Serious LGBT Discussion

[Hooked on phobics]

heh, between HIV and full blown AIDS.

I've heard of cases having absolutely severe AIDS symtoms while not having HIV, AND people who have HIV basically their whole life no meds, no problems, no issues.

so I ALMOST wonder if HIV was something conjured up to cover a disease about septic blood or something. Its a bit conspiracy brained, but when you think about how much was being looked into this pandemic of gay men fucking themselves to death in the 80s and INSISTING it needs so much research dollars, I could see them making a blood born virus that does BASICALLY nothing to cover up that "uh yeah its just too much fecal particles in the blood because faggots fuck themselves til they bleed with extreme diareah and then obviously get REALLY sick"

I can't say for sure but if this got released as some top secret bs tomorrow I'd believe it. LITERALLY no evidence or serious reasons to think it but..... just a thought.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

So basically yeah, if every faggot had their head catch on fire every time they tried to have gay sex, aids would eliminate ITSELF practically in about 50 years very likely. Aids being a continued issue is very much because of homosexuals.

I'd give it a little bit less time than that, or are you talking about the amount of time it takes for the last AIDS infected people to die off?

Honestly, one should seriously take a good long look at how the powers that be treated COVID 19, or even other diseases like tuberculosis. In the latter case, failure to get proper screening or treatment, mainly if you're a foreigner, can earn you jail time. And in the case of the former, the government used it as an excuse to destroy the economy, infringe on peoples' freedom of movement, and inflict psychological damage on children and other vulnerable people.

And yet despite being willing to invoke the force of the state to stop the spread of comparatively less severe illnesses, they're too cowardly to do what it takes to stop the spread of a disease with a 100% likelihood of killing you or maiming you or making you dependent on antiviral drugs for life. Liberals really are terrified of the fact that the state may, in fact, be perfectly justified in regulating or even outright criminalizing alternative sexual lifestyles for the sake of public health and safety.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I'd give it a little bit less time than that, or are you talking about the amount of time it takes for the last AIDS infected people to die off?

mainly it completely thinning out. I'm being generous and assuming a stagnation spread through like, herione addicts or whatever, but even then I think it would thin out to almost nothing. I also WASN'T suggesting covid esque restrictions, JUST that gays immediately burn to death for trying to commit gay sex. That ALONE would do it I think.

they're too cowardly to do what it takes to stop the spread of a disease with a 100% likelihood of killing you or maiming you or making you dependent on antiviral drugs for life.

This KINDA feeds into my thinking that HIV and aids might be unrelated. The main thing that makes me think this is imagining 2 hiv NEGATIVE faggots dropped on an island given food, drugs, poppers porn, everything they could ever fucking ever want, let them fuck in the most degenerate, bloody shit piss cum smoothie degenerate way, and then test them after like 10 fucking years. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING they could not of POSSIBLY gotten HIV if you listen to science but I frankly think their health would plummet. HIV negative or not, I think they would be on deaths door. Getting shit regularly possibly mixed into your blood isn't good, and I've heard septic blood is huge killer for surgies in unsanitary conditions. While its not surgery, its literally RIPPING FLESH in the area you SHIT.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

This KINDA feeds into my think that HIV and aids might be unrelated. The main thing that makes me think this is imagining 2 hiv NEGATIVE faHhggots dropped on an island given food, drugs, poppers porn, everything they could ever fucking ever want, let them fuck in the most degenerate, bloody shit piss cum smoothie degenerate way, and then test them after like 10 fucking years. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING they could not of POSSIBLY gotten HIV if you listen to science but I frankly think their health would plummet. HIV negative or not, I think they would be on deaths door. Getting shit regularly possibly mixed into your blood isn't good, and I've heard septic blood is huge killer for surgies in unsanitary conditions. While its not surgery, its literally RIPPING FLESH in the area you SHIT.

Hopefully I don't come across as contrarian or argumentative, but I don't think it truly matters either way, even though I personally don't buy the conspiracy theories behind HIV/AIDS. The LGBTQ movement took what was a deadly disease (diseases?) that was 100% their own fault, and twisted it into a means to garner sympathy for themselves.

Even in After the Ball, they acknowledge the Patient Zero story, and yet urge their readers to use the pandemic as a means to fish for sympathy, because their enemies would use it as a means to discredit the LGBTQ movement otherwise (and their enemies were perfectly justified in doing so, seeing that AIDS and other STDs were, and still are, 100% their own damn fault)

 

[Unifier of Hispania]

LMAO

This thread has gotten so deranged! You've had great insights before, but the limitations of your knowledge are showing.

Fecal particles aren't an issue because gay men clean their assholes before and after sex. Remember that women do anal as well and it isn’t a problem because they clean it.

Anal sex isn't as violent as you think it is. Condoms and lube make it safer, even without drugs.

AIDS was a gift to the gay rights movement. Before it, gays were just weird and potentially dangerous men. After it, they were a marginalized community dying due to governmental and social neglect.

AIDS wouldn't disappear if gays stopped existing. There are lots of HIV-positive straight people, and they aren't bisexuals in the closet, but they can be druggies sharing needles.

that was 100% their (the LGBTQ) own fault

Zoophiles aren't tipically considered part of the LGBT. So, more like 50% our fault. Gays aren't to blame if a retard fucks a monkey in Africa. Unless you want to blame white people for global warming because the British invented the Industrial Revolution.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

Fecal particles aren't an issue because gay men clean their assholes before and after sex.

Optimistic as fuck. I've heard from the horses mouth homosexuals eagerly sharing how they liked being fucked in the ass with shitty assholes. Even if its only a few, ones who LIKE it like that aren't even the ones who DONT CARE about it, and considering how the body works, if you destroy your ass, and THEN take a shit it literally rubs the shit INTO the wound. Its really hard to avoid this.

Anal sex isn't as violent as you think it is.

For some it is. This is obvious.

Condoms and lube

Which aren't used as commonly because they PREFER going without the condoms AT LEAST. This has been a long problem with condoms

without drugs.

Optimistic. They consume drugs more than MANY other groups

AIDS was a gift

Why the FUCK was your pink triangle taken away???

 

[Unifier of Hispania]

Why the FUCK was your pink triangle taken away??

I wonder the same. It was cute and pretty distinctive. Pink triangles are the cherries on top of the Kiwi Farms cake, unlike those boring regular users.

 

[Whatevermancer]

AIDS was a gift to the gay rights movement.

Nigga, you're nuts.

 

[RybenZ999]

It was the consequences of being a denigrate sex addict, not being gay by itself.

Idk from the sounds of it, it does sound like at least some kind of byproduct of engaging in homosexual activity. To say sodomy doesn't cause AIDS, just unprotected sex does sounds like saying incest doesn't cause deformed offspring, unprotected sex does.

AIDS wouldn't disappear if gays stopped existing. There are lots of HIV-positive straight people, and they aren't bisexuals in the closet, but they can be druggies sharing needles.

So AIDS would disappear if gays and druggies stopped existing?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Zoophiles aren't tipically considered part of the LGBT. So, more like 50% our fault.

So you're admitting that gays are guilty of perpetuating a virus that was dug up by a zoophile, even though they could all easily stop it if they wanted to. Not a good look, buddy.

Do you know what else wasn't a good look? When everyone went silent when pets owned by gays started getting infected by monkeypox decades later.

Optimistic as fuck. I've heard from the horses mouth homosexuals eagerly sharing how they liked being fucked in the ass with shitty assholes. Even if its only a few, ones who LIKE it like that aren't even the ones who DONT CARE about it, and considering how the body works, if you destroy your ass, and THEN take a shit it literally rubs the shit INTO the wound. Its really hard to avoid this.

You know, at one point, Danny Savage tried to coin Rick Santorum's surname as a slang term for a frothy mix of lube and fecal matter.

However anyone feels about Santorum, not only is it yet another example of homosexuals being very vicious, yucky individuals in response to anyone who offends or insults them, it's also an implicit admission that gays love poopy.

Idk from the sounds of it, it does sound like at least some kind of byproduct of engaging in homosexual activity. To say sodomy doesn't cause AIDS, just unprotected sex does sounds like saying incest doesn't cause deformed offspring, unprotected sex does.

Despite some people making the claim that condoms or other forms of protection don't protect against AIDS very effectively (because of microscopic holes in them or because they tear more easily inside of the anus), I really do think that is a moot point.

All this talk about "safe sex, we gotta push safe sex, etc." The failure to stop the spread of STIs amongst the LGBTQ community, by promoting "safe sex." It's not due to lack of trying. It's because they just plain don't give a shit.

You have to ask yourself, what is it about the LGBTQ lifestyle, the LGBTQ mindset, that makes people not even give a shit about STDs at all? After decades of trying to push "safe sex," why is it that they clearly don't give a shit about it, other than to whine about it when they get infected by such an easily preventable disease? Other than whining about it in order to fish for sympathy?

It really does seem that the only real form of "safe sex" there is is within the bounds of marriage. And that's especially when you factor in more than just STIs.

 

[Necrosan]

You have to ask yourself, what is it about the LGBTQ lifestyle that makes people not even give a shit about STDs at all? After decades of trying to push "safe sex," why is it that they clearly don't give a shit about it, other than to whine about it when they get infected by such an easily preventable disease? Other than whining about it in order to fish for sympathy?

I just think they think it's a hassle to prepare for gay sex anywhere they go and they just don't care. You're getting your butt fucked, it's going to hurt lube or no lube.

Also, I wholeheartedly believe that these people hate themselves to great degrees. It's super self destructive in the same way drugs are to a junkie.

 

[Unifier of Hispania]

So AIDS would disappear if gays and druggies stopped existing?

No, because people can be born with it.

So you're admitting that gays are guilty of perpetuating a virus that was dug up by a zoophile, even though they could all easily stop it if they wanted to

Yes.

Do you know what else wasn't a good look? When everyone went silent when pets owned by gays started getting infected by monkeypox decades later.

Don't forget the children with monkeypox. I'm not denying reality, just saying it’s more complex than gay = AIDS.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

No, because people can be born with it.

Only because the parents (or the father at least) was too weak and stupid to stop taking it up the rear.

Don't forget the children with monkeypox. I'm not denying reality, just saying it’s more complex than gay = AIDS.

Yes, the children being raised by gay couples, who were also infected with the disease.

You are so fucking close to finally getting it, yet so far away.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

No, because people can be born with it.

I already mentioned this. IIRC unassisted HALF of babies with aids DIE before hitting 2, countless more die after that, and even more will be so sickly they won't be having sex anyway, and beyond that, women WITH aids will generally not have kids voluntarily. This EXISTS but its basically a non factor for spreading it

it’s more complex than gay = AIDS.

Its a situation where this is ONLY technically correct. YES some aids infected women spread it to children they have. YES drug users are a factor. YES it can spread via disposed needles. Yes horrific situations like car crashes can spread it.

HOWEVER, all those are under perhaps 5% of total transmissions. This was reflected in the 80s where even THEN they were trying to fudge the data, but numbers suggested JUST men fucking other men was responsible for 97% of cases, gay men who ALSO used drugs (a double risk) were another 2% risk, and basically anything OUTSIDE of that is 1%. Statistical repressentation worsened, men who fuck trannies are counted as "straight", trannies fucking men in the ass count as "women transmitting aids" ect, but its still all MSM (males having sex with males). If you focus on THIS metric of cock owners fucking other cock owners, its EASILY over 90% no matter who you ask.

 

[Unifier of Hispania]

in the 80s, men fucking other men was responsible for 97% of cases

Sure, what does up to date data suggest?

You are so fucking close to finally getting it, yet so far away.

You want me to “get” that gays are hipersexual paraphilic disease spreaders, but that’s incorrect.

I can admit that homosexuality is a risk factor for STDs.

I can admit that gays are more promiscuous than their straight counterparts.

I can even admit that gays are more prolific sexual abusers.

I can’t put the blame for AIDS solely on them, though.

Unfortunately, Kiwi Farms is plagued with halo effect and women are wonderful effect.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

You want me to “get” that gays are hipersexual paraphilic disease spreaders, but that’s incorrect.

Why were children raised by gay "parents" being infected with STDs?

 

[Hooked on phobics]

Sure, what does up to date data suggest?

the up to date data which counts ana valens, keffals, chris chan, and plenty others as WOMEN?

yeah I think that data is fucking useless and outright garbage. But fuck it, for you I'll get a google ai overview

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Gay men have a higher risk of acquiring HIV compared to other groups in the United States, accounting for a significant portion of new HIV diagnoses. In 2022, 70% of new HIV diagnoses among adults and adolescents in the U.S. and dependent areas were in gay and bisexual men. This increased risk is primarily due to factors like increased rates of anal sex and a higher prevalence of HIV within the MSM community

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70%. 70 fucking percent you dumbass. And that NOT counting aids transmissions from trannies to "STRAIGHT" men, NOR bisexual men infecting women which is absolutely MSM related.

2% of the population is doing 70% of all aids spreading. Around queers, steer clear

Unfortunately, Kiwi Farms is plagued with halo effect and women are wonderful effect.

No, plenty of women are massive cunts, and I'll out cuntiness when I see it, I've seen it from several, and the man hate thread is a prime example of cunty behavior.

THAT SAID, these are BIOLOGICAL REALITIES. Women DON'T spread aids by being a massive fucking whore, they can spread herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea, genital warts, pubic lice, ect, but aids is LITERALLY a disease you CANNOT put the blame primarily on women for spreading.. Beyond the fact that faggots fuck MORE OFTEN than women (even if you think most women are "turbo sluts" this is true) the transmission rate as stated is 4-10000 per exposure IN THE 80s!!! I think it would be even lower now.

So yes, aids is like 95% homosexual behavior involved. You can get mad but this is true. And you are out of your fucking mind if you are blaming aids on WOMEN, unless these "women" actually have penises.

 

[Sock Tuah]

2% of the population is doing 70% of all aids spreading. Around queers, steer clear

yes, and.
also illicit drug users, alcoholics who engage in high risk sex under the influence.
or say "is that needle clean, oh who cares"
i dont think drugs get enough credit for the hiv crisis.
meth goes hand in hand with hypersexuality.

and then in major metro areas theres an 80% prevalence of IDU on the gay hookup apps.
so you meet someone on one of these apps there is an 80% chance theyre using drugs.
theres a near 100% chance theyre hiv+ positive or have slept with one or two or five guys this week who are hiv+ and nobodys using condoms.

i digress that its , IMO , 80% of the 2% doing the 70% , but then the rest are junkies and people fucking hookers and troons and IDUs and that drug dealers should go in a woodchipper to also help mitigate HIV and other societal scourges.

put another way, its probably about 80% of the gays and 30% of the heteros and or heteroflexible.

the reason thats so high is because they assume its a "gay problem" so theyre not tested or theyre unaware. its people who are recently infected and unaware of this fact who are the most contagious.

los angeles is a good example of a place where everyone gay straight bi , is fucking everyone and everyone is crawling with everything.

 

[Jacques1194]

I know enough teachers to know that kids aren't being taught to be gay or trans in schools, or at leat, not a vast majority of the time. That's largely propaganda to shut down conversation. The most that's taught is that gay people exist, and if that's somehow sexual, then so is the existence of straight people.

I would believe this but like I've said many pages ago, I swear that half of kids online are desperate to be queer or trans and don't want to be seen as straight. Hell, even in certain fandoms, God forbid you ship a het ship cause apparently almost every character in media is “gay-coded”.
Sure, if someone wants to ship two same sex characters together then its whatever, but the fact that there's such hostility by a large and loud group of people in fandom speaks volume as to how active these kids are. Do gays have nothing better to do with their lives but autistic obsess over shipping to where they're the majority of users in fandoms?

 

[Hooked on phobics]

its probably about 80% of the gays and 30% of the heteros and or gay

fixed. heteroflexible is just gay but fluffed up. Like I said earlier, it comes down to ARE YOU or ARE YOU NOT taking cocks up the ass. For simplicity sake lets call that "gay". yeah, now 95% of it is gay related. And it goes HIGHER when you factor in association / tolerance of gay (doing drugs with gays, having a bisexual boyfriend for women, ect)

the reason thats so high is because they assume its a "gay problem" so theyre not tested or theyre unaware. its people who are recently infected and unaware of this fact who are the most contagious.

This is theory crafting and nothing else.
if you are a man and
-aren't exposed to a strangers blood unsafely
-aren't taking dicks in the ass
-aren't using IV drugs
-haven't been poked by a disposed needles
you BASICALLY have a 0% chance of getting aids. No joke, the risk factor puts you WELL under .5 % so its statistically irrelevant and EVEN if one of these anomalies infects a handful of women before being caught (people tend to do full STD batteries when they test aids included, so one whos anomaly AND has 3 female partners without a test or knowing like shooting stat unlikely) these women STILL have a 1 out of 2500 per exposure infection rate, and perhaps even lower. So the aids transmission wouldn't likely branch out from there and would probably die with the man and 3 women

los angeles is a good example of a place where everyone gay "straight" bi , is fucking everyone and everyone is crawling with everything.

yes, los angelous is full of faggots and bisexuals (ALSO FAGGOTS) and the women there get wet about men being bisexual and then get aids and die. This isn't news to me.