Solution to gun violence in the United States

[Big Brutus]

It's a weapon, not a tool for fixing your door or a toy for kids to play with. It has one function only: kill. The only reason someone has a gun is to kill.

Funny how most guns are used either to take game or kill paper targets. Very violent. Much calamity. Save me your sensationalist bullshit and blatant lies.

Now with cops, they have the legalities to show if they kill someone, it would be attackers. With farmers, wild boars. With you? Who are you going to kill?

Because cops never kill someone unlawfully and farmers never need to euthanize their own animals. You're really simple-minded, ain'tcha?

I have been in a defensive gun use before, during an attempted kidnapping. Alien concept to you, I know.

Because crooks breaking ins are going to make so much noise to alert you out of the goodness of their hearts.

I forgot the part where the average intruder was a shinobi who had to train for years before his sōke would even let him try to break into a house. Silly me.

And that's if they even break in while you're there. Why would they when they can simply break in during the day while you're at work?

Then I guess there's no need to defend myself with a gun in that instance because I'm not there to be in danger to begin with. Then again, your example is from two brain cells rubbing together at best.

USA ranks 76th on countries with most [homicides oer capita. /url] UK 147th, France 149th, Australia 162nd, Japan 191st. And so on.

If 4.96 homicides per 100,000 people are really a reason to upend our Constitution and political climate (according to you), then we have a looooooot more compelling reasons to rock the boat before we get to that.

Then again, you didn't read the article I cited, because God forbid you even consider a reality check.

If you feel this happens a lot, it says a lot about how safe America is. After all, you're not going to waste money on flood insurance if you're living on a hill. If your invested in guns because of these reasons, it is because you think it has a very likely chance of happening. And you still can't imagine a world where it isn't.

You really like to put words in people's mouths and erect strawmen like you own a massive conglomerate of corn farms.

25.2% is a rather large number and it doesn't specify why those shots were fired. Was it a break in, or was an abusive spouse attacking his/her family?

You want to protect your family from attackers, who's going to protect your family from you?

It's ironic that you bring up domestic violence when questioning a speculative survey and research paper on DGUs, given the vast majority of domestic violence incidents go unreported... Almost like we need speculative studies and research papers to figure out how often domestic violence happens... Kind of like DGUs... The vast majority of which go unreported.

So, are you gonna argue that the vast majority of domestic violence incidents go unreported because the victim was somehow at fault? Or are you gonna just stick to implying I'm a violent, abusive man because I own guns?

Doesn't specify why. Was it against a real threat or was it against some bunch of randos who got lost? America is famous for simply walking on a private lot being a death sentence. Because not everyone hanging around your property is a crook out to hurt you

This is funny because I was just telling a dude in a mass DM that he was schizophrenic for wanting to shoot any unknown dog that wandered onto his property without any provocation whatsoever. You wouldn't know that because people, surprise surprise, don't want to invite you into one... For some reason I surely couldn't guess. Oh, they must not realize that you have such a sparkling, bubbly personality!

We don't shoot people en masse for simply walking up to our property. That's not legal here, sorry to break it to you. You're about as informed on American self-defense law as the average Floridian is on Canberra's weather. At least the Floridian isn't trying to make qualified statements from ignorance.

Again doesn't specifically why. And this happening so often does not make America look like a safe place at all. Imagine taking your gun to work. WTF.

I apologize to Your Majesty for all these defensive gun use studies that do not go into autistic detail.

We're talking about 11,020 firearms homicides against 1.67 million DGUs, mind you that includes criminal firearms homicides, not just DGU homicides. That's a percentage of 0.007%. You have to be in an extremely emotional, cognitively dissonant bluster to somehow claim that makes America look like an unsafe place. You are bordering on schizophrenic.

So, either:
America is such an unsafe place to live, we need guns to protect ourselves...
America is so safe that our having guns isn't a problem...
America is so safe because we use our guns to oppose those who use their guns for evil...
Pick one.

You still make America look like a terrible place to live.

Ditto.

No shit dumbass.

You already sent a pretty strong message that you're emotionalistic and dissonant. You don't need to lay it on that thick.

You think I don't know how tied in your second amendment is?

Not only did I think you knew that, I thought it was pretty apparent that was the extent of your actual knowledge on the matter. And it seems doubly as apparent now.

And how batshit insane yanks are?

You're flipping your shit over 11,020 firearms homicides in a nation of 327 million people. You're on an internet forum throwing insults and acting like a little child because someone is challenging your ill-conceived, sheltered worldview.

I'm here because, like I said, there's a guy with a crutch who can't admit something about him is broken.

And he is in complete denial of how broken and damaged he is.

Nothing's broken. Defensive gun uses two orders of magnitudes higher than all firearms homicides is proof that it's working as intended. The proof is in the pudding, princess.

Having guns will never be universal even in the USA. An old granny could have arthritis in her hands and would not be able to handle a gun. A blind man can not use a gun. How will they protect themselves?

You're trying to apply an inequality argument to something which is widely known as giving an otherwise-disadvantaged person the ability to exert great force against someone who could otherwise victimize them with impunity. You are the kind of person that would see "pour product on hand, lather in hair, rinse and repeat" on a shampoo bottle and keep doing it over and over until the bottle was empty. In other words, you are a fucking retard.

 

[Thé au lait]

With farmers, wild boars. With you? Who are you going to kill?

Wild boars? It's usually foxes or coyotes.
More importantly, the same as a farmer needs to be able to defend their livestock from local wildlife (and their own lives and family if need be since the cops will not arrive in time to a rural area), everyone else needs to be able to defend themselves and their families from local wildlife. Partially since the cops will not arrive in time even to a building next door to the fucking precinct.

Having guns will never be universal even in the USA. An old granny could have arthritis in her hands and would not be able to handle a gun. A blind man can not use a gun. How will they protect themselves?

"Not everyone can make use of a solution so nobody should be able to use it!"

 

[redcent]

Funny how most guns are used either to take game or kill paper targets. Very violent. Much calamity. Save me your sensationalist bullshit and blatant lies.

If your just going to resort to just labelling what I say is a lie, then fair go, why shouldn't I dismiss everything you say is a lie?

Because cops never kill someone unlawfully

And gun owners in the USA never kill anybody either?

So totally better to rely on those than someone who is professionaly trained to protect the masses.

and farmers never need to euthanize their own animals. You're really simple-minded, ain'tcha?

What makes you think I'd have a problem with this? You're out to call me simple minded but here you are, throwing out straw men.

I have been in a defensive gun use before, during an attempted kidnapping.

If you so allege. I'm very sorry you had to go through that, but it does prove my point: america is a dangerous place to live.

And possibly, the situation you described has gone to your head.

Alien concept to you, I know.

I feel no shame in that. Which us my point: I'm living the life. Likewise you however find life secure without a gun an alien concept. By the sound of it you've never felt truly safe in your life.

I forgot the part where the average intruder was a shinobi who had to train for years before his sōke would even let him try to break into a house. Silly me.

You don't expect them to be blundering around drunk knocking over everything, do you? If someone is out to hurt you, a very illegal activity, why would the attacker take his own actions lightly?

Then I guess there's no need to defend myself with a gun in that instance because I'm not there to be in danger to begin with. Then again, your example is from two brain cells rubbing together at best.

Then you don't feel that a gun is necessary regarding break ins involving theft. It's all about you, apparently.

What in the world did you do to make so many people want to kill you?

If 4.96 homicides per 100,000 people are really a reason to upend our Constitution and political climate (according to you), then we have a looooooot more compelling reasons to rock the boat before we get to that.

Hence my point: america is a shit hole.

I said it several times now, and I'll say it again: if you all just admitted america is a shit hole, I'd have fucked off already

It's ironic that you bring up domestic violence when questioning a speculative survey and research paper on DGUs, given the vast majority of domestic violence incidents go unreported... Almost like we need speculative studies and research papers to figure out how often domestic violence happens... Kind of like DGUs... The vast majority of which go unreported.

So, are you gonna argue that the vast majority of domestic violence incidents go unreported because the victim was somehow at fault? Or are you gonna just stick to implying I'm a violent, abusive man because I own guns?

I did say, regarding spouse, it could be a him or a her. I am being quite fair gender wise. I don't even know yours. Could have called you a guy, but that's more a default.

Calm down.

This is funny because I was just telling a dude in a mass DM that he was schizophrenic for wanting to shoot any unknown dog that wandered onto his property without any provocation whatsoever. You wouldn't know that because people, surprise surprise, don't want to invite you into one... For some reason I surely couldn't guess. Oh, they must not realize that you have such a sparkling, bubbly personality!

Proving my point. You have people wanting to shoot a dog fir waltzing into his property.

We don't shoot people en masse for simply walking up to our property. That's not legal here, sorry to break it to you. You're about as informed on American self-defense law as the average Floridian is on Canberra's weather. At least the Floridian isn't trying to make qualified statements from ignorance.

And yet, right above this quote, you admitted there are guys there who would shoot a dog for wandering onto his property.

Then again, you didn't read the article I cited, because God forbid you even check

You really like to put words in people's mouths and erect strawmen like you own a massive conglomerate of corn farms.

I apologize to Your Majesty for all these defensive gun use studies that do not go into autistic detail.

We're talking about 11,020 firearms homicides against 1.67 million DGUs, mind you that includes criminal firearms homicides, not just DGU homicides. That's a percentage of 0.007%. You have to be in an extremely emotional, cognitively dissonant bluster to somehow claim that makes America look like an unsafe place. You are bordering on schizophrenic

You already sent a pretty strong message that you're emotionalistic and dissonant. You don't need to lay it on that thick.

Not only did I think you knew that, I thought it was pretty apparent that was the extent of your actual knowledge on the matter. And it seems doubly as apparent now.

You seem to be quite triggered. . I've been handling several insults already in stride, starting from one simply because I questioned the American right to bear arms. Yet you lose your shit over a "no shit dumbass ."

Truly, the very epitome of a calm headed gun user who would never lash out in violence.

So, either:
America is such an unsafe place to live, we need guns to protect ourselves...
America is so safe that our having guns isn't a problem...
America is so safe because we use our guns to oppose those who use their guns for evil...
Pick one.

Funny, I was waiting for you to pick one. Or haven't you realised it yet? You're living in a contradiction.

Yes, Either:

A. america is a safe place (regardless of how it achieved such a status) that doesn't require guns (because having a gun out of security concerns proves you are not in a safe environment).

Or B. America is such a terrible unsafe place to live a gun is necessary to feel safe.

But since you want me to pick, I'm quite easy, really. I have been making it quite clear I'd go for B.

Ditto.

Mission accomplished then.

You're flipping your shit over 11,020 firearms homicides in a nation of 327 million people.

No, you are. You're the one who went to drastic measures Walmart for a gun "for insurance"

If America was safe, you wouldn't need it.

You're on an internet forum throwing insults and acting like a little child because someone is challenging your ill-conceived, sheltered worldview.

Nothing's broken. Defensive gun uses two orders of magnitudes higher than all firearms homicides is proof that it's working as intended. The proof is in the pudding, princess.

If guns worked then why do you still need them? It has not and might never reach the point where you no longer have use of them. Instead, you are proving you are dependant on them. It's not a very effective cure if you feel you missing out in having a gun means you'd be attacked.

argument to something which is widely known as giving an otherwise-disadvantaged person the ability to exert great force against someone who could otherwise victimize them with impunity. You are the kind of person that would see "pour product on hand, lather in hair, rinse and repeat" on a shampoo bottle and keep doing it over and over until the bottle was empty. In other words, you are a fucking retard.

So, how is an old granny with arthritis in her hand supposed to shoot? Telekinesis?

More importantly, the same as a farmer needs to be able to defend their livestock from local wildlife (and their own lives and family if need be since the cops will not arrive in time to a rural area), everyone else needs to be able to defend themselves and their families from local wildlife. Partially since the cops will not arrive in time even to a building next door to the fucking precinct.

If there is wildlife out there that you need to defend yourself from, gun restrictions do have some exceptions. If you apply, prove you are not a dick/drug addict/competent with a gun etc you can obtain one. It's never been a universal ban, it is something you have to earn rather than a right.

Like, say, you might want insurance. But it's not exactly a right. You have to pay for it, show you actually have something worth losing. Doesn't mean you can't get it ever, just means you need a readon for it and you need to earn it.

Not everyone can make use of a solution so nobody should be able to use it!"

See above.

 

[Male Idiot]

Don't let niggers own guns. Don't let gypsies get guns.

Fine ol Solution from Nazi Germany:
Only allow non pistol guns. That way hiding it is harder, so nigger can't walk around with a stolen gun in his pocket.

This means that your gun is hard to conceal.

 

[Big Brutus]

If your just going to resort to just labelling what I say is a lie, then fair go, why shouldn't I dismiss everything you say is a lie?

When you state conclusions that are wholly unsupported by statistics and other data, then you are propagating lies. There is no way around that, no matter how many mental gymnastics you conduct.

And gun owners in the USA never kill anybody either?

I never said they didn't. I stated that the vast majority of gun owners in the United States don't kill or injure anyone with their guns. I've cited hard data to support my conclusion. The fact is, you're wrong on this matter. It's not up for debate.

So totally better to rely on those than someone who is professionaly trained to protect the masses.

A study in Texas found that Concealed Handgun License holders commit less crime, both violent and non-violent, than the general population. A study of Texas and Florida found that CHL holders commit less crime than law enforcement officers. Again, you're wrong on this matter. You're talking out of your ass, making statements about things you know absolutely jack shit about. I and everyone else in here has noticed that, it's a recurring pattern with you.

What makes you think I'd have a problem with this? You're out to call me simple minded but here you are, throwing out straw men.

You cite narrow hypotheticals with lesser likelihood to justify your ill-informed stance. Again, it's a recurring pattern.

I did say, regarding spouse, it could be a him or a her. I am being quite fair gender wise. I don't even know yours. Could have called you a guy, but that's more a default.

Calm down.

Pretending to be innocent and "fair" after making a personal attack makes you look like a narcissistic, conniving ass.

Proving my point. You have people wanting to shoot a dog fir waltzing into his property.

Given the statistics I've posted, you have clearly and consistently either missed the point, or you have such an unwavering subscription to stereotypes about Americans that you defend with cognitive dissonance so thick, people debate whether it's a sauce or a paste. Either way, you're a dullard.

And yet, right above this quote, you admitted there are guys there who would shoot a dog for wandering onto his property.

By that logic, I could claim all Australians are rapists.

You seem to be quite triggered. . I've been handling several insults already in stride, starting from one simply because I questioned the American right to bear arms. Yet you lose your shit over a "no shit dumbass ."

Truly, the very epitome of a calm headed gun user who would never lash out in violence.

A triggered user has posted a number of statistics that prove you have zero idea what you're talking about. That's odd.

If you decide to be a douche, people are going to treat you in kind. This isn't a new concept.

Funny, I was waiting for you to pick one. Or haven't you realised it yet? You're living in a contradiction.

Yes, Either:

A. america is a safe place (regardless of how it achieved such a status) that doesn't require guns (because having a gun out of security concerns proves you are not in a safe environment).

Or B. America is such a terrible unsafe place to live a gun is necessary to feel safe.

But since you want me to pick, I'm quite easy, really. I have been making it quite clear I'd go for B.

I have clearly and consistently argued that owning and carrying a firearm is a personal choice meant to serve as a bulwark against the off-chance that I am accosted by a violent criminal. This is why I made the analogy between owning a gun and having an insurance policy. Again, keep using mental gymnastics all you want, but I've demonstrated clearly with statistics that my point is sound.

No, you are. You're the one who went to drastic measures Walmart for a gun "for insurance"

If America was safe, you wouldn't need it.

This is basically just "no, u!" I see you like to play the victim.

I decide what I need, nobody else has a say in it. You and your ilk don't get a say in it, and never will.

If guns worked then why do you still need them? It has not and might never reach the point where you no longer have use of them. Instead, you are proving you are dependant on them. It's not a very effective cure if you feel you missing out in having a gun means you'd be attacked.

If vaccines worked, then why do you still need them? If fire extinguishers worked, then why do you still need them? If antibiotics worked, then why do you still need them? Do you really how insanely stupid you sound when I apply your logic to other topics?

So, how is an old granny with arthritis in her hand supposed to shoot? Telekinesis?

I'm not an old granny with arthritis, so I give zero fucks about this weak excuse of an argument. Moving on.

If there is wildlife out there that you need to defend yourself from, gun restrictions do have some exceptions. If you apply, prove you are not a dick/drug addict/competent with a gun etc you can obtain one. It's never been a universal ban, it is something you have to earn rather than a right.

Like, say, you might want insurance. But it's not exactly a right. You have to pay for it, show you actually have something worth losing. Doesn't mean you can't get it ever, just means you need a readon for it and you need to earn it.

Here, it's a right. Here, we have a great many rights like the right to freedom of speech, something Australia doesn't have. Your country is the punchline to a bad joke.

See above.

Tea hit the nail on the head, illustrating just how stupid your argument is. You're scared of people peacefully doing things they have a right to do. It would be funny if it wasn't such a damning indictment of the average Australian's intellect.

Hence my point: america is a shit hole.

I said it several times now, and I'll say it again: if you all just admitted america is a shit hole, I'd have fucked off already

So your entire point in this dogshit excuse of an argument you're making is..... Owning the Amerimutts? That's it? This is just your chance to sound a barbaric yawp and etch another win on your belt? That's highly narcissistic of you, but once again, a recurring theme.

Then you don't feel that a gun is necessary regarding break ins involving theft. It's all about you, apparently.

What in the world did you do to make so many people want to kill you?

I cannot help but be amazed at your stupidity. At this point, I'm just countering your claims and assertions to spare others the indignity of taking your argument seriously.

You don't expect them to be blundering around drunk knocking over everything, do you? If someone is out to hurt you, a very illegal activity, why would the attacker take his own actions lightly?

I'm fairly certain glass makes a lot of noise when broken, so does kicking a door in. The simple mind of the Australian fails to conceive the mere notion that sound waves are a thing.

I feel no shame in that. Which us my point: I'm living the life. Likewise you however find life secure without a gun an alien concept. By the sound of it you've never felt truly safe in your life.

If I was an Australian with any modicum of free thought and saw the current state of the country, I would kill myself. I recommend you do the same.

If you so allege. I'm very sorry you had to go through that, but it does prove my point: america is a dangerous place to live.

And possibly, the situation you described has gone to your head.

I figured your inability to comprehend simple statistics was par for the course, but I was blown away by the concern trolling.

 

[Big Brutus]

Fine ol Solution from Nazi Germany:
Only allow non pistol guns. That way hiding it is harder, so nigger can't walk around with a stolen gun in his pocket.

Nazi Germany allowed the ownership and carry of handguns by NSDAP members, government workers and hunting permit holders. The idea that Nazi Germany prohibited the ownership and carry of handguns for anyone other than Jews and other untrusted minorities is false.

 

[redcent]

majority of gun owners in the United States don't kill or injure anyone with their guns. I've cited hard data to support my conclusion. The fact is, you're wrong on this matter. It's not up for debate.

"not up for debate?" suddenly I don't have the right to argue?

your gun violence is higher than other first world countries.
you are the country with lax gun laws. Ergo, your lax guns laws create a more unsafe country. It doesn't matter what yoyr majority does, not if the minority keeps on bringing you down.

A study in Texas found that Concealed Handgun License holders commit less crime, both violent and non-violent, than the general population. A study of Texas and Florida found that CHL holders commit less crime than law enforcement officers. Again, you're wrong on this matter. You're talking out of your ass, making statements about things you know absolutely jack shit about. I and everyone else in here has noticed that, it's a recurring pattern with you.

Yeah, even your cops suck. Like I said, america=shithole. My bad, I thought the people there cared about where their tax dollars are going, that they'd push for people who's job it is to protect the masses take legal responsibility and do their job should things go south.

But since it went over if your head, let me spill it out why cops are the preference to the usual layman to have guns: not everyone has the training, the knowledge or the responsibility to do do the right thing if shit hits the fan. (and that's the point of gun control : that only the people who have the training and responsibility drilled into their skulls and have a proper reason get a licence) And if the cops can't do it, and you're so insistant on little to no control, well, you expect me to believe that less professional knowledge and training makes you a better gun owner? Come on.

But hey, if you want to be the hero so damn much - again, if that's what you allege - then you can deal with the responsibility if things go south. You won't get any money for shooting anything, but if you so much as shoot the wrong person, or even shoot some theif just looking for a TV who turns tail and runs - enjoy getting the book thrown at you. Enjoy the responsibility. But I don't think you care. All you care about is "muh freedom" and how yanks look.

unsupported by statistics and other data, then you are propagating lies. There is no way around that, no matter how many mental gymnastics you conduct.

"I googled that the gun owners who shoot people are ackshually in the minority! How dare you say we are anything but perfect angels!"

You cite narrow hypotheticals with lesser likelihood to justify your ill-informed stance. Again, it's a recurring pattern.

Well I'm sorry me trying to explain what a contradiction is goes over your head.

Pretending to be innocent and "fair" after making a personal attack makes you look like a narcissistic, conniving ass.

How was it a personal attack? I pointed out something that should be considered in your little google search stats: why are the shots fired there? You want to call me conniving for so much as thinking gun owners aren't all innocent little mew-mews well fine, I'm a conniving ass. So much for yoyr freedom of speech you can't even handle feeedom if thought.

Given the statistics I've posted, you have clearly and consistently either missed the point, or you have such an unwavering subscription to stereotypes about Americans that you defend with cognitive dissonance so thick, people debate whether it's a sauce or a paste. Either way, you're a dullard.

"uuuh, just ignore what I just admitted and look at the stats bro."

By that logic, I could claim all Australians are rapists.

Since that is what uncle google declareth, it must be so.

A triggered A triggered user has posted a number of statistics that prove you have zero idea what you're talking about. That's odd

If you decide to be a douche, people are going to treat you in kind. This isn't a new concept.

The first thing I did was ask "why is it a right?"

This is douchey? Or is it douchey to get butt mad at anyone who questions it

I have clearly and consistently argued that owning and carrying a firearm is a personal choice meant to serve as a bulwark against the off-chance that I am accosted by a violent criminal. This is why I made the analogy between owning a gun and having an insurance policy. Again, keep using mental gymnastics all you want, but I've demonstrated clearly with statistics that my point is sound.

Yes. Insurance. The thing that isn't a right, mind you. I did brought up insurance only goes so far. I'm not going to insure against flooding if I'm on a hill. I'm not going to waste money insuring something that doesn't happen. So, by your own analogy, you expect to get accosted as you do say. You expect there to be a danger, more-so than what people feel than in other countries.

You can choose either side of the contradiction you're in. Either safe america that doesn't need guns, or a shit-hole. Your choice.

This is basically just "no, u!" I see you like to play the victim.

I decide what I need, nobody else has a say in it. You and your ilk don't get a say in it, and never will.

Oh, and what next? Are you going to say you need to be a dictator and everyone to kow tow to you, and me to believe it it "because I decide what I need!" like WTF. Well it's my right to call what you claim you need is utter nonsense. And you don't get a say in what my opinions are.

If vaccines worked, then why do you still need them? If fire extinguishers worked, then why do you still need them? If antibiotics worked, then why do you still need them? Do you really how insanely stupid you sound when I apply your logic to other topics?

Because there's a danger out there involving diseases. I'm getting a tetanus shot but I'm not getting a rabies shot because one's around here the other isn't. Because there's a danger out there involving fires because I live in a fire prone area. But I'm not going to run around with a gun because there's so much less of a danger of "some guy accosting me" and you don't seem to get.

I'm not an old granny with arthritis, so I give zero fucks about this weak excuse of an argument. Moving

So you don't give a shit about those individuals who can't in any way use a gun? Nice to know.

Here, it's a right. Here, we have a great many rights like the right to freedom of speech, something Australia doesn't have. Your country is the punchline to a bad joke.

Why would you want the right to do this? What the fuck.

America is a shit hole. You groom others into extremism and expect everyone to do nothing because "muh freedom" and you think this makes you look good? What next? Getting buttmad because a government made a law against killing people in cold blood?

Tea hit the nail on the head, illustrating just how stupid your argument is. You're scared of people peacefully doing things they have a right to do. It would be funny if it wasn't such a damning indictment of the average Australian's intellect.

Uuuhh, sir... I wasnt disagreeing with him. Why are you going off your head?

So your entire point in this dogshit excuse of an argument you're making is..... Owning the Amerimutts? That's it? This is just your chance to sound a barbaric yawp and etch another win on your belt? That's highly narcissistic of you, but once again, a recurring theme.

And why exactly are you here?

You're living in a contradiction. Let me have my laugh. Or does that make you too upset?

I cannot help but be amazed at your stupidity. At this point, I'm just countering your claims and assertions to spare others the indignity of taking your argument seriously.

So you can't answer the question. Hmmmn.

That's okay. We all have the right to silence.

I'm fairly certain glass makes a lot of noise when broken, so does kicking a door in. The simple mind of the Australian fails to conceive the mere notion that sound waves are a thing.

What part of "will not take his actions lightly" do you not get? Or can't you use your imagination of getting in without waking someone up? Like, I don't know, picking a lock? Then again, your train of thought seems to be stuck with the kind of enemy that's some low down ghetto trash. (again, america=shithole)

Although, you can always tell the character of a person by the quality of his enemies.

If I was an Australian with any modicum of free thought and saw the current state of the country, I would kill myself. I recommend you do the same.

No.

Jinkies, you gun advocates an-hero over the most petty things. But it does highlight your issue and why you're so buttmad: you'd rather die than think america isn't all it's cracked up to be.

I figured your inability to comprehend simple statistics was par for the course, but I was blown away by the concern trolli

You're welcome.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

Get rid of blacks.

 

[Big Brutus]

"not up for debate?" suddenly I don't have the right to argue?

You're in here bitching about Americans having gun rights, and simultaneously you're bitching about your right to free speech, as if some random man on the internet can abrogate it with his words.

your gun violence is higher than other first world countries.
you are the country with lax gun laws. Ergo, your lax guns laws create a more unsafe country. It doesn't matter what yoyr majority does, not if the minority keeps on bringing you down.

So you haven't read any of the sources I posted, and you've circled back to "but muh first-world gun violence rates! Your lax gun laws are making things worse!" Please, for the love of God, don't propagate your genes and make tardbabies.

Yeah, even your cops suck. Like I said, america=shithole. My bad, I thought the people there cared about where their tax dollars are going, that they'd push for people who's job it is to protect the masses take legal responsibility and do their job should things go south.

But since it went over if your head, let me spill it out why cops are the preference to the usual layman to have guns: not everyone has the training, the knowledge or the responsibility to do do the right thing if shit hits the fan. (and that's the point of gun control : that only the people who have the training and responsibility drilled into their skulls and have a proper reason get a licence) And if the cops can't do it, and you're so insistant on little to no control, well, you expect me to believe that less professional knowledge and training makes you a better gun owner? Come on.

But hey, if you want to be the hero so damn much - again, if that's what you allege - then you can deal with the responsibility if things go south. You won't get any money for shooting anything, but if you so much as shoot the wrong person, or even shoot some theif just looking for a TV who turns tail and runs - enjoy getting the book thrown at you. Enjoy the responsibility. But I don't think you care. All you care about is "muh freedom" and how yanks look.

Despite this lack of "training," "knowledge" and "responsibility," the "usual layman" is safer, more law-abiding and more careful than the average law enforcement officer, and such layman is more likely to use his guns for good than for bad.

The average law enforcement officer only fires their weapon once a year for qualification, even in your beloved Australia. Stop pretending like LEOs are ubermensch with amazing training and insane responsibility.

"I googled that the gun owners who shoot people are ackshually in the minority! How dare you say we are anything but perfect angels!"

1. I have never stated that gun owners can do no wrong. You're bold to accuse me of strawmanning (something I never did) and then do the same shit. There's a word for that: hypocrisy.
2. I cited studies and surveys from researchers and scholars way more qualified than I. Quite a few, in fact. You're citing... Checks notes Things you pulled out of your ass.

Well I'm sorry me trying to explain what a contradiction is goes over your head.

I'm much more intelligent than you, but thanks for playing.

How was it a personal attack? I pointed out something that should be considered in your little google search stats: why are the shots fired there? You want to call me conniving for so much as thinking gun owners aren't all innocent little mew-mews well fine, I'm a conniving ass. So much for yoyr freedom of speech you can't even handle feeedom if thought.

The first thing I did was ask "why is it a right?"

This is douchey? Or is it douchey to get butt mad at anyone who questions it

Still playing the victim card, I see, not to mention being a massive hypocrite.

"uuuh, just ignore what I just admitted and look at the stats bro."

Dullard. Enough said.

Yes. Insurance. The thing that isn't a right, mind you. I did brought up insurance only goes so far. I'm not going to insure against flooding if I'm on a hill. I'm not going to waste money insuring something that doesn't happen. So, by your own analogy, you expect to get accosted as you do say. You expect there to be a danger, more-so than what people feel than in other countries.

You can choose either side of the contradiction you're in. Either safe america that doesn't need guns, or a shit-hole. Your choice.

I didn't say I expect there to be a danger. I didn't say America was safe enough that we don't need guns. I didn't say it was a shithole. Lol.

I've been accosted before. That's called the real world. You should try living in it sometime.

"uuuh, just ignore what I just admitted and look at the stats bro."

Since that is what uncle google declareth, it must be so.

You really like denying studies and sources that disagree with your beliefs. Stuh stuh STUPID.

Oh, and what next? Are you going to say you need to be a dictator and everyone to kow tow to you, and me to believe it it "because I decide what I need!" like WTF. Well it's my right to call what you claim you need is utter nonsense. And you don't get a say in what my opinions are.

This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read on the internet. Here's your trophy, mate.

Because there's a danger out there involving diseases. I'm getting a tetanus shot but I'm not getting a rabies shot because one's around here the other isn't. Because there's a danger out there involving fires because I live in a fire prone area. But I'm not going to run around with a gun because there's so much less of a danger of "some guy accosting me" and you don't seem to get.

I like how you use such a concise, thoughtful response to move the goalposts.

I've demonstrated to you that there are millions of defensive gun uses per year in the United States. By your own logic, you must support eliminating laws against drunk driving, speeding and seatbelts. A crash test dummy has a higher IQ than you.

So you don't give a shit about those individuals who can't in any way use a gun? Nice to know.

Your pretending to care about old ladies and the disabled is on the same level as a Reddit atheist going "erm, your Bible that I would never follow or obey says you're bad for doing this "

But to answer your question, no. No, I don't. Lick my weiner.

Why would you want the right to do this? What the fuck.

America is a shit hole. You groom others into extremism and expect everyone to do nothing because "muh freedom" and you think this makes you look good? What next? Getting buttmad because a government made a law against killing people in cold blood?

You're the kind of NPC that's cool with your government outlawing free speech because you have nothing of note to say.

The reason why people need the right to say hateful things is because, in outlawing hate speech, you're stifling people's right to civil discourse and opening the door to things like outlawing criticism of the government. A man teaches his pug to do a Nazi salute and your ilk starts menstruating.

I'm not exactly a psychic, but I can sense how many niggers and troons you've bent over for.

Uuuhh, sir... I wasnt disagreeing with him. Why are you going off your head?

Dullard.

And why exactly are you here?

I like to wrangle pseudointellectual tards online. I see someone post the most blatantly stupid, dangerous takes ever, I counter them. Simple.

You're living in a contradiction. Let me have my laugh. Or does that make you too upset?

So you're a cackling retard. Cute.

So you can't answer the question. Hmmmn.

I don't answer stupid questions from stupid people. I just counter dangerous false arguments, a lot of which you make.

That's okay. We all have the right to silence.

Ironically, this right doesn't exist in the Constitution of Australia, and can be abrogated in certain cases. It does exist in the Constitution of the United States.

What part of "will not take his actions lightly" do you not get?

You're stupid.

Or can't you use your imagination of getting in without waking someone up? Like, I don't know, picking a lock?

You seem to base your political positions on things that happen in your own imagination.

Then again, your train of thought seems to be stuck with the kind of enemy that's some low down ghetto trash. (again, america=shithole)

I know, I know, Australians don't have to deal with niggers so they don't know what real crime is... Well, except for the monstrous rape rate that gaps the USA harder than a 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R.

Although, you can always tell the character of a person by the quality of his enemies.

By that logic, Australians must be massive shitbags if goatfucker terrorists want to kill them.

Jinkies, you gun advocates an-hero over the most petty things. But it does highlight your issue and why you're so buttmad: you'd rather die than think america isn't all it's cracked up to be.

If you can say this without the sound of refugees raping some poor woman to death in the background, then by all means, go for it.

 

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You're in here bitching about Americans having gun rights, and simultaneously you're bitching about your right to free speech, as if some random man on the internet can abrogate it with his words.

Hey, just pointing out the hypocrisy there.

So you haven't read any of the sources I posted, and you've circled back to "but muh first-world gun violence rates! Your lax gun laws are making things worse!" Please, for the love of God, don't propagate your genes and make tardbabies.

So you don't have any rebuttyl at all, just an insult. You have nothing to say. That's just fine. Does everyone who thinks gun violence is crazy in the usa and thinks it needs better laws get marked as retarded in your eyes, or am I just special?

Despite this lack of "training," "knowledge" and "responsibility," the "usual layman" is safer, more law-abiding and more careful than the average law enforcement officer, and such layman is more likely to use his guns for good than for bad.

And yet usa remains highest in gun violence.

If all these gun owners are so great then they wouldn't have a problem going through the tests and requirements for tight gun control. And you wouldn't have a problem at all with said control. Surely you can understand the need to weed out the dangerous people.

The average law enforcement officer only fires their weapon once a year for qualification, even in your beloved Australia. Stop pretending like LEOs are ubermensch with amazing training and insane responsibility.

So what the fuck are you paying your cops for? Sitting on their ass eating donuts and harassing dudes over air-fresheners while you run around? Nice solution to a problem, instead of fixing the thing that costs money, you just take it into your less experienced hands hands for free. Maybe, if you're so "great" about it, someone should pay you and if you fuck up you can get the same amount if hate cops get over there. But you won't. You want all the glory of having a weapon but none of the responsibility or distaste should things go south. And if things go south? What are you going to do? Say it's nothing, argue and beat people down for saying you shouldn't have taken the law into your own hands?

You don't want responsibity. Worse - you want to be trusted. And that's an even more lethal weapon I'm not going to give to the likes of you.

1. I have never stated that gun owners can do no wrong. You're bold to accuse me of strawmanning (something I never did)

Then we can both agree that there are gun owners out there who hurt others and something should be done to stop them. Stop getting all indignant because gun control makes you feel insulted and let the laws stop the ones who cause problem..

and then do the same shit. There's a word for that: hypocrisy.

Pot call kettle black

2. I cited studies and surveys from researchers and scholars way more qualified than I. Quite a few, in fact. You're citing... Checks notes Things you pulled out of your ass.

So you are trying to argue that all gun owners are angels? Make up your mind.

I'm much more intelligent than you, but thanks for playing.

No answer, just insult. But just in case you still don't get it, a person does not put a woollen jacket on when he is very hot. Therefore, what he says and how he acts are contradictory. Or, a person does not rush off to the the doctor if he is fine. Therefore, if he says "I'm fine" it's a contradiction to his actions. See?

Still playing the victim card, I see, not to mention being a massive hypocrite.

Rest assured, I do not feel at all victimised by all the insults. I did ask a question though. Why are you being indignant?

Dullard. Enough said.

No answer once again.

Not that you have to, mind. But it does sound less like you have a point that gets me down and more like you're a scammer caught in the middle of spinning bullshit.

Just sayin.

I didn't say I expect there to be a danger. I didn't say America was safe enough that we don't need guns. I didn't say it was a shithole. Lol.

So you continue to live in a contradiction.

I've been accosted before. That's called the real world. You should try living in it sometime.

But I am this is my real world. Yes, I am sheltered (relatively) and feel no shame. You're welcome to join in but let me guess... You'd rather die than live in safety. How sad, you define yourself by the misery you had and expect people to feel guilty for not feeling as miserable and insecure as you are. I feel sorry for you. Yes, it has gone to your head. Maybe you need therapy, if it bothers you so much?

You really like denying studies and sources that disagree with your beliefs. Stuh stuh STUPID.

So are you going to use your googled stats to claim everyone here is a rapist or not? Or did you stop to think, maybe that's stupid?

This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read on the internet. Here's your trophy, mate.

So not blindly believing what someone says they need as fact is retarded, huh? Sorry for thinking on my own.

I like how you use such a concise, thoughtful response to move the goalposts.

I've demonstrated to you that there are millions of defensive gun uses per year in the United States. By your own logic, you must support eliminating laws against drunk driving, speeding and seatbelts. A crash test dummy has a higher IQ than you.

Still can't grasp a contradiction, eh? You're not going to wear a seatbelt if you're not in a car but in your own lounge, because there is no danger of getting hit three. You put a seatbelt on when you are in a car because there's a danger there. You're not going to be booked for going over the limit if you're not in a car but in your lounge because you don't have a danger of driving recklessly. You have laws against driving drunk because it poses a danger. Seriously, what's wrong with you? I think you don't seem to be able to grasp things.

Your pretending to care about old ladies and the disabled is on the same level as a Reddit atheist going "erm, your Bible that I would never follow or obey says you're bad for doing this "

But to answer your question, no. No, I don't. Lick my weiner.

Go figure. I'm not surprised. Just admit you want guns not for other people but just so you can feel good.

You're the kind of NPC that's cool with your government outlawing free speech because you have nothing of note to say.

The reason why people need the right to say hateful things is because, in outlawing hate speech, you're stifling people's right to civil discourse and opening the door to things like outlawing criticism of the government. A man teaches his pug to do a Nazi salute and your ilk starts menstruating.

And yet you are opening the door to letting people become monsters.

You want to save people from some big bad government, what about saving people from themselves?

I'm not exactly a psychic, but I can sense how many niggers and troons you've bent over for.

I'm a virgin.

Dullard.

Can't answer yet again.

I like to wrangle pseudointellectual tards online. I see someone post the most blatantly stupid, dangerous takes ever, I counter them. Simple

So you think anyone who disagrees with your country's lax gun laws is stupid and you think you're better than them?

So you're a cackling retard. Cute.

Adorable I know

I don't answer stupid questions from stupid people. I just counter dangerous false arguments, a lot of which you make

So don't reply then, if your knickers are in such a twist.

Ironically, this right doesn't exist in the Constitution of Australia, and can be abrogated in certain cases. It does exist in the Constitution of the United States.

It remains a legal right, we don't exactly fuss over constitutions over here. Nobody gives a fuck.

You're stupid.

I thought of a way to break in without waking people up whereas you didn't suddenly I'm the stupid one. Huh.

You seem to base your political positions on things that happen in your own imagination.

So you think someone breaking in without being stupid is my imagination

I know, I know, Australians don't have to deal with niggers so they don't know what real crime is... Well, except for the monstrous rape rate that gaps the USA harder than a 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R.

And yet, I never had to deal with those either. Does all your perspective come from Googled stats? No wonder your brain is stuck in a hell hole - which you can't admit

By that logic, Australians must be massive shitbags if goatfucker terrorists want to kill them.

Also never had to deal with those. I got bigger fish to fry. Speaking of which, you're just Tuesday buisness. Do hurry on, I'm sure if I'm your biggest concern so much those school shooters must be a piece of cake.

 

[dick brain]

Man I fucking love not reading this thread.

 

[ThePozzedOutCritic]

I think the solution to gun violence is teaching high schoolers how to have gay sex

 

[Big Brutus]

Hey, just pointing out the hypocrisy there.

"He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones."

So you don't have any rebuttyl at all, just an insult. You have nothing to say. That's just fine. Does everyone who thinks gun violence is crazy in the usa and thinks it needs better laws get marked as retarded in your eyes, or am I just special?

I would call you special but there isn't exactly a surplus of anti-gun retards.

And yet usa remains highest in gun violence.

If all these gun owners are so great then they wouldn't have a problem going through the tests and requirements for tight gun control. And you wouldn't have a problem at all with said control. Surely you can understand the need to weed out the dangerous people.

You're a massive faggot. Moving on.

So what the fuck are you paying your cops for? Sitting on their ass eating donuts and harassing dudes over air-fresheners while you run around? Nice solution to a problem, instead of fixing the thing that costs money, you just take it into your less experienced hands hands for free. Maybe, if you're so "great" about it, someone should pay you and if you fuck up you can get the same amount if hate cops get over there. But you won't. You want all the glory of having a weapon but none of the responsibility or distaste should things go south. And if things go south? What are you going to do? Say it's nothing, argue and beat people down for saying you shouldn't have taken the law into your own hands?

You don't want responsibity. Worse - you want to be trusted. And that's an even more lethal weapon I'm not going to give to the likes of you.

I mean, if we go by the statistics, it's less likely to "go south" than if law enforcement officers handle the situation. But you're stuh stuh STUPID enough to not understand that.

Then we can both agree that there are gun owners out there who hurt others and something should be done to stop them. Stop getting all indignant because gun control makes you feel insulted and let the laws stop the ones who cause problem..

I bet you're the same kind of person that thinks Prohibition was a great idea. You're a retard.

Pot call kettle black

Kill yourself.

So you are trying to argue that all gun owners are angels? Make up your mind.

Again: kill yourself.

No answer, just insult. But just in case you still don't get it, a person does not put a woollen jacket on when he is very hot. Therefore, what he says and how he acts are contradictory. Or, a person does not rush off to the the doctor if he is fine. Therefore, if he says "I'm fine" it's a contradiction to his actions. See?

K-I-L-L Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-F. I've spelled it out so even a dullard such as yourself can understand it.

But I am this is my real world. Yes, I am sheltered (relatively) and feel no shame. You're welcome to join in but let me guess... You'd rather die than live in safety. How sad, you define yourself by the misery you had and expect people to feel guilty for not feeling as miserable and insecure as you are. I feel sorry for you. Yes, it has gone to your head. Maybe you need therapy, if it bothers you so much?

Go tell this to the litany of Australian rape victims.

So are you going to use your googled stats to claim everyone here is a rapist or not? Or did you stop to think, maybe that's stupid?

I'm starting to suspect you're one of Australia's many rapists. If such is true, you should be shot.

So not blindly believing what someone says they need as fact is retarded, huh? Sorry for thinking on my own.

It's apparent to anyone reading this thread that you don't think on your own.

Still can't grasp a contradiction, eh? You're not going to wear a seatbelt if you're not in a car but in your own lounge, because there is no danger of getting hit three. You put a seatbelt on when you are in a car because there's a danger there. You're not going to be booked for going over the limit if you're not in a car but in your lounge because you don't have a danger of driving recklessly. You have laws against driving drunk because it poses a danger. Seriously, what's wrong with you? I think you don't seem to be able to grasp things.

..... What?

Go figure. I'm not surprised. Just admit you want guns not for other people but just so you can feel good.

No counter I can conceive is more indicting than your own words.

And yet you are opening the door to letting people become monsters.

You want to save people from some big bad government, what about saving people from themselves?

Ask the tens of thousands of Australians who get raped every year by other Australians.

I'm a virgin.

The typical woman avoids incurring a rape charge for having sex with the mentally disabled.

Can't answer yet again.

Kill yourself.

So you think anyone who disagrees with your country's lax gun laws is stupid and you think you're better than them?

I don't think I'm better than you. I know I'm better than you.

So don't reply then, if your knickers are in such a twist.

I know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, but you're wrong and always have been on this subject.

It remains a legal right, we don't exactly fuss over constitutions over here. Nobody gives a fuck.

Let me know when it gets enumerated in your constitution without any exceptions, then you can claim it's a right, faggot.

I thought of a way to break in without waking people up whereas you didn't suddenly I'm the stupid one. Huh.

You are indeed stupid.

And yet, I never had to deal with those either. Does all your perspective come from Googled stats? No wonder your brain is stuck in a hell hole - which you can't admit

You sound like you're a rape baby.

Also never had to deal with those. I got bigger fish to fry. Speaking of which, you're just Tuesday buisness. Do hurry on, I'm sure if I'm your biggest concern so much those school shooters must be a piece of cake.

The chance of an American child dying in a school shooting is 1 in 980,000. Alas, your ignorant mind knowing such a statistical fact is about as probable as my ability to assfuck Jennifer Lawrence.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

Came in expecting to hate the anti gun tards, ended up hating everyone involved. How refreshing

 

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He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones."

Glad you understand that. Now, stop throwing stones.

would call you special but there isn't exactly a surplus of anti-gun retards.

on the contrary....

You're a massive faggot. Moving on.

I have a point. Where are those tax dollars going? What are you paying those cops to do?

mean, if we go by the statistics, it's less likely to "go south" than if law enforcement officers handle the situation. But you're stuh stuh STUPID enough to not understand that.

"less likely" is not a "never likely" it happens and instead of facing that and coming up with an answer you try to minimise it and sweep it under the rug.

I bet you're the same kind of person that thinks Prohibition was a great idea. You're a retard.

Do you want the gun owners who do hurt others to be stopped? Yes or no.

Kill yourself.

No.

Again: kill yourself.

Again, no

K-I-L-L Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-F. I've spelled it out so even a dullard such as yourself can understand it.

What? you think you're some kind of Jim jones?

Go tell this to the litany of Australian rape victims.

Pretty sure they'd welcome any government intervention from rapists attacking anyone . And what has this got to do with your little extremist-fears?

I'm starting to suspect you're one of Australia's many rapists. If such is true, you should be shot.

On what grounds? Google stats

By all means, go around shooting someone based on internet hissy fits. Such responsible gun owner. Totally not a murderous psycho who would kill someone on a whim. Totally not schizo behaviour whatsoever.

It's apparent to anyone reading this thread that you don't think on your own.

So where do you think I'm getting this from?

Someone else who thinks like I do?

.... What?

A contradiction: you say you think america is safe. Your act of getting a gun to feel secure contradicts that statement.

No counter I can conceive is more indicting than your own words.

Shhh, it's okay, you can admit it.

Ask the tens of thousands of Australians who get raped every year by other Australians.

Why don't you ask the the victims of gun violence how they feel about america gun laws? Or better yet, I can look it up. I can look up how people felt about the port aurthur massacre. I can also look up how people feel about Australia, or even better countries in say Europe after moving from the USA.

The typical woman avoids incurring a rape charge for having sex with the mentally disabled.

But we haven't fucked yet, @Ass to Ass, you mentally disabled person, you.

P. S. I wouldn't worry. You are fat and I would not have sex with you.

Kill yourself.

Once again no.

I don't think I'm better than you. I know I'm better than you.

You think you're better than everyone else who disagrees with you, hmmmn

I know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, but you're wrong and always have been on this subject.

If you want to make this harder on yourself, be my guest.

Let me know when it gets enumerated in your constitution without any exceptions, then you can claim it's a right, faggot.

Why would I care about a constitution?

You are indeed stupid.

For thinking of it whereas you didn't. I disagree.

You sound like you're a rape baby.

Nothing to say once again.

The chance of an American child dying in a school shooting is 1 in 980,000. Alas, your ignorant mind knowing such a statistical fact is about as probable as my ability to assfuck Jennifer Lawrence.

the usa remains the country with the highest amount of public shootings

Now, when I say I think the usa has a gun problem,, and do try to understand this, I'm not having a go at x person in the burgerland street. I'm not having a specific go at Fred there or Mary here. I mean usa has a problem as a whole. And whether there is one or two or a handful of respondsible gun owners - again, if they are so, would do just fine after checks and tests- the fact still remains, the usa has a problem, and something needs to be done to stop it.

But for some reason you take it personally. Now, regarding your story if being accosted or rescuing some kidnapping, or whatever, I do give you the benefit of a doubt. Not that I don't have doubts, but in the end you're a rando online and it's not worth bickering over. For the sake of argument I'd have let it go. But the more you fight any checks, the more you insist on having this power (and, for good or ill, guns are power over others) the more you get indignant, well....

 

[Big Brutus]

Glad you understand that. Now, stop throwing stones.

I bet you broke your mother's cookie jar and blamed it on your sibling.

on the contrary....

Don't care. Moving on.

"less likely" is not a "never likely" it happens and instead of facing that and coming up with an answer you try to minimise it and sweep it under the rug.

I know you were never taught this by your parents, but there is no such thing as perfection. There is no such thing as stopping all violence or gun crime. One would think an island of convicts would've known this from the get-go.

Do you want the gun owners who do hurt others to be stopped? Yes or no.

We should shoot them.

Pretty sure they'd welcome any government intervention from rapists attacking anyone . And what has this got to do with your little extremist-fears?

Maybe you Australians wouldn't be getting raped harder than 13th century China if you could just shoot the rapists.

On what grounds? Google stats

Once again, you deny reliable sources that contradict your beliefs. Nutter behavior.

By all means, go around shooting someone based on internet hissy fits. Such responsible gun owner. Totally not a murderous psycho who would kill someone on a whim. Totally not schizo behaviour whatsoever.

So you support rapists. Why am I not surprised?

So where do you think I'm getting this from?

Someone else who thinks like I do?

You must have short-term memory loss. Pity.

A contradiction: you say you think america is safe. Your act of getting a gun to feel secure contradicts that statement.

Statistically, it's pretty safe here. But your chance of being accosted by a criminal is never zero. BTDT type deal.

Shhh, it's okay, you can admit it.

You sound a bit like a rapist. Then again, such is the Australian national pastime since they outlawed fucking kangaroos.

Why don't you ask the the victims of gun violence how they feel about america gun laws? Or better yet, I can look it up. I can look up how people felt about the port aurthur massacre. I can also look up how people feel about Australia, or even better countries in say Europe after moving from the USA.

Weak people do not deserve to have their feelings considered as somehow more important than the rights of innocent individuals. Society shouldn't have to dumb itself down because weak people are too feeble to read the writing on the wall.

But we haven't fucked yet, @Ass to Ass, you mentally disabled person, you.

P. S. I wouldn't worry. You are fat and I would not have sex with you.

"No u" ahh comeback. I've heard better comebacks from middle schoolers.

Why would I care about a constitution?

I forgot, you think individual rights are bad and scary.

You think you're better than everyone else who disagrees with you, hmmmn

I've had disagreements with people on politics before and respected them for it. I respected them because they were intelligent and thoughtful. You are neither.

If you want to make this harder on yourself, be my guest.

I blew you the fuck out with multiple reliable sources. You've been outted as a pseudointellectual charlatan and all it took me ten minutes of research. It was pretty easy.

Now, when I say I think the usa has a gun problem,, and do try to understand this, I'm not having a go at x person in the burgerland street. I'm not having a specific go at Fred there or Mary here. I mean usa has a problem as a whole. And whether there is one or two or a handful of respondsible gun owners - again, if they are so, would do just fine after checks and tests- the fact still remains, the usa has a problem, and something needs to be done to stop it.

But for some reason you take it personally. Now, regarding your story if being accosted or rescuing some kidnapping, or whatever, I do give you the benefit of a doubt. Not that I don't have doubts, but in the end you're a rando online and it's not worth bickering over. For the sake of argument I'd have let it go. But the more you fight any checks, the more you insist on having this power (and, for good or ill, guns are power over others) the more you get indignant, well....

You sound like a Redditfag.

People don't like it when asswipes demand that their rights be curtailed for something they didn't do. Unbelievably sophisticated concept, I know.

What? you think you're some kind of Jim jones?

You say that as someone who obviously drinks industrial-strength Kool-Aid. Ironic.

the usa remains the country with the highest amount of public shootings

191 mass shootings versus 1.67 million defensive gun uses. I'll stick to my guns and you can stick to your fried boot.

Well, unless you've got some sort of magic bullet of a source to support your dipshit claims, I think I can say I beat you like a rented mule, and there's no point in discussing it further.

 

[Neodanthril]

making 150 quoteboxes from a single post is some real reddit behavior. nobody is or should read all of that shit

 

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I bet you broke your mother's cookie jar and blamed it on your sibling.

Weird accusation. If you want to lose money so much...

I know you were never taught this by your parents, but there is no such thing as perfection. There is no such thing as stopping all violence or gun crime. One would think an island of convicts would've known this from the get-go.

There isn't, doesn't mean you can't improve things. See, like you point out, Australia is not perfect either. Some euro countries are better tier, sure. But that doesn't mean nobody does shit bugger all because they have some piece of paper constitution up their ass.

The USA will never improve. It will remain a shithole because you can't admit you have a gun problem

We should shoot them.... Maybe you Australians wouldn't be getting raped harder than 13th century China if you could just shoot the rapists.

Since you're so oh very confident at recognising who is a criminal and who isn't since you're oh so willing to take it all in your hands, go do it then, faggot. Then go shoot yourself the moment you fuck up and shoot an innocent.

Once again, you deny reliable sources that contradict your beliefs. Nutter behavior.

So wonderful way of finding out who's a rapist.

I'm sure that'll holdwell in court.

"your honour, I find it just peachy I shot someone from x country because according to Google, there's a rapist issue, therefore, they're all rapists."

Great fucking logic. No wonder you're buttmad at cops. Imagine a dickhead like you running things, all your country would be dead within a week.

So you support rapists. Why am I not surprised?

You wouldn't recognise a rapist supporter if you were getting fucked up the ass by Ariel Castro.

You must have short-term memory loss. Pity.

So you have no idea what insults you are even spouting. Brilliant.

Statistically, it's pretty safe here. But your chance of being accosted by a criminal is never zero. BTDT type deal.

If it were so safe you wouldn't need a gun. Clearly, it's not safe enough for you to feel secure without it. Therefore, it's not safe.

Then again, if burgerland were filled with people who thought like you and got all trigger happy at the drop of a hat, no bloody wonder you're insecure. What's the matter, afraid someone might assume you're a rapist?

You're likely not, then again, you are rather insistent of seeking power over others and trying very hard to look like a trusted individual. You also look (just a suspicion, mind) ready to victim blame would-be rape victims for not carrying and shooting said rapist.

You also lost your head when I asked, quite simply, why in your little stats so many people fired shots at home. Rather reactionary.

You sound a bit like a rapist. Then again, such is the Australian national pastime since they outlawed fucking kangaroos.

If this is your best insult, if, say someone decided to nod yes and gush that Australians are totes bunch of rapists, it's not that impressive coming from a blood thirsty killer. That would be like the lowest bar you could manage under. Like who retorts to pointing out you have a homicide problem by saying "that's okay because you're all rapists"

Nah If Oz was such a dystopia nightmare that you make it out to be, then the usa, and perhaps your specific circle of the world, is worse. You must be living in utter hell and you expect me to believe for one moment that's it's safe over there?

Weak people do not deserve to have their feelings considered as somehow more important than the rights of innocent individuals. Society shouldn't have to dumb itself down because weak people are too feeble to read the writing on the wall.

Funny philosophy there. And fitting, considering IMHO gun violence activists carry because they are in fact weak cowards. Think of it: they can't manage to defend themselves against most normal people so they use a gun to compensate. This is why rapists carry weapons themselves, they know deep down they can't stand up to a woman.

Are you a rapist? Unlikely, but then again, you are hiding behind a weapon.

"No u" ahh comeback. I've heard better comebacks from middle schoolers.

You left yourself open, I couldn't resist

I forgot, you think individual rights are bad and scary.

You honestly can't understand a country that doesn't gush over a constitution. Maybe if they didn't shove yours up your ass when they brainwashed you into being so butt hard gay over your spaz country, you'd loosen up.

I've had disagreements with people on politics before and respected them for it. I respected them because they were intelligent and thoughtful. You are neither.

More like you lost your shit the moment I didn't play yout game.

I blew you the fuck out with multiple reliable sources. You've been outted as a pseudointellectual charlatan and all it took me ten minutes of research. It was pretty easy.

With what? Your failed logic? All you can do is, at best, Google what is population is a majority and what isn't. And you base your entire worldview on that.
There's a term for that and why it's a load of nonsense Then when someone points out similar results, saying, I don't know, the usa global ranking on gun violence you're all "nu uh! I got a hit on you first! You're just a stupid doody head!" and lose your shit.

Yeah... Nah.

You sound like a Redditfag.

People don't like it when asswipes demand that their rights be curtailed for something they didn't do. Unbelievably sophisticated concept, I know.

Some people don't mind. Your perspective is an american one, because some people don'thave fragile egos that needs coddling and reassuring how innocent they are at every single moment they're asked to do something to help someone else.

You say that as someone who obviously drinks industrial-strength Kool-Aid. Ironic.

Ironic accusation, coming from someone who's in a North-Korea tier brainwashed land. How often did they make you pledge your allegiance to the flag at school? How often did you choke down the nonsense that your country alone is the greatest

Even more ironic coming from someone who admitted he'd rather die than live anywhere different from America's ideals.

191 mass shootings versus 1.67 million defensive gun uses. I'll stick to my guns and you can stick to your fried boot.

So once again, you prove america is a shit hole.

Well, unless you've got some sort of magic bullet of a source to support your dipshit claims, I think I can say I beat you like a rented mule, and there's no point in discussing it further.

Funny, I don't feel beaten. On the contrary, I feel quite amused how isolated america is becoming. How alone in your nonsense you're all going to be, very soon.

But that's for another time. You have your bets, I have mine.

 

[French Dip]

deport all mexicans and send back all niggers

FPBP
Thread over.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

FPBP
Thread over.

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