Culture Patreon’s Ban on “Anime” Art - War on Anime Intensifies

Patreon Is Being Asked to Ban Child Rape Animators — 37,000+ Have Signed the Petition

Anime content is being banned on Patreon now too, allegedly..

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Patreon's coming for everyone now.

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Where should Patreon draw the line?
Patreon is a great platform for creators, especially those with strong, loyal fanbases that want to directly support artists. Musician Jack Conte and developer Sam Yam are the founders of Patreon, and the concept was created because creators were getting stiffed by low-paying platforms like YouTube.

But they’re also getting censored, de-monetized, or de-emphasized if they don’t comply with the rules of YouTube, Facebook, or any other platform. Now, Patreon is being asked to issue its own set of policies around certain kinds of content.

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Patreon’s creators are extremely varied. YouTube videographers, writers, webcomic artists, podcasters, musicians, and many other creative types connect with targeted audiences through Patreon. And the system is simple: the creators can receive funding directly from their fans, or patrons. They can be paid on a recurring basis or per work of art.

The result? Many artists and creators feel that they are able better express themselves and get paid while doing so. In fact, more than a million active users and 50,000 monthly active creators make Patreon a seriously popular solution for artists. At present, Patreon estimates a staggering $150,000,000 is earned by artists on their platform annually.

Sounds great, except some fringe artists are attracting a lot of negative attention. Journalist Vonny Leclerc first discovered something disturbing: a ‘no pornography’ policy by the company wasn’t being enforced. That started the ball rolling.


+ Sorry, You Can’t Fund Your Fetish Porn Site on Patreon Anymore

Patreon has already clamped down on fetish porn site creators, though shocked onlookers are noticing something far more extreme.

Horrific acts of child rape depicted in animation.
Many of these artists are defending their right to create animations depicting child rape, torture, and other activities. Of course, actually doing these acts is completely illegal, but what about drawing it?

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These artists also say they’re creating works for patrons that are demanding it. And it turns out that patrons have been requesting all sorts of pervasive acts from creators. These now include horrific acts of child rape, personalized abuse fantasies, and acts of violence.

Lecler says it’s gone too far. “There are more and more violent, hyper-realistic animations being uploaded all the time,” he shared. “I wondered who had the time, now I can see people are making a living out of creating animated rape and snuff films.”

Lecler says Patreon is not only ignoring these activities, they are encouraging them.

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More than 37,000 thousand people have signed the petition demanding that Patreon stop people from selling child abuse animations through their platform.
The petition has been gaining steam, with more than 10,000 signatures arriving in the past 24 hours. Care2Petitions is hosting this particular protest.

According to the petition, this actually goes way beyond child rape illustrations. It also includes artwork of brutal killings, eye-gouging, other forms of rape… the list goes on. Lecler says one prominent artist is earning over $20,000 a month depicting extreme violence.

Here’s a quick excerpt of the petition page:

This is so many levels of disturbing: that these men can make it without caring, and that others buy it. Patreon is helping facilitate the creation of personalised abuse fantasies. One person [I found] is making $20,000 plus a month making adult games. Many making serious bucks.

What does it tell us about society, about sex and capitalism, that the most lucrative animation careers can come from made-to-order pornography? If you want to understand the things men wish they could do to us, look at the porn they create when they don’t have to use real women.

Patreon is being used to fund realistic animations of rape, eye-gouging, torture. Home-invasion when young women are shot in the face and then raped. @Patreon know about this. What’s being done? I can find hundreds of accounts making this kind of content.”


So where should Patreon draw the line?
Technically, this artwork isn’t illegal — at least in the United States. A picture depicting extreme violence may be extremely distasteful, but an artist has the right to create it. Once that crosses into depicted child pornography, however, a judge may have to decide.

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Another legal counter-argument relates to the actual harm done. If patrons and artists exist in an insular environment, one free of actual crime, it’s possible this group is merely acting out gruesome fantasies without dragging people into them. Some of the artwork in question violates Patreon’s pornography policy, though not all of it does.

+ Less Than 2% of Content Creators on Patreon Earn Monthly Minimum Wage

If that artwork is connected to actual crimes — or worse, if it’s depicting real events — then there’s a much different level of enforcement that’s needed.

Now, Patreon is undoubtedly going to be forced to respond — and make tough decisions that balance the broader interests of the community.

More as this develops.

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Wait...they're trying to ban Sword Art Online? The TV-PG anime that was cleared to air on basic cable with only one episode of the third series needing to be edited for broadcast? I get why they wanted to go after ecchi LN's and manga and even Goblin Slayer given how much they hated it over the pilot episode. But SAO? That's one of the most basic weeb shows out there, and is only one step away from the normie-friendly anime like DBZ, Naruto, Sailor Moon, etc.

These people are insane and if this is affecting American outlets as well, someone should try and use the "colonialism" argument against the Woke Leftists who support this, just to make their dyed heads spin and if they try to invoke "it's for the children!" then accuse them of being a colonialist trying to impose White Western values onto a foreign non-Western culture. That'll do the trick. Bonus points if you do this using a burner account with a female username and a non-anime avatar (since they won't be able to pull the "lol anime avatar, opinion invalidated" excuse)

TL;DR-Australia Delenda Est
 
Wait...they're trying to ban Sword Art Online? The TV-PG anime that was cleared to air on basic cable with only one episode of the third series needing to be edited for broadcast? I get why they wanted to go after ecchi LN's and manga and even Goblin Slayer given how much they hated it over the pilot episode. But SAO? That's one of the most basic weeb shows out there, and is only one step away from the normie-friendly anime like DBZ, Naruto, Sailor Moon, etc.

These people are insane and if this is affecting American outlets as well, someone should try and use the "colonialism" argument against the Woke Leftists who support this, just to make their dyed heads spin and if they try to invoke "it's for the children!" then accuse them of being a colonialist trying to impose White Western values onto a foreign non-Western culture. That'll do the trick. Bonus points if you do this using a burner account with a female username and a non-anime avatar (since they won't be able to pull the "lol anime avatar, opinion invalidated" excuse)

TL;DR-Australia Delenda Est

I believe it is the stupid feminist rule of fan service. They accept yaio. & slice of life hate yuri & fan service for men & shounen Protag , actual gender norms, large breast women, men doing better than women in comics, women recieing just deserts( Consquenciences for their actions).
They believe minority & Women should be shown in a Infallibile (can do no wrong) & fits their world view.
That feminst & SJW believe that anime is never inclusive & goes beond geneder norms or worth anything and only explotive women &rape Fantasies.
They actual do break norm but, hidden by layers of novel & artist & Japan is run by meritocracy ex:

Besides Hourou Musuko(which I thought was a bit overrated), there's Yuureitou(ftm, good), Claudine(ftm, dated/tragic), Kyou Kara Yonshimai(mtf, personal fav), Bokura no Hentai(mtf, really dark), Family Compo(all of the above, but dated), Ai no Shintairiku(mtf, shitty), Kawase & Me(mtf, hentai). If you go into ongoing stuff there's Shinagami Tasogare(nonbinary, incredibly good).

If you want to expand this into gender-bender stuff with serious themes on gender identity/dysphoria(so not explicitly trans characters, but touch in the space), you can add Kanojo ni Naru hi(mtf, very mixed quality), Shishunki Bitter Change(mtf/ftm, pretty good and dark), Kashimashi(mtf, light shoujo romance), Nozomu Nozomi(mtf, fairly graphic ecchi), Bra Girls/Swing Girls(explicit mtf metaphor, also ecchi and mixed opinion), After School Nightmare(intersex, metaphorical), um...
 
So, Patreon's going full ResetEra because the Woke Left hates anime but it looks more and more like a lot of the Amazon stuff is a couple of rogue Karens doing their own thing and is largely an entirely separate thing from Patreon's zealotry.

I see a lot of this stuff seems to be mentioning the Australian market so I can probably rule out Hollywood or Silicon Valley trying to preemptively destroy competition for now, but I won't be surprised if they also hop on the bandwagon, especially Disney since they control Marvel (and the MCU has been their main gravy train for years) and are the most woke of the entire lot.

Don't you find it interesting that Governments, Amazon and Patreon seem to be so up in arms about drawn CP. And yet when actual CP in on their doorstep, you barely hear a peep from anyone?

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I mean it's not hard for a Karen to try and raise more awareness for child trafficking on pornhub and other online places. Shouldn't this be the big issue? Not banning SAO? I think theres more to it than companies simply afraid of being sued.
 
LOL, she thinks the audience for that kind of thing is just men.:smug:
This bitch needs to take a look at fanfiction sites some of the most fucked up porn I've seen on there has been written by women. *Alpha/Omega shit,Mpreg etc *

Hell should men start bitching about the fucked up porn women write about us?
 
Meanwhile Go Nagai knows how to deal with these crazies because he's been the thorn in the side of Japanese parental groups since the late-'60s, but he's getting too old for this kind of shit.
 
These people are insane and if this is affecting American outlets as well, someone should try and use the "colonialism" argument against the Woke Leftists who support this, just to make their dyed heads spin and if they try to invoke "it's for the children!" then accuse them of being a colonialist trying to impose White Western values onto a foreign non-Western culture. That'll do the trick. Bonus points if you do this using a burner account with a female username and a non-anime avatar (since they won't be able to pull the "lol anime avatar, opinion invalidated" excuse)


The only culture they believe in is Western. It's why they get pissed when Japanese game critics liked Ghost of Tsushima when they wanted to complain it was cultural appropriation and whatever else. They'll only accept foreign cultures if they're essentially costumes being worn by westerners.
 
Meanwhile Go Nagai knows how to deal with these crazies because he's been the thorn in the side of Japanese parental groups since the late-'60s, but he's getting too old for this kind of shit.
Ignore them,make fun of them, then piss them off more.

American media had this down to a science in the 90s and 2000s when this shit was coming from Right Wing fundies now 20-30 years later the same people who made their careers mocking this shit can't fall to their knees fast enough when the outrage mob squeals.

What the fuck happened?
 
Ignore them,make fun of them, then piss them off more.

American media had this down to a science in the 90s and 2000s when this shit was coming from Right Wing fundies now 20-30 years later the same people who made their careers mocking this shit can't fall to their knees fast enough when the outrage mob squeals.

What the fuck happened?

Twitter happened.
 
Ignore them,make fun of them, then piss them off more.

American media had this down to a science in the 90s and 2000s when this shit was coming from Right Wing fundies now 20-30 years later the same people who made their careers mocking this shit can't fall to their knees fast enough when the outrage mob squeals.

What the fuck happened?

Honestly, I'd say it's a mix of Twitter amplifying the screeching of a vocal minority and for a lot of the older media personalities, they honestly were totally blindsided by the emergence of left-wing moral authoritarians. For them, the idea of left-wing moral guardians seems impossible or improbable in America and they got completely subverted or underestimated how unhinged the SJW's are. Combine that with the noise generated by the Twitter mobs, and they honestly think this is what the majority wants
 
Honestly, I'd say it's a mix of Twitter amplifying the screeching of a vocal minority and for a lot of the older media personalities, they honestly were totally blindsided by the emergence of left-wing moral authoritarians. For them, the idea of left-wing moral guardians seems impossible or improbable in America and they got completely subverted or underestimated how unhinged the SJW's are. Combine that with the noise generated by the Twitter mobs, and they honestly think this is what the majority wants

Saying it's a vocal minority makes it sound like a group that could be easily ignored, but that's also what has facilitated them getting as influential as they are. The usual reason they get their way is people want to hear them whine less and giving them whatever minor shit can feel like an easy way of shutting them up or even help to look compassionate.

Most of their influence comes from being so annoying that people want to have them shut up.
 
Saying it's a vocal minority makes it sound like a group that could be easily ignored, but that's also what has facilitated them getting as influential as they are. The usual reason they get their way is people want to hear them whine less and giving them whatever minor shit can feel like an easy way of shutting them up or even help to look compassionate.

Most of their influence comes from being so annoying that people want to have them shut up.

Hard disagree there. If that's the case, the AFA would have been successful. It fucking wasn't, and was a laughingstock.

Their success comes from the fact that they know how to be really, really, loud at the same time and work outrage into a self-feeding weapon. The usual suspects get pissed, then the activist speds, then the e-journalists and their army of useless tagalongs. Thus what begins with e-bitching proceeds to Social Media sperging (usually on Twitter), and then out come the hitpieces. The salvo is withering and while the tards doing it are neither a market nor a majority of any industry, they are fully capable of overwhelming a Social Media presence and bringing a hatemob to their online doorstep.

The problem, of course, is that the Social Media companies are entirely complicit with this shit.

This kind of aggressive hatemobbing is against their own harassment policies as written, but as any Kiwis knows, if it wasn't for double-standards, these fuckers wouldn't have standards at all. They'll never, ever, in a thousand years crack down on this shit from their own side, and in fact will actively throttle the offender's actual defenders without them being any the wiser. The spergs that run these outrage mobs know they can get away with anything up to death threats, but if you say so much as a mean word about their pronouns, they'll have your ass permabanned.

The correct response to a SocJus outrage mob is one of two responses:

1. To treat it like a raid from /b/ and just wait it the fuck out. The news cycle will eventually make them move onto whining about something else.

2. To go full shitlord and mock them openly. This will bring out the hitpieces but if you're actually releasing a product, you can flat-out work that shit into your marketing materials.
 
So, when will the trend hit video games?

Not the erotic, censored graphic novels; but the big tiddy weeb bait you see in FE?
Its already been happening with Sony. They've implemented a few censorship policies that remove big titty content from the PS4 versions of games, while the PC version and (ironically enough) the switch version are left untouched.
 
Its already been happening with Sony. They've implemented a few censorship policies that remove big titty content from the PS4 versions of games, while the PC version and (ironically enough) the switch version are left untouched.
Not the first time a game gets censored on the Sony system and uncensored on Nintendo's. BMX XXX's Gamecube and Xbox versions were uncensored. Sony of America wouldn't let the game on their system uncensored.

The entire Wikipedia page for the game is hilarious, by the way.
 
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