Solution to gun violence in the United States

[Anti Snigger]

Epidemics spread logistically, not exponentially, so in theory, making gun control more lax and encouraging gun violence would cause the per capita numbers to go down, at the expense of the population

 

[Duke Nukem]

I've honestly never seen an anti-gun male who isn't a beta soyboy manlet who probably votes for socialist garbage that the rest of society has to suffer for.

It sure as hell ain't the tall strong masculine UFC watching types that are so worked up over this issue.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Why is it a right tho?

Because of the Second Amendment and my godgiven right to self-defense.

America doesn't have a gun violence problem, it has an atheism and Islam problem. Black people weren't shooting each other back when they were all church-going, they only started doing that when they became secular or Muslim.

School shootings only started once teachers started promoting communism and other secular degeneracy in the classrooms. Having kids on mood-altering prescription drugs only made it worse.

This is all true.

Otherwise you'd think they'd care for a kid moreso than a fetus who's life status philosophically is questionable but instead it's the other way around.

A fetus is a kid, just a younger one. The vaginal canal doesn't magically confer personhood.

On the contrary, I feel quite amused how isolated america is becoming.

Good.

 

[redcent]

Because of the Second Amendment and my godgiven right to self-defense.

Ha ha.

Heyyyyy, I was wondering, if you in particular were one of those guys who thinks God personally gave out the us constitution, or if those rumours of people into that are fake and gay.

Good.

You're very welcome

Hi ssj-ness. How's your left hand considering all the drama out west? Tired yet?

 

[Rungle]

If you give everyone a concealed gun, nobody would fuck with anyone in fear that the other person will actually shoot them.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Ha ha.

Heyyyyy, I was wondering, if you in particular were one of those guys who thinks God personally gave out the us constitution, or if those rumours of people into that are fake and gay.

It's irrelevant, self-defense is also a natural right, so even if you don't believe it is a Godgiven right it's still something people can and should do to the best of their ability, even if unjust laws prohibit it.

You're very welcome

Hi ssj-ness. How's your left hand considering all the drama out west? Tired yet?

Drama out west? Not sure what you mean.

If you give everyone a concealed gun, nobody would fuck with anyone in fear that the other person will actually shoot them.

Along with mandatory training and excluding violent criminals (and preferably only Whites), I agree.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Charge a grand per bullet. Yes, I stole this from that manlet Chris Rock.

What, so only the wealthy get to kill people? Thats not very egalitarian.

 

[redcent]

It's irrelevant, self-defense is also a natural right, so even if you don't believe it is a Godgiven right it's still something people can and should do to the best of their ability, even if unjust laws prohibit it.

Self defence =/= lethal force. You could wear ned Kelly armour 24/7 and that could protect you just fine (discomfort aside) instead of attack but you don't.


Also weird little cultist confirmed, you do believe God gave you your constitution. What's with that?

Drama out west? Not sure what you mean.

Never you mind, you pretty much answered it the other thread, and clearly, you still have need a lot more exercise to calm you down. Pity, if only you could get out of your home and took a walk instead. Or find a waifu to keep you occupied.

 

[Classic Muscle Lover]

Maybe we should stop giving guns to blacks mexicans and loser kids. that would fix the killing problem.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Self defence =/= lethal force. You could wear ned Kelly armour 24/7 and that could protect you just fine (discomfort aside) instead of attack but you don't.

Some armor is illegal and also against guidelines, you can't get a job or go into most stores dressed like that even if you manage to find some legal way to wear armor. Even if you do it won't save you anyway, and even if it does if you can't put down your enemy then they'll just try again.

Also weird little cultist confirmed, you do believe God gave you your constitution. What's with that?

I'm sorry that you're uneducated both philosophically and theologically.

Never you mind, you pretty much answered it the other thread, and clearly, you still have need a lot more exercise to calm you down. Pity, if only you could get out of your home and took a walk instead. Or find a waifu to keep you occupied.

What's a waifu or walking have to do with anything? Sounds like you just have nothing to say.

 

[redcent]

Some armor is illegal and also against guidelines

Actually true, (depending).

, you can't get a job or go into most stores dressed like that even if you manage to find some legal way to wear armor. Even if you do it won't save you anyway,

Neither can a gun.

and even if it does if you can't put down your enemy then they'll just try again.

Herein lies the problem with the mindset here: the "need" to put down your enemy or else.

I'm sorry that you're uneducated both philosophically and theologically.

If you find me ignorant in this regard enlighten me.

What's a waifu or walking have to do with anything? Sounds like you just have nothing to say.

Not anything worth stressing over

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Neither can a gun.

Concealed carry permits are a thing.

Herein lies the problem with the mindset here: the "need" to put down your enemy or else.

Eliminating a threat is a problem? Interesting, it's a miracle your bloodline made it this far before a critical defect emerged.

If you find me ignorant in this regard enlighten me.

If you don't understand the notion of a Godgiven right then you're too daft to be worth the trouble.

Not anything worth stressing over

Could've fooled me, you have a lot to say but nothing of substance.

 

[redcent]

Concealed carry permits are a thing.

Because no one carrying, concealed or otherwise, in the history of mankind ever had been killed themselves . Riiiiight.

Eliminating a threat is a problem? Interesting, it's a miracle your bloodline made it this far before a critical defect emerged.

There isn't much in the way of threats here, and if there is so many threats where you are is its a miracle you're alive.

That said, you don't always have to kill someone to stop them from being a threat. Maybe in some desperate situation, sure. But in a better place, you find yourself going for the peaceful option. Maybe the fact there isn't so many threats here shows there's something to be said for going for the more peaceful option.

Maybe you don't have the luxury for it where you are. But go to a safer place, you get a taste for that and less for a taste for blood, and I hope one day you get the chance to give it a try.

If you don't understand the notion of a Godgiven right then you're too daft to be worth the trouble.

Everything, technically is God given. The rain is God given but I understand there's a water cycle going on and there isn't some angel physically out there shepharding clouds.

There's a line between worship and schizo behaviour especially in regards of people getting hurt. Please don't cross it.

Could've fooled me, you have a lot to say but nothing of substance.

Yet here you are.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Because no one carrying, concealed or otherwise, in the history of mankind ever had been killed themselves . Riiiiight.

What kind of logic is that? Should we not look both ways before crossing the street just because some people still get hit?

There isn't much in the way of threats here, and if there is so many threats where you are is its a miracle you're alive.

I wouldn't go so far as to say a miracle but your sheltered life is obvious.

That said, you don't always have to kill someone to stop them from being a threat. Maybe in some desperate situation, sure. But in a better place, you find yourself going for the peaceful option. Maybe the fact there isn't so many threats here shows there's something to be said for going for the more peaceful option.

Obviously you exercise proper judgement on a case-by-case basis, you don't always need to kill to stop a threat, but sometimes you do.

As for "there isn't so many threats here" in Australia: Gun-shy Australia, reeling from knife crime, weighs public security settings

Maybe you don't have the luxury for it where you are. But go to a safer place, you get a taste for that and less for a taste for blood, and I hope one day you get the chance to give it a try.

And I hope you don't become an Australian knife crime statistic.

Everything, technically is God given. The rain is God given but I understand there's a water cycle going on and there isn't some angel physically out there shepharding clouds.

There's a line between worship and schizo behaviour especially in regards of people getting hurt. Please don't cross it.

Yes, yes, belief in God is schizophrenic, many of the greatest thinkers in history were merely schizo, let out your mundane musings.

Yet here you are.

Keen observation.

 

[redcent]

What kind of logic is that? Should we not look both ways before crossing the street just because some people still get hit?

Nice try. This part all began with to "body armour will not help you" so this logic you have applies to that too.

wouldn't go so far as to say a miracle but your sheltered life is obvious.

I feel no shame in it.

Obviously you exercise proper judgement on a case-by-case basis, you don't always need to kill to stop a threat, but sometimes you do.

No shit, that's why I said "in desperate situations"

As for "there isn't so many threats here" in Australia: Gun-shy Australia, reeling from knife crime, weighs public security settings

You look at it from an online lens while living in a nothing place (allegedly) with whatever social issues are stuffing up your country, thinking everything is as bad as your home or worse. Cope.

And I hope you don't become an Australian knife crime statistic.

And I hope you don't become another mass murderer.

Yes, yes, belief in God is schizophrenic, many of the greatest thinkers in history were merely schizo, let out your mundane musings.

That's a silly way to put it. No, believing in God isn't schizo. Believing in God is awesome but I'm not going to defend someone who shoots some rando and says God personally told them to. Believing in God is religion which is fine but the latter example is schizo cult behaviour you do know the difference after all?

At least I hope you do know the difference. Not showing that you do when I made it clear that's what I was referring to does not inspire confidence.


Edit: Hmmmn... Is there something going on in San Diego/imperial cult-wise that a kiwi farmer should be aware of?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Nice try. This part all began with to "body armour will not help you" so this logic you have applies to that too.

You brought up armor, I proved it's an untenable option living in society.

I feel no shame in it.

Nor should you, but when you're defending illegal invaders with face tattoos harassing citizens in a country you don't live in and essentially telling people they have no right to self-defense, then it should and does render your opinions null and void.

No shit, that's why I said "in desperate situations"

Which is obviously what is implied in this conversation, genius.

You look at it from an online lens while living in a nothing place (allegedly) with whatever social issues are stuffing up your country, thinking everything is as bad as your home or worse. Cope.

"Online lens" or not, facts are facts, you're the the one coping.

And I hope you don't become another mass murderer.

Self-defense isn't murder, you can keep your "peaceful" options for the knife crime your country is suffering with. I'd be happy to kill in self-defense if neccessary, God forbid.

I'm not going to defend someone who shoots some rando and says God personally told them to.

Who said anything about shooting random people on God's orders in some Abraham & Isaac type situation? I know you're stupid and obtuse, but even you're aware that's not what the "Godgiven right to self-defense" is.

Is there something going on in San Diego/imperial cult-wise that a kiwi farmer should be aware of?

Kind of, that's close to the border and there's lots of MS-13 gangsters flooding in, and they're literal Satanists.

 

[redcent]

You brought up armor, I proved it's an untenable option living in society.

Doesn't have to be. And it is just one example of escaping getting shot.

Nor should you, but when you're defending illegal invaders with face tattoos harassing citizens in a country you don't live in and essentially telling people they have no right to self-defense, then it should and does render your opinions null and void.

Then I'll repeat what I have already said :

Maybe you don't have the luxury for it where you are. But go to a safer place, you get a taste for that and less for a taste for blood, and I hope one day you get the chance to give it a try.

Online lens" or not, facts are facts, you're the the one coping.

If that's what you want to believe that makes you sleep better at night, whatever.

Self-defense isn't murder, you can keep your "peaceful" options for the knife crime your country is suffering with. I'd be happy to kill in self-defense if neccessy. God forbid.

Self-defense laws have limits. Keep that in mind when you "want to put the enemy down."

Who said anything about shooting random people on God's orders in some Abraham & Isaac type situation? I know you're stupid and obtuse, but even you're aware that's not what the "Godgiven right to self-defense" is.

I'll repeat what I have said already, it should be an easy enough concept for you:

Everything, technically is God given. The rain is God given but I understand there's a water cycle going on and there isn't some angel physically out there shepharding clouds.

There's a line between worship and schizo behaviour especially in regards of people getting hurt. Please don't cross it.

You know, your failure to grasp this is, your constant defense and attempts at diversions on people mentioning there are harmful cults out there, it's really raising red-flags for me.

Kind of, that's close to the border and there's lots of MS-13 gangsters flooding in, and they're literal Satanists.

Which church do you go to?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

One way could be to somehow get the media to change how they report mass shootings.

relevant video again:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390"How the American Media Fuels A Cycle of Violence"

- AlternateHistoryHub

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Doesn't have to be.

That's too vague to be a rebuttal.

If that's what you want to believe that makes you sleep better at night, whatever.

Facts do have that effect.

Self-defense laws have limits.

Do you have dementia:

Obviously you exercise proper judgement on a case-by-case basis, you don't always need to kill to stop a threat, but sometimes you do.

You know, your failure to grasp this is, your constant defense and attempts at diversions on people mentioning there are harmful cults out there, it's really raising red-flags for me.

Is this your way of saying you don't think violent Saranic gang cults are harmful? Nice take I guess.

Which church do you go to?

I only recently started going back to church consistently, and I'm church hopping. If you're asking my denomination, I'm nondenominational.

 

[redcent]

Do you have dementia:

No, but you seem to. I have already pointed out:

No shit, that's why I said "in desperate situations"

Is this your way of saying you don't think violent Saranic gang cults are harmful? Nice take I guess.

See, what you're doing is deflection. There may or may not be satanists where you are, but what they do does not suddenly make you innocent or mean you haven't gotten into any wrong doing yourself.

You have a constant habit of doing this, and I'm wondering if you really are a legit schizo/cultist.

I only recently started going back to church consistently, and I'm church hopping. If you're asking my denomination, I'm nondenominational.

Which church are you in.