Fans hate TTG!? Awwwwww.... SO FUCKING WHAT!

...And this is coming from a former fan of the old show - I've seen better. And that goes for both sides of this idiotic argument.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
@Cgame: I was referring more to the other link he posted about cyberbulling, though I read both. Watching bullying isn't directly supporting it, but it's not helping either, with no opposition the bullies will only go on. The cyberbullying link doesn't use the word troll/trolling, and the point I was repeating has always been trolling/cyberbulling overlap after a bit.
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But watching bullying and not doing anything about it gives the bully a crowd, which consequently reinforces the bullies behavior. The point MrEnter was trying to make wasn't whether or not there was overlap but instead stating that the two things were exactly the same except on scale, which would be wrong for reasons I pointed out earlier.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
Trolling at its worst is no better is what we're saying. Like he said, trolling isn't just leaving spam. The first sentence kind of proves the point I was making.
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You've completely missed the point. There are different kinds of trolling, some worse than others. Trolling isn't just leaving spam but that's because that's one of the types of it.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
Yes, and:
Good trolling: Not like cyberbullying
Bad trolling: On par
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You just generalized trolling your last post without explanation. And "bad trolling" is subjective. It could mean just crappy trolling that doesn't work. Or it could mean the trolling that is "on par with cyberbullying". But even the worst true trolls will stop at one target, do not get fooled by the labels cyberbullies put on themselves, example being calling themselves "trolls" when they really aren't.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
By bad trolling I mean trolling that goes too far. For example. "why don't you lose a couple pounds?" Some trolls may not be aware they're in borderline-cyberbulling territory.
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If you say that once it isn't cyberbullying. Like I said, trolls usually move on to the next target- not dwell on one particular person. If you did that, THAT would be cyberbullying. That's the main difference.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
Targeting multiple people is not better than targeting one person.
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Well "target" I guess was a result of my poor word choice. Really trolls just want to screw with multiple people quickly, but cyberbullies do it over and over again in worse ways. Don't get me wrong not all trolling is good but they don't have the same intentions as cyberbullies.
 
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