Pluribus - The new show from Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan

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About the idiocy of making a virus following a recipe from a radio signal from outer space
Totally. Species, a much sillier film series, involved scientists creating the monster Sil from an alien DNA sequence that was transmitted from space via radio. Also, a lab fuck up is an extremely common trope in sci-fi/horror stories, from The Stand to Pluribus, and considering what happened with COVID I'd say it's a realistic one.
 
If I ever replicate an alien virus (which I am aware is literally a virus but probably even if I didn't) I think I'd do it underground and not let two incompetents and a guy with a mop work there at night with no supervision.

I kinda like the idea that it's an alien weapon directed at any species with the technology to do this but who are overall too fucking dumb to be allowed to leave their own solar system, though. Strange method but they got us there.
 
If it turns out that the viral possession can be undone, which seems heavily implied, then he in fact has been raping at least dozens, possibly hundreds of people while they are unconscious.
It can. They said as much. My question is since they can unpossess someone, why haven't they, just to prove that the people actually like being a part of the whole. Carol would probably take that as definitive proof. Unpossess someone for an hour, and have them talk with her, as an individual who has been part of the thing. If that person says it's all hunky dory, after the fact, she might be inclined to listen.
 
finished watching this and i must say that this entire show has the vibe of something that director randomly thought of one day and was like "fuck it, i am gonna thrown money on this until it becomes a show" without ever stopping to actually think about the concept and its implications, there are so many plot holes and logical inconsistencies with this, even if we ignore the obvious scientific ones, like the fact the "united" people are terrible at convincing people and roleplaying as other people despite the fact they have acess to the best acting/lying/discourse knowledge humanity has to offer. Also the show has a really bizarre balance between realism and idealism, it never truly latches into one or another, Carol and Manuosos alternate between having nearly supernatural knowledge of what to do (despite being, by all indications, everyday people) and behaving like whiny immature adults who have no idea what to do, sometimes in the same episode. Lastly why the hell is the existence of smartphones completely ignored between the the "prologue" of the first episode and that translator sequence in the last one? Why Carol can't text the united? why did she have to use a digital camcorder (who the hell has one of those in 2025?) to film her videos? Why is Manuosos' home stuck in the 1980's? I doubt anyone in urban Paraguay has an old TV from the 1980's that only accepts VHS tapes. So many questions
 
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Lastly why the hell is the existence of smartphones completely ignored between the the "prologue" of the first episode and that translator sequence in the last one? Why Carol can't text the united?
Like the first thing they tell her is that the mobile networks are down, dude. Quite possibly because they deliberately disabled potential sources of radio interference.

The realtime speech-to-speech translation software in airplane mode is dumb though.

why did she have to use a digital camcorder (who the hell has one of those in 2025?) to film her videos? Why is Manuosos' home stuck in the 1980's? I doubt anyone in urban Paraguay has an old TV from the 1980's that only accepts VHS tapes.
People had VHS players laying around well into the 2000s you zoomer dipshit. Like not necessarily plugged in (although possibly still part of dad's tower of power or in the rec room with the old tv or maybe some stupid combo dvd/vhs unit) and I'm sure that's doubly true in fucking Paraguay and about a thousand million percent true of a guy managing fucking storage units.
Presumably she did this because the networks are down and she wanted something she could physically mail and hold the plurbs to their promise. It's not like they couldn't provide a player to anyone who asked.

Although there is no actual reason for the wired internet to be down. Plurbs might be a hive mind, but any research (and some kinds of engineering) they might be doing still requires moving jiggabytes of data around for comparison and analysis. Another case of shit Vince doesn't understand.
 
Zoomies don't realize, I guess, that even in the 90s there was Tivo DVRs and sat/cable boxes. VHS time sharing was already obsolete by 98 or so. Hell, people in those old days even had DSL/cable modems with relatively high speed internet. I think most people 30- think the net and all tech started around 2010 with facebook and smart phones.

The only thing that stood out to me in this was she just flushed the SD card with her recordings intact. You'd think for sure they'd be watching her toilet action and if she was smart she'd burn it or at least drill a hole in it. I also find it hard to suspend disbelief that they're not seeing her white board writings.. I hope that, if there's a season 2 ever, they'll show that they knew exactly all that stuff she was trying to hide.

Still, I really liked the series even though there are anachronisms of technology. If there's not some longer term mindfuckery going on I'll be pretty sad. Yeah give her a nuke. She and they both should know that top yield of one wouldn't wipe out even beyond her mount view.

They got only a few options. They take her over and she looks into the camera smiling, dark ending. She trips them up with something we don't expect (good writing would be needed to do this) or they nuke world and everyone dies.

I was actually by ep 8 wondering why nobody asked about their home world, and they delivered on that. It would be a damn shame if they go lazy and make it easy to guess. The bastards are saying 2+ years between seasons and I can't stand that. Apple+ is a curse on good shows, nobody fucking has that. It's limited audience. But also if it was netflix wide spread you know it would be the stupidest stranger things ending where she goes into the hive mind with a light saber and cuts apart a giant spider.

My biggest fear I guess is that the lesbo buried in the yard becomes a zombie and rises out of the grave to force her to do shit. That grave stuff is a huge Chekov's gun potential of bullshit on how much they've shown it.
 
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I think the nuke is probably to threaten to blow herself up if they come near her with a syringe. Even though she saw the chemtrails and knows for sure that they'd think nothing of crop dusting the entire city while she's sleeping just to get her.

The only thing that stood out to me in this was she just flushed the SD card with her recordings intact. You'd think for sure they'd be watching her toilet action
I thought the same thing and then I remembered that she is an idiot.
 
I think the nuke is probably to threaten to blow herself up if they come near her with a syringe. Even though she saw the chemtrails and knows for sure that they'd think nothing of crop dusting the entire city while she's sleeping just to get her.


I thought the same thing and then I remembered that she is an idiot.
I don't really know how to feel about this show so far really. It's the first series I've actually watched on any TV past a few eps since Stranger Things season 3. I gave up on that when it started getting too gay. It's hard to be invested in these things especially when the seasons are so far apart. I don't want Carol to be a retard but that's probably what'll happen. At least back in the TNG days of cliff hangers you only had to wait 6 months max or so to get a resolution. I even gave up on Breaking Bad after 3rd season which is apparently when everyone says it was improving but I found it tedious.

At least the characters are mostly likable except the jeet woman. The African dude is even pretty good and well thought out. I actually wish they'd only have that guy, Carol, and Manousos cause the rest of them are pretty annoying. I guess I'm cautiously optimistic it won't fall apart. I'm a sucker for these kind of slow-paced sci-fi thrillers.

"Pluribus Season 2 does not have an official release date but is expected in late 2027 or early 2028, with creator Vince Gilligan and star Rhea Seehorn confirming a lengthy wait due to extensive writing and production, as scripts are still in development and filming is not imminent"

That quote makes me think they don't really have a long term plan which is usually a really bad sign.
 
I even gave up on Breaking Bad after 3rd season which is apparently when everyone says it was improving but I found it tedious.
Yeah I wouldn't get your hopes up, then. It's conceptual sci-fi written by someone who clearly has never read a sci-fi book and maybe doesn't even realise that's what he's doing.
The one hope is that it's the Breaking Bad guy and the character stuff might get interesting, but if you think BB is overrated (I agree) or notice that the show only has like two and a half characters and one and a half of them are objectively braindead... the only entertainment value I anticipate is witnessing just how badly it's going to fuck up.
 
The interesting question will be: Should you undo what has been done?

Imagine for a moment you are a guy and suddenly you have all the memories of every deviant on Earth as your own, every serial killer, every sexual act with all men and women, your own mothers memories etc. etc. and you are forced to live like that for months and then suddenly it's "undone". Do you go mad? Do you forget?

Perhaps 1/8 of the population died not because of an adverse reaction to the program but because these people were deemed unfit to be within the hive collection and were purposefully killed off, or their minds couldn't handle it and they died from shock. Or perhaps they were given the choice of dying or remaining because we know their memories were breached (Helen).

I'd suspect the solution lay in one of the episodes of Voyager with the Borg Queen when finally the captain brings down the Borg with the great line "Perhaps it was something you assimilated? and that's where the show is heading.

However, the number of people who didn't get assimilated was rather close to the figure of JC and his crew (12), so this implies the Judas will be a factor in the group as a theme.

No one knows where it is heading because it can head in multiple directions, but logic dictates that the signal was designed for the human genome, and if it arrived from 600 light years away it would have to mean the species had a human subject, or had digitalized it's genome through abduction and transmitted back giving us a minimum time line of "x" time to travel to earth, plus transmission back to the star system or transportation back, plus short research time, plus transmission back to Earth giving us a bare minimum of 1800 years at Speed of Light, or roughly...the time of Christ give or take.
 
Yeah I wouldn't get your hopes up, then. It's conceptual sci-fi written by someone who clearly has never read a sci-fi book and maybe doesn't even realise that's what he's doing.
The one hope is that it's the Breaking Bad guy and the character stuff might get interesting, but if you think BB is overrated (I agree) or notice that the show only has like two and a half characters and one and a half of them are objectively braindead... the only entertainment value I anticipate is witnessing just how badly it's going to fuck up.
Well I like Carol, she's pleasant and quirky but not too quirky. If it weren't for that actress and character I'd have bailed by ep 3. The problem I had with BB is everyone was a scumbag of some sort. I wouldn't want to be around any of them IRL for even a minute. At least with this show it 'feels' like I could have a conservation. But as I said if they retard her out in season 2 or whatever I'll be pretty ticked.
 
What did Gomie do? :'(
You know, I really don't remember any of the characters except walter and jesse. It's kind of weird cause Goodfellas is one of my all time fav movies so I like crime drama stuff, but at least those guys were 'likable' scumbags. The last series before Pluribus that I watched all the way through was the Battlestar Galactica 2003 era. Before that I guess TNG after it ended.
 
The last series before Pluribus that I watched all the way through was the Battlestar Galactica 2003 era.
Y'know when you said you haven't been watching TV I almost tried recommending something, and then I remembered that I immediately forget everything I watch as soon as the series ends now. Then I was going to sign off by saying "just watch Battlestar Galactica I guess."
 
My question is since they can unpossess someone, why haven't they, just to prove that the people actually like being a part of the whole. Carol would probably take that as definitive proof. Unpossess someone for an hour, and have them talk with her, as an individual who has been part of the thing. If that person says it's all hunky dory, after the fact, she might be inclined to listen.
Two problems:

1) She wouldn't believe anyone could be happy as part of the hivemind, so she won't accept it
2) Even assuming she could accept that claim, what proof could they offer that the person isn't connected any more? They're unlikely to do it on her terms, so there's no guarantee they aren't playing tricks.

Besides, they didn't say they could remove someone. They only tacitly admitted that the effect could be reversed or cancelled. Combined with everything else the show revealed, the implication is that they're either psychologically incapable or unwilling to disconnect individuals from their hivemind, but they know it can still be done by an external actor. It would be like cutting off a limb.
 
Two problems:

1) She wouldn't believe anyone could be happy as part of the hivemind, so she won't accept it
2) Even assuming she could accept that claim, what proof could they offer that the person isn't connected any more? They're unlikely to do it on her terms, so there's no guarantee they aren't playing tricks.

Besides, they didn't say they could remove someone. They only tacitly admitted that the effect could be reversed or cancelled. Combined with everything else the show revealed, the implication is that they're either psychologically incapable or unwilling to disconnect individuals from their hivemind, but they know it can still be done by an external actor. It would be like cutting off a limb.
They never admitted anything, they just didn't answer and started crying which can be interpreted in a number of different ways, possibly even them feeling bad if they were forced to tell Carol because she would be in true despair if she knew it was impossible. But the cunt jumps at conclusions because she believes she's 700 IQ
 
Like the first thing they tell her is that the mobile networks are down, dude. Quite possibly because they deliberately disabled potential sources of radio interference.
there are several text options, even fucking discord (Lol) or telegram or signal or something, much better than phoning them in, also they definitely kept the internet running the black playboy guy tells her the survivors do zoom meetings
People had VHS players laying around well into the 2000s you zoomer dipshit.
VHS has been a dead format since 2005, there is no way someone in an urban region has an old TV that only accepts tapes and not CDs, maybe i could see it happening in some deep rural area shithole or something, but a man in a city? no, also the entire look of the Paraguay scenes is extremelly anachronistic, the TV is just the most obvious example i could think of , those scenes don't look like they are set in the 2020's at all.
Although there is no actual reason for the wired internet to be down. Plurbs might be a hive mind, but any research (and some kinds of engineering) they might be doing still requires moving jiggabytes of data around for comparison and analysis. Another case of shit Vince doesn't understand.
correct, thats one of the many bizarre logical inconsistencies in this show, usually i hate to focus on stuff like this because its autistic and reddit to do, but in this show the plot holes and inconsistencies are glaring and just make it hard to take the whole thing seriously, it really feels like the director couldn't bother to actually think trough what was happening in the show.
 
VHS has been a dead format since 2005, there is no way someone in an urban region has an old TV that only accepts tapes and not CDs, maybe i could see it happening in some deep rural area shithole or something, but a man in a city? no, also the entire look of the Paraguay scenes is extremelly anachronistic, the TV is just the most obvious example i could think of , those scenes don't look like they are set in the 2020's at all.
yeah and sega's master system was discontinued in the 90s but you go to brazil and they still sell master systems
 
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