Sound Arguments from MrEnter?

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NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
Someone can be cyberbulling people and not intended to harm them in any way besides making them mad. One major factor is whether it's trivial or not, though some subjects are more sensitive to some than others.
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I'm trying not to bother with this stupid debate but what the hell do you think bullying is? That's more like trolling. Trolling is about doing stupid shit just to piss people off. Bullying, and thus cyberbullying, is explicitly about putting people down. There can be a grey area between them, but in the general difference you've got it backwards.
 
I know what trolling and cyberbulling are in their basic core definitions. The thing is, there are different levels of trolling that blur the two terms together. People can get pissed off about trivial things, and they can be pissed off about non-trivial things. Saying "go lose a couple pounds" could be considered trolling to those who won't take it so personally, but it will likely put them down.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
I know what trolling and cyberbulling are in their basic core definitions. The thing is, there are different levels of trolling that blur the two terms together. People can get pissed off about trivial things, and they can be pissed off about non-trivial things. Saying "go lose a couple pounds" could be considered trolling to those who won't take it so personally, but it will likely put them down.
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Trolling is a fishing term, originally. All trolling requires bait, or deception. No bait, no trolling.

Pretending to be Chris Chan's girlfriend is trolling him. Calling up and yelling JULAAAY isn't - it's flaming or cyberbullying.

Telling someone to lose weight cannot be trolling. Tricking someone into sending you a photo of them, and posting it online with a caption telling them to lose weight would be trolling.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
@Cgame: I was referring more to the other link he posted about cyberbulling, though I read both. Watching bullying isn't directly supporting it, but it's not helping either, with no opposition the bullies will only go on. The cyberbullying link doesn't use the word troll/trolling, and the point I was repeating has always been trolling/cyberbulling overlap after a bit.
@Kittentits: No known reason, yes, but not literally no reason which is exactly what happened in that episode. Besides that, it only made Brian more hateable. Keep in mind when he supposedly "died" everyone was clamoring for him back, and now they made him even worse than ever before, and we're back to not liking him.
@Jumpin Jenkins: To be fair there is one thing I laughed at. I shouldn't have laughed at it as much as I did, but:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MijDiirYgFE
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Off-topic, but is this an actual Teen Titans Go! clip? Because in that case, the Teen Titans Go! writers hilariously wrecked Mr. Enter and his ilk.
 
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Absinthe dijo:
Pretending to be Chris Chan's girlfriend is trolling him. Calling up and yelling JULAAAY isn't - it's flaming or cyberbullying.

Telling someone to lose weight cannot be trolling. Tricking someone into sending you a photo of them, and posting it online with a caption telling them to lose weight would be trolling.
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True. How exactly?

You've got the last two sentences backwards.
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
It's real.



True. How exactly?

You've got the last two sentences backwards.
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How are the last two sentences backward? Are you suggesting the following would be correct:

"Trolling cannot be telling someone to lose weight. Trolling someone and posting it online with a caption telling them to lose weight would be tricking them into sending you a picture of them":?:
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
No, what I'm saying is that telling someone to lose weight is trolling. Tricking someone into sending you a photo of them, and posting it online with a caption telling them to lose weight is cyberbullying.
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NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
They will address criticism but not flaming.

Both can blend in. If I go to someone's video just to say she needs to lose a couple pounds for the fun of it, that's cyberbullying.
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Make up your mind. Is telling people to lose weight trolling or cyberbullying?
 
Both, as, like I said, trolling and cyberbullying blend together after a bit and there are different levels of trolling. But posting a picture online with a caption telling them to lose weight is nowhere near trolling.
 
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The Jumping Dwarf dijo:
Off-topic, but is this an actual Teen Titans Go! clip? Because in that case, the Teen Titans Go! writers hilariously wrecked Mr. Enter and his ilk.
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I don't even like that damn show at all and these fuckers officially have my undying respect for putting Entard in his sad, miserable place. All truly is right with the world, at the moment...
 
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
Sure.

"Family Guy is no longer shocking because they abuse shock value so often."
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Family Guy has been on a huge decline for a while now. Seth McFarlane is an amazing guy and sometimes his comedy is top notch, but no one denies that Family Guy overrelies on the same gags. At this point, you just watch Family Guy to see what ridiculous shit will happen. Enter's criticism of Family Guy is not unique; a lot of people don't care for it, especially nowadays.

NostalgiaJazzAdmirer dijo:
"Certain kids cartoons are ironically more "mature" than these so-called "adult cartoons"."
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We've discussed Family Guy. Simpsons and South Park (South Park especially) are more along the lines of satire. South Park in general is praised because it likes taking big issues or scenarios from the Black Friday shopping sprees and console wars to stuff as serious as the Anthrax incident and trivializing them to the point where they're absurd and, thus, comedic. South Park thrives in being juvenile and being lowbrow, because the way it's done lets it poke fun at a lot of real life events.

Granted, sometimes South Park doesn't work, but when it does it's brilliant (frankly, I believe anyone that didn't smile during that Black Friday Console War arc has no heart whatsoever). If you can't get the satire behind some of these cartoons, then yes, they come off as less mature.

For the record, though, if you try to convince me that MLP is more mature than South Park, I'll probably asphyxiate from uncontrollable laughter.
 
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