Sound Arguments from MrEnter?

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

You're kidding right?

What he meant was that if you want a character to remain likable throughout the episode and even future ones, you don't make them do something like willingly give a baby herpes.

 

[Simplicity111]

What he meant was that if you want a character to remain likable throughout the episode and even future ones, you don't make them do something like willingly give a baby herpes.

Here's the thing though: characters do heinous things in many shows and it sometimes works.

 

[CatParty]

What he meant was that if you want a character to remain likable throughout the episode and even future ones, you don't make them do something like willingly give a baby herpes.

which show is this? it sounds great

 

[Simplicity111]

which show is this? it sounds great

Family Guy.

 

[The Jumping Dwarf]

What he meant was that if you want a character to remain likable throughout the episode and even future ones, you don't make them do something like willingly give a baby herpes.

It's a cartoon.

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

Except that those shows have good enough writing to make it work. And they're usually not as heinous as giving a baby herpes.
You can argue that the herpes will go away next episode and never be brought up again but that still doesn't help his case.

 

[Simplicity111]

Except that those shows have good enough writing to make it work. And they're usually not as heinous as giving a baby herpes.
You can argue that the herpes will go away next episode and never be brought up again but that still doesn't help his case.

Cartoon babies are different from real life babies. While I will agree looking at it is bad, in most cases if a character does something heinous it's PROBABLY not going to kill an entire series.

 

[Ferls]

What he meant was that if you want a character to remain likable throughout the episode and even future ones, you don't make them do something like willingly give a baby herpes.

Stewie's a mature, immoral character who deserves his just desserts (as I remember him complaining) until it's convenient to call him an innocent baby.

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

@Simplicity111 No one is saying it will kill a series, but it won't do you any favors either, just make people hate you and your character.
@Ferls He didn't do ANYTHING to deserve herpes though.

 

[Simplicity111]

@Simplicity111 No one is saying it will kill a series, but it won't do you any favors either, just make people hate you and your character.
@Ferls He didn't do ANYTHING to deserve herpes though.

In reply to your first post: For some people yes, others might like it.

 

[Cgame]

Unpopular Opinions go!

"There's no real difference between trolling and cyberbullying, the line is thin, semantic, and has been blurred."
"Teen Titans Go! is a complete disgrace to the original."

There is actually major differences in what trolling and cyberbullying is. In order for something to be a form of bullying there has to be a specific target, the action has to be repeated, and there has to be a power difference in between the cyberbully and the victim; cyberbullying means this takes place online (duh). Trolling is indiscriminate, meaning that the troll doesn't attack a specific target and instead responds to anyone who replies and frequently occurs only once (hence cannot be bullying) and there often isn't a power difference. Calling trolling cyberbullying is like saying MrEnter is a bullying for blocking people for having a dissenting opinion on this issue.

I strongly recommend you read over these two links, they will give you a better idea as to what bullying actually is.

http://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/what-is-it/index.html
http://www.stopbullying.gov/what-is-bullying/index.html

One question though, are you MrEnter? Your writing reminds me a lot of his.

 

[Ferls]

@Simplicity111 No one is saying it will kill a series, but it won't do you any favors either, just make people hate you and your character.
@Ferls He didn't do ANYTHING to deserve herpes though.

I know people who love Family Guy. They don't care about the philosophies and inner workings of the characters. They don't care if they're relatable and morally likeable. They care if they're funny and do funny things. And that's what he show cares about. If it was important to the show for Brian to be a morally upright character, this episode wouldn't have been written.
None of the characters on Family Guy are supposed to be likeable in the sense that you empathize with them and want good things to come their way. You watch the show to see them do stupid stuff. Family Guy works because its characters are morally loose enough that the viewers don't get upset seeing bad things happen to them.

It's very basic writing principles.

 

[Simplicity111]

I know people who love Family Guy. They don't care about the philosophies and inner workings of the characters. They don't care if they're relatable and morally likeable. They care if they're funny and do funny things. And that's what he show cares about. If it was important to the show for Brian to be a morally upright character, this episode wouldn't have been written.
None of the characters on Family Guy are supposed to be likeable in the sense that you empathize with them and want good things to come their way. You watch the show to see them do stupid stuff. Family Guy works because its characters are morally loose enough that the viewers don't get upset seeing bad things happen to them.

It's very basic writing principles.

As @Piga Dgrifm had said a while ago- Family Guy characters are SUPPOSED to be bad people. So it WORKS in a sense (minus the herpes visuals of course).

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

@Simplicity111: Everything is liked by someone, but the fact is, Brian giving Stewie herpes with no motive isn't funny in any way.
@Cgame: Before I read the links, I'll say this: Blocking people for having different opinions is in no way comparable with trolling so that analogy... doesn't really work.
@Ferls: I don't care about most of those things either, but the show was more balanced back then. You never would have seen crap like this in old Family Guy. Also, see my response to @Simplicity111 .

 

[Simplicity111]

@Simplicity111: Everything is liked by someone, but the fact is, Brian giving Stewie herpes with no motive isn't funny in any way.
@Cgame: Before I read the links, I'll say this: Blocking people for having different opinions is in no way comparable with trolling so that analogy... doesn't really work.
@Ferls: I don't care about most of those things either, but the show was more balanced back then. You never would have seen crap like this in old Family Guy. Also, see my response to @Simplicity111 .

Well it might not be FUNNY but the characters are at least behaving like they should in that show- badly.
And for your response to Cgame, it is a good analogy because trolling and MrEnter blocking people, while not he same, are on the same level of badness.

 

[Cgame]

@Cgame: Before I read the links, I'll say this: Blocking people for having different opinions is in no way comparable with trolling so that analogy... doesn't really work.

Sure it does. MrEnter is exerting his superior power over his fans in order to intimidate them into either sharing his opinion or into silence with the threat of taking away the dissenters commenting/subscriber privileges. Its not bullying as its not a repeated action hence why I used this example, but ironically enough, its a lot closer to bullying than trolling is.

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

That is in no way how they should be behaving, at least not without proper explaining.
Blocking people who he thinks will hurt people with their opinions isn't "bad".

 

[Simplicity111]

That is in no way how they should be behaving, at least not without proper explaining.
Blocking people who he thinks will hurt people with their opinions isn't "bad".

True, but Enter isn't behaving any better.
Explain how claiming trolling and cyberbullying are different will "hurt" someone.

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

It's going to encourage trolls to go further and cyberbullies to keep doing what they're doing. Even the poet (Shane Koyczan (sp?) who made the poem he was talking about referred to "trolls", are you going to deny there's an overlap?

 

[Simplicity111]

It's going to encourage trolls to go further and cyberbullies to keep doing what they're doing. Even the poet (Shane Koyczan (sp?) who made the poem he was talking about referred to "trolls", are you going to deny there's an overlap?

There is but they're also different groups. And he never said there was ANY difference either. And no different opinions won't really do that, nobody's saying cyberbullying is good anyways.