Culture Patreon’s Ban on “Anime” Art - War on Anime Intensifies

Patreon Is Being Asked to Ban Child Rape Animators — 37,000+ Have Signed the Petition

Anime content is being banned on Patreon now too, allegedly..

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Patreon's coming for everyone now.

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Where should Patreon draw the line?
Patreon is a great platform for creators, especially those with strong, loyal fanbases that want to directly support artists. Musician Jack Conte and developer Sam Yam are the founders of Patreon, and the concept was created because creators were getting stiffed by low-paying platforms like YouTube.

But they’re also getting censored, de-monetized, or de-emphasized if they don’t comply with the rules of YouTube, Facebook, or any other platform. Now, Patreon is being asked to issue its own set of policies around certain kinds of content.

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Patreon’s creators are extremely varied. YouTube videographers, writers, webcomic artists, podcasters, musicians, and many other creative types connect with targeted audiences through Patreon. And the system is simple: the creators can receive funding directly from their fans, or patrons. They can be paid on a recurring basis or per work of art.

The result? Many artists and creators feel that they are able better express themselves and get paid while doing so. In fact, more than a million active users and 50,000 monthly active creators make Patreon a seriously popular solution for artists. At present, Patreon estimates a staggering $150,000,000 is earned by artists on their platform annually.

Sounds great, except some fringe artists are attracting a lot of negative attention. Journalist Vonny Leclerc first discovered something disturbing: a ‘no pornography’ policy by the company wasn’t being enforced. That started the ball rolling.


+ Sorry, You Can’t Fund Your Fetish Porn Site on Patreon Anymore

Patreon has already clamped down on fetish porn site creators, though shocked onlookers are noticing something far more extreme.

Horrific acts of child rape depicted in animation.
Many of these artists are defending their right to create animations depicting child rape, torture, and other activities. Of course, actually doing these acts is completely illegal, but what about drawing it?

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These artists also say they’re creating works for patrons that are demanding it. And it turns out that patrons have been requesting all sorts of pervasive acts from creators. These now include horrific acts of child rape, personalized abuse fantasies, and acts of violence.

Lecler says it’s gone too far. “There are more and more violent, hyper-realistic animations being uploaded all the time,” he shared. “I wondered who had the time, now I can see people are making a living out of creating animated rape and snuff films.”

Lecler says Patreon is not only ignoring these activities, they are encouraging them.

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More than 37,000 thousand people have signed the petition demanding that Patreon stop people from selling child abuse animations through their platform.
The petition has been gaining steam, with more than 10,000 signatures arriving in the past 24 hours. Care2Petitions is hosting this particular protest.

According to the petition, this actually goes way beyond child rape illustrations. It also includes artwork of brutal killings, eye-gouging, other forms of rape… the list goes on. Lecler says one prominent artist is earning over $20,000 a month depicting extreme violence.

Here’s a quick excerpt of the petition page:

This is so many levels of disturbing: that these men can make it without caring, and that others buy it. Patreon is helping facilitate the creation of personalised abuse fantasies. One person [I found] is making $20,000 plus a month making adult games. Many making serious bucks.

What does it tell us about society, about sex and capitalism, that the most lucrative animation careers can come from made-to-order pornography? If you want to understand the things men wish they could do to us, look at the porn they create when they don’t have to use real women.

Patreon is being used to fund realistic animations of rape, eye-gouging, torture. Home-invasion when young women are shot in the face and then raped. @Patreon know about this. What’s being done? I can find hundreds of accounts making this kind of content.”


So where should Patreon draw the line?
Technically, this artwork isn’t illegal — at least in the United States. A picture depicting extreme violence may be extremely distasteful, but an artist has the right to create it. Once that crosses into depicted child pornography, however, a judge may have to decide.

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Another legal counter-argument relates to the actual harm done. If patrons and artists exist in an insular environment, one free of actual crime, it’s possible this group is merely acting out gruesome fantasies without dragging people into them. Some of the artwork in question violates Patreon’s pornography policy, though not all of it does.

+ Less Than 2% of Content Creators on Patreon Earn Monthly Minimum Wage

If that artwork is connected to actual crimes — or worse, if it’s depicting real events — then there’s a much different level of enforcement that’s needed.

Now, Patreon is undoubtedly going to be forced to respond — and make tough decisions that balance the broader interests of the community.

More as this develops.

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Most of the woker manga I've read does something the Western equivalent doesn't. That is telling a decent story and treating minority characters as people. Suicide Island is a pretty good example. There's a transwoman in there. She isn't treated as something to worship nor is she treated as a degenerate subhuman. She's treated as a person just as mentally damaged as the rest of the cast.
 
Looks like Pixiv Plus will be getting a lot of new members. Pretty much all anime artists should just move over to Pixiv. Hilariously, Patreon is just going to fuck itself into the dirt with these changes.

Oh, I have no doubt that anime will have more alterations to appeal to the Chinese audiences but I don't think we'll get the "woke" shit you see in Western media, at least not as much.

Radfem misandry isn't popular in the predominantly patriarchal East Asian countries and outside of South Korea, feminism in general is pretty fringe in that region. Both China and Japan are very much non-feminist

Anti-White racism is a moot point when both the source country and the main country they're exporting to are both majority Asian.

Pro-Black/Pro-Indigenous rhetoric and the SJW hallmarks of lesbians, trannies, and "gender queer" punk shit will not pop up in anime because it's all extremely verboten (and often illegal) in China and is looked down upon in Japan.

The main "woke" hallmarks I can see coming to anime is less fanservice and no anti-CCP sentiment, assuming that COVID-19 combined with a second term of Trump (with the trade war that would inevitably ensue) wouldn't severely weaken the Chinese market.

Even then, anime is all about profit but you still occasionally see the more "edgy" titles because they know they can charge extra for the otaku market in Japan wanting more collector merch and because that shit is likely to sell in America, especially if the "Woke Culture" fad continues to lose favor with the masses (as it is, it's mainly being propped up by corporatist interests trying to influence politics and by the Chinese market)

Like, I don't see anime ever becoming as fully "woke" as Western geek media like capeshit or "CalArts" Tumblr cartoons. But I do see the majority of titles toning things down to appeal to the Chinese mainland audiences.

I mean, anime itself has toned down a lot before. Even the most risque of fanservice comedies and the more TV-MA isekai and harem stuff of the 2000's and 2010's can't hold a candle to the "OVA Boom" titles of the 80's and 90's, which was the majority trend of the anime market in both Japan and the United States in the late 80's and early 90's.

The OVA Boom was known for both extreme violence and gore, dark and "edgy" subject matter with often bizarre storylines, and lots of nudity and sexuality. Plus companies like Central Park Media, Manga Entertainment, and ADV would "punch up" the dubs to add extra profanity back in the day.

The OVA Boom was kind of like the anime equivalent of golden era of grindhouse exploitation films in America and parts of Europe back in the 70's and early 80's.

To be honest. and I know everyone will call me optimistic for thinking this, I think it's possible to see a return to low-budget "edgy" independent movies and web series in general once COVID-19 has fully blown over, and I think the corporate bigwigs hate that idea since the pandemic has severely damaged their finances and could open up a parallel market for independent creators who can give an alternative to the bland "woke" slop that is being cranked out.

Really, I think the Patreon crackdowns are the result of the major media corporations trying to preemptively prevent a parallel market from popping up...

Or it's also just as likely (if not more likely) that there's a lot of pretentious punks, furries, and trannies at Patreon who are using their hyper-woke views to target any media they deem "problematic" and using sexual mores as a figleaf to appeal to the suits and other major higher-ups to back their play.

I'd wager most of the suits are under the impression it's just a blanket ban on extreme porn and not just some dangerhairs and bearded four-eyed men lumping all anime as "problematic hate speech/pedo rape porn" even if said anime and manga artwork is completely SFW apolitical PG and PG-13 stuff and the characters depicted are explicitly identified as adults.


The fact they're stalking Patreon artists and censuring them for behaviors off-site is creepy as fuck and really sounds like something you'd see from the woke zealots and tranny jannies over at RPG.net or ResetEra so I honestly think the Patreon crackdowns are just some Millennial wokesters who are high-up enough in the company to pursue this weird "stalker girlfriend meets KGB secret police" policy but just low enough that they can't outright say they're targeting anime-style artwork completely

The Amazon bans are likely either trolls flagging the algorithm or some other algorithm hiccup since it seems to mainly go after a specific LN series, but I may have to do some research on that and see what else develops.

Japan is incredibly xenophobic and the SJW mentality is a foreign mentality in the East, even Eastern Europe. The farther from the West you get, the more alien the concept. China is a bigger threat than the West when it comes to censorship.

I maintain my theory that the Amazon shit is a rogue Karen because kicking 'No Game No Life', one of the most popular LNs off the platform is pants on head retarded.
 
I believe Stars Align bombed pretty bad with Japanese audiences and won't be getting a second season Thank God.

I too worry about the poz infecting Japan, especially in the media. There's a certain subsection of Japanese society that try to import western ideas wholesale without any given thought or criticism; just the fact that it's "western" makes it good enough. When I saw western style drag queens in a manga I was reading I could feel the steam coming out my ears as once again I found myself notching myself a few more degrees to being more right wing.
 
You know, I used to associate anime with degeneracy (and in some ways I still do), however this ban speaks a lot what the leadership thinks of the anime genre.

The anime genre is mostly unaffected by woke culture, since its source is a country that is very conservative at its very core (and one of the reasons I think they were able to thrive on such small island is because of said conservative culture). They usually say "no" to most leftist goals like open borders and "great replacement" (they rather focus on solving the low birth numbers themselves than import a bunch of chimps from outside that dont match their culture). So in a weird however unintentional way, anime has become a conservative media for the world and Patreon, being the soycialist pigs that they are, see anime as a threat and thus something to be censored.

But then again, Patreon, unlike youtube, has competing websites so...good job losing them numbers, Patreon, you get what you fucking deserve.
 
A reminder that for all the shit we give 4KIDS, their censorship was done out of a necessity to air anime on public American television and it was not done out of malice and hatred for the intended audience. Can't say the same for China and these insane business practices.
 
China just confuses me. They censor the shit out stuff but then they go off and make shit like Azur Lane and those yaoi chinese cultivation novels.

You must understand that to keep their people obedient there cant be "other" options, there cant be "other" places but glorious China. Why the hell do you think they banned video games until very recently? Not only they are products from beyond the glorious China but they offer ideals of freedom, justice and other concepts that are a big no-no to daddy China. Thats why they make their bootlegs to try to convince their sheep that you can and will only consume what they produce.

Its all about control and blinding the people to a larger world
 
While child fucking animations are bad, they do not actually hurt kids. What does hurt kids is when there is nothing preventing most children from accessing pornography, or being exposed it by accident. Yes, we should kill pedophiles, but the issue of conventional porn does far more harm to kids right now than these patron animators.
 
China just confuses me. They censor the shit out stuff but then they go off and make shit like Azur Lane and those yaoi chinese cultivation novels.
Isn't Yostar and many of those gaming companies HK?
Also China is all over the place with stuff it censors, but it mostly focuses on stuff coming from the outside that will be delivered to its citizens.
People talk about china making skeletons illegal, but go into your garage and look at all your spooky halloween shit. All made in china, all skeletons. Because thats stuff made in china and exported to other countries. Its only (mostly) imports that concern the censors.
 
You know what really boils my blood? The illogical notion that the ability to express a desire is the cause of the desire itself. It's a complete logical abortion. An abominable inversion of cause-and-effect. In their magical-thinking-riddled minds, get rid of GTA and we'll have no more murders.

This is so many levels of disturbing: that these men can make it without caring, and that others buy it. Patreon is helping facilitate the creation of personalised abuse fantasies. One person [I found] is making $20,000 plus a month making adult games. Many making serious bucks.
Nobody's getting hurt, fucktard. It's hard enough being an artist as it is. Chances are they have no other choice and don't even like what they're drawing. Porn is the least possible effort for the most possible money. It's an indirect handjob, promising young artists crushed by the realizations of life to the point where they've got to whore out their talents to the highest bidder. It's sad, I know, but there isn't anything morally wrong.

What does it tell us about society, about sex and capitalism, that the most lucrative animation careers can come from made-to-order pornography? If you want to understand the things men wish they could do to us, look at the porn they create when they don’t have to use real women.
I'd say it tells us more about human nature in general. Human nature which you have so blatantly ignored. As it turns out, we desire things that we cannot do in real life. Do we play RPGs with settings identical to real life? Is our escapism limited to Seinfield and Slice-of-Life anime? Absolutely nothing. Women don't get hurt at all. Real porn involves them getting trafficked, extorted, and exploited, while drawn pornography requires some fool to dawdle around on his tablet for an hour or two. Would you rather have real life consequences or fantasy consequences? The choice is up to you. Either you can squeal and whine about icky toons the boys have, or prevent women from actually being harmed by cutting money out of the industry.

We don't actually wish to do this to you. It's the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without actually believing it. Humans are disgusting and vile. It's frankly amusing you've learned this for the first time in your life. Have you ever wanted to hurl your boss through a woodchipper? This is arguably the same thing, because believe it or not, thinking isn't the same thing as doing.

Patreon is being used to fund realistic animations of rape, eye-gouging, torture. Home-invasion when young women are shot in the face and then raped. @Patreon know about this. What’s being done? I can find hundreds of accounts making this kind of content.”
And? None of this is happening in real life. It's disgusting, it's morbid, but it should be allowed to exist. Because you can't destroy human nature by burying it. You can't hide something away and claim that it doesn't exist. All you're doing is pushing it away from your precious little eyes. You inability to distinguish fantasy and reality, and the fact that you've projected that inability on the rest of us has proven your intelligence.

I don't like any of this myself. Guro is sick and disgusting, and I can only wonder what combinations of genetics and poor upbringing may bring someone to enjoy that kind of stuff, but honestly, learn to tell fantasy from reality before you claim that the rest of us can't.

You don't suggest solutions to the problems which create a demand for pornography. What you're doing can be best analogized to cutting away the plant and leave the roots intact, and congratulating yourself for doing such a good job. You don't solve problems in the long term. You just whine so someone with more authority than you can cut away the surface level effects so you can get that rush of instant gratification.
 
And? None of this is happening in real life. It's disgusting, it's morbid, but it should be allowed to exist. Because you can't destroy human nature by burying it. You can't hide something away and claim that it doesn't exist. All you're doing is pushing it away from your precious little eyes. You inability to distinguish fantasy and reality, and the fact that you've projected that inability on the rest of us has proven your intelligence.
The cancelling artists for anime tiddies also goes to the "You must draw more woke shit" territory. I got one bud who draws anime tiddy and porn (not a big name) and he has repetedly said that he doesn't draw homoerotic shit because he doesn't like it, which made him eat a lot of flak for it. But thankfully, he stood his ground and kept making chicks getting nailed left and right.

And is the guy that made 20K a month Fenoxo? IIRC he was the highest earner in Patreon thanks to his fucked up porn games.
Considering just how degenerate and fucked up hentai can be, monogamous homosexual relations is fucking normie-tier shit.
As fucked up as hentai can get with amazing titles like "Legal rape", "Give me your c*m" or "Euphoria", some of the most fucked up shit i've seen in my life has been at the hands of western artists. And i'm not talking about the stuff you see in the SJW art thread. Sure, the japs have girls getting fucked by horsecocks and deformed monsters, but that beats the hell out of Mpreg and homoerotic violent rape.
 
IDK, anything that involves gender-bending (forced or otherwise) and futas is about as fucked up there.
 
Sure, the japs have girls getting fucked by horsecocks and deformed monsters, but that beats the hell out of Mpreg and homoerotic violent rape.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but fujoshis are a fucking wacko bunch. Just google "omegaverse".

Personally imo the difference is that most don't try to justify it as anything more as degenerate entertainment. They're not trying to spread awareness or anything, its a dj not a washington post article.
 
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Sorry to have to break it to you, but fujoshis are a fucking wacko bunch.
Ok, i haven't delved much into the fujo world mainly out of disinterest on homoerotic stuff, but i know about the "Abusive boyfriend" fetishes, the crosdressing frenzies they enjoy and the occasional love for the "Gramps i'd like to fuck". But don't reveal more, i'm too afraid of staring into that abyss.
 
It was meant to be 2-cour but got crammed into 1. Either way, you shouldn't see a failure on the mainstage as a total failure, the fact that they got to the mainstage in the first place is a victory for the ideology.
You may have a point if the failure was in America, where leftist failure is at least seen as a moral victory. There's no excuse for failure in Japan and their manga and anime industry. Even once popular titles will get ruthlessly pulled out if they don't meet sales expectation. It doesn't take Japan that much time to see a failing trend, and it either gets shitcanned or relegated to fringe publications that only wierdos are interested in.

You don't see fags in Naruto, and the ones in One Piece are there for comedy relief.
 
Patreon Asserts They Own Content Creators Brand and Content According to Slugbox
Patreon Asserts They Own Content Creators Brand and Content According to Slugbox
July 18, 2020 Kevin

Well renowned artist Slugbox has announced he will be leaving Patreon. In statements picked up by Sankaku Complex, Slugbox explains how Patreon has made his life miserable, in what he describes as a likely attempt to get him to voluntarily retire from the platform.


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Everything he does, he claims Patreon monitors. Preventing him from interacting with his community and fans without having to walk on eggshells over everything he says or does. As an artist, this is particularly troublesome as it can and often does leave fans filling jilted or slighted, resulting in them taking their money to artists who are more engaged with their community.

The site has even gone so far as to ban Cteno, one of his oldest and most beloved original creations. Their justification? She’s an animal, on account she doesn’t have breasts.

Compounding the issues he has faced with the site, a recent terms of service update gives Patreon ownership over content creators’ brand and material. Allowing them to dictate where and when you can operate.

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Big Changes & Platform Switching! 2020-06-28 12:47

I’m making this post against my financial judgement, but out of respect for myself and you all, who have supported me so much over the years. The large issue here on this platform is that they’ve recently attempted to exercise a scary amount of financial and public control over me. Keeping this site as my main source of income is no longer an option for financial AND personal reasons.

Essentially, under the modern Terms of Service here, “slugbox” becomes a “project” that belongs to Patreon. Meaning they reserve the right to dictate where slugbox can operate, where slugbox can make money, and how can slugbox can make money, and then hold my success here as a hostage. If I make ANY income here, they own EVERYTHING I do elsewhere as well. Obviously this is designed to prevent competition from other platforms, where I am obviously also active. This is… really ugly…

As per the rules, I do not directly link my other projects and never have, but I will be moving the VAST majority of my support system to SubscribeStar, as well as an idea to run my OCs over on OnlyFans. Might take on some commissions to fill the gaps…

The fact I’ve never linked these sites from here wouldn’t matter anyway. There was a conflict with a service I used back in 2014. Six years ago. The service isn’t ACTIVE anymore. The link was HENTAIFOUNDRY, which I haven’t even used in… years and years…?? That’s not even this same site?? Last year they flagged Cteno, my own OC, as inappropriate because she doesn’t have any breasts. It’s why I haven’t drawn her as much here. That… that’s no way to live… I’ve been happy to bend my work to the needs of any singular platform to achieve success, but I cannot stand for a platform demanding 100% loyalty and control, especially in a creative field, and even more so in an adult content field.

I’m doubtful of this post. I feel like I have a gun to my head and can only say nice things. If they‘re stalking my abandoned HENTAIFOUNDRY, of course they’re reading this. The past few days have been rough because of this. I do not feel able to communicate with you guys, my supporters who I love, ANYWHERE, let alone here. It’s a very “They’re watching” feeling. But this is no way to live or be creative, especially in a field like this. I feel like I have to lie to you all, and I have been forced to be uninformative as a result.

But I‘m saying it anyway because you all deserve to know the truth, and if possible it’d be good if you guys went to SubscribeStar and got rewarded before the month ticks over.

In an encourage-to-move measure, I’m going to drastically cut the content released here for the next month or so, assuming they let me stay, and then likely suspend this “project.” I can’t afford to just CUT it suddenly yet… But this policy is not something I can in good faith encourage. SubscribeStar will run as it always has, and you should move there if you can. I’ll have some revamped tiers there too while I’m making the best of this situation.

I just didn’t want you guys to be charged another month without knowing what’s going on. Thank you for all of the support over the years! I couldn’t ask to work for better people than you all. 2020 is really bad huh?

I definitely feel this is part of a purge of the midrange adult content. The big names aren’t going to have trouble yet, and the smaller artists aren’t worth going after yet… but here in the middle…?

Pretty scared right now, abandoning all I’ve built is… a bad feeling… but it’s the right thing to do long term. And I want to be honest with you all about it. You deserve that.

– slugbox



Payments Paused and The Final Hour 2020-07-01 13:04

PAYMENTS PAUSED

THIS PATREON IS PROBABLY ENDING THIS MONTH

DO NOT SUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE A NEW PERSON!!!

I was hoping to resolve this BEFORE July’s payments went through, but Patreon hasn’t been very helpful or prompt. Which I’m taking as further signs they want me to “voluntarily retire.” As such, I will continue to deliver this coming month’s rewards, although some will be in limited capacity due to their sudden change of heart about me in particular, but then probably unlaunch this page. And I can only do this at THEIR leisure. This page might get suspended at any time! I am asking them to give me a month though. BUT BAIL NOW. If you have a pledge, move it to Subscribestar! Where I will be active for the time being! If you do not want to switch over, that is fine!

I don’t think I can rectify Patreon’s ambiguous selective enforcement. (My own OCs are inappropriate??? Cteno is an animal??? I can’t draw her anywhere, not even here??? Other people can draw shortstack furry all day though??? If they make a lot of money??? I can’t use other platforms??? Other services??? Suddenly at the same time they’re doing merch fulfillment???), and I can’t afford to delete my entire backlog of work all over the internet to appease them. Nor can I afford that and still be able to grow while having my income held hostage.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS! But Patreon’s refusal to enforce all of their guidelines evenly, and unwillingnessto allow income on other platforms is not longer something I can ethically live with. Let alone financially…

I am so sorry for this inconvenience, but I definitely feel we are no longer welcome here. And they are forcing me out by making using the site impossible to use, instead of outright removing me. Which, hey, they might still do. So again, switch to SubscribeStar, or at least remove your pledges!

Thank you all again for everything!

– slugbox

Slugbox has a long-established reputation in the art community, but one need not take his word alone on these behaviors from Patreon. Even though he is not the first and likely won’t be the last Patreon themselves states they carry out the behaviors described in Slugbox’s posts.

Abusive Conduct

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Don’t do anything illegal, abusive towards others, or that abuses our site in a technical way. If you are a creator raising funds on Patreon, we may be held accountable for what you do with those funds. As a result, we also look at what you do with your membership off our platform.

Your creations

TLDR: You keep complete ownership of all creations, but you give us permission to use them on Patreon. Make sure you have permission to use creations that you offer on Patreon.

You keep full ownership of all creations that you offer on Patreon, but we need licenses from you to operate Patreon effectively.

By posting creations on Patreon you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, sublicensable, worldwide license to use, reproduce, distribute, perform, publicly display or prepare derivative works of your creation. The purpose of this license is strictly limited to allow us to provide and promote memberships to your patrons. We will never try to steal your creations or use them in an exploitative way.

You may not post creations that infringe others’ intellectual property or proprietary rights.

Patrons may not use creations posted by creators in any way not authorized by the creator.

Let’s review the highlighted passage.

Royalty Free: Patreon doesn’t have to pay the creators to use their content.

Perpetual: this agreement has no termination date.

Irrevocable: users cannot terminate this agreement.

Non-exclusive: you can license, sell, and distribute your content through other channels.

Sublicensable: Patreon can license out any creator’s content.

Worldwide license to use reproduce, distribute, perform, publicly display: Patreon is allowed to make use of, distribute, or perform your works for their profit.

Prepare derivative works of your creation: Patreon is allowed to create knockoffs of any creation made utilizing the platform. This means even if you own the copyright for your creation, they are legally entitled to create, directly or through licensing, any derivative utilizing your franchise.

As insane as this is, everything Slugbox claims is directly stated in Patreon’s policies. The reason Patreon is policing what users do offsite so vindictively is that under these terms, the legal argument could be made that they are a publisher, not a service. As a global company, by their own admission, they can be dragged into court over content violations in the nationals in which they operate.

If you are an artist and you haven’t already, get off Patreon before the platform implodes. You are better off taking the hit in the short term than scrambling when the – by their own words unsustainable – platform croaks after losing too many content creators.

(Thanks for the tip msoltys)
 
I recall pixiv did something vaguely similar that led to a lot of artists leaving the platform, namely pixiv declared some level of ownership over art posted on the site. Obviously pixiv doesn't keep a social credit score of its users and just about anything is allowed.
I can't imagine using patreon for any reason after this revelation, though. But I think a lot of people will stick around, thinking that these rules are for getting rid of wrong think and not giving a corporation complete control over their livelihood.
 
Fucking lol, holy shit. Everyone should leave Patreon NOW. They 'own' your work for acting as a middle-man? Fuck off.
 
I recall pixiv did something vaguely similar that led to a lot of artists leaving the platform, namely pixiv declared some level of ownership over art posted on the site. Obviously pixiv doesn't keep a social credit score of its users and just about anything is allowed.
I can't imagine using patreon for any reason after this revelation, though. But I think a lot of people will stick around, thinking that these rules are for getting rid of wrong think and not giving a corporation complete control over their livelihood.
Yeah, this reads less like Patreon "going woke" and more usual corporate over-reaction for fear of getting sued.

I long for the day social media faux-rage gets assigned to the same trash bin as letter write ins.

And monitoring what it's users do off-site is bullshit.

Honestly I wonder if this will hurt Patreon, Tumbler's similar "corporate is scared shitless" porn ban essentially killed the site.
 
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