Culture Patreon’s Ban on “Anime” Art - War on Anime Intensifies

Patreon Is Being Asked to Ban Child Rape Animators — 37,000+ Have Signed the Petition

Anime content is being banned on Patreon now too, allegedly..

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Patreon's coming for everyone now.

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Where should Patreon draw the line?
Patreon is a great platform for creators, especially those with strong, loyal fanbases that want to directly support artists. Musician Jack Conte and developer Sam Yam are the founders of Patreon, and the concept was created because creators were getting stiffed by low-paying platforms like YouTube.

But they’re also getting censored, de-monetized, or de-emphasized if they don’t comply with the rules of YouTube, Facebook, or any other platform. Now, Patreon is being asked to issue its own set of policies around certain kinds of content.

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Patreon’s creators are extremely varied. YouTube videographers, writers, webcomic artists, podcasters, musicians, and many other creative types connect with targeted audiences through Patreon. And the system is simple: the creators can receive funding directly from their fans, or patrons. They can be paid on a recurring basis or per work of art.

The result? Many artists and creators feel that they are able better express themselves and get paid while doing so. In fact, more than a million active users and 50,000 monthly active creators make Patreon a seriously popular solution for artists. At present, Patreon estimates a staggering $150,000,000 is earned by artists on their platform annually.

Sounds great, except some fringe artists are attracting a lot of negative attention. Journalist Vonny Leclerc first discovered something disturbing: a ‘no pornography’ policy by the company wasn’t being enforced. That started the ball rolling.


+ Sorry, You Can’t Fund Your Fetish Porn Site on Patreon Anymore

Patreon has already clamped down on fetish porn site creators, though shocked onlookers are noticing something far more extreme.

Horrific acts of child rape depicted in animation.
Many of these artists are defending their right to create animations depicting child rape, torture, and other activities. Of course, actually doing these acts is completely illegal, but what about drawing it?

Also Read: Apple Agrees to $500 Million Payout for Old iPhone Throttling Scheme
These artists also say they’re creating works for patrons that are demanding it. And it turns out that patrons have been requesting all sorts of pervasive acts from creators. These now include horrific acts of child rape, personalized abuse fantasies, and acts of violence.

Lecler says it’s gone too far. “There are more and more violent, hyper-realistic animations being uploaded all the time,” he shared. “I wondered who had the time, now I can see people are making a living out of creating animated rape and snuff films.”

Lecler says Patreon is not only ignoring these activities, they are encouraging them.

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More than 37,000 thousand people have signed the petition demanding that Patreon stop people from selling child abuse animations through their platform.
The petition has been gaining steam, with more than 10,000 signatures arriving in the past 24 hours. Care2Petitions is hosting this particular protest.

According to the petition, this actually goes way beyond child rape illustrations. It also includes artwork of brutal killings, eye-gouging, other forms of rape… the list goes on. Lecler says one prominent artist is earning over $20,000 a month depicting extreme violence.

Here’s a quick excerpt of the petition page:

This is so many levels of disturbing: that these men can make it without caring, and that others buy it. Patreon is helping facilitate the creation of personalised abuse fantasies. One person [I found] is making $20,000 plus a month making adult games. Many making serious bucks.

What does it tell us about society, about sex and capitalism, that the most lucrative animation careers can come from made-to-order pornography? If you want to understand the things men wish they could do to us, look at the porn they create when they don’t have to use real women.

Patreon is being used to fund realistic animations of rape, eye-gouging, torture. Home-invasion when young women are shot in the face and then raped. @Patreon know about this. What’s being done? I can find hundreds of accounts making this kind of content.”


So where should Patreon draw the line?
Technically, this artwork isn’t illegal — at least in the United States. A picture depicting extreme violence may be extremely distasteful, but an artist has the right to create it. Once that crosses into depicted child pornography, however, a judge may have to decide.

Also Read: Federal Judge Allows Global Music Rights, Major Radio Stations to Air Their Antitrust Grievances
Another legal counter-argument relates to the actual harm done. If patrons and artists exist in an insular environment, one free of actual crime, it’s possible this group is merely acting out gruesome fantasies without dragging people into them. Some of the artwork in question violates Patreon’s pornography policy, though not all of it does.

+ Less Than 2% of Content Creators on Patreon Earn Monthly Minimum Wage

If that artwork is connected to actual crimes — or worse, if it’s depicting real events — then there’s a much different level of enforcement that’s needed.

Now, Patreon is undoubtedly going to be forced to respond — and make tough decisions that balance the broader interests of the community.

More as this develops.

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This might be of interest to people in this thread:
A right-wing comedian got a lot of his fans (like 70 or something) to file a class-action lawsuit against patreon over his banning. The thread is here
At this post there is an article that goes over how this may end up in his favor. I don't think the lawsuit has anything to do with how much control patreon is exerting over its users, although that could be its own lawsuit.
 
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3 new articles for the fire :sadwaifu:

Goblin Slayer, No Game No Life, Sword Art Online, Et Al Banned From Kinokuniya Bookstore

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Goblin Slayer, No Game No Life, Sword Art Online, Et Al Banned From Kinokuniya Bookstore

We tried to warn you. It started with the censorship of big anime boobs in video games, escalated to light novels, and now it’s evolved to mangas. More specifically, seven manga series have been banned from Kinokuniya Sydney’s physical retail outlets and their online shops following a complaint from South Australian legislator Connie Bonaros, who claimed that the mangas contained “child grooming” and “child pornography”.
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According to Adelaide Now, an Australian outlet, they didn’t go into detail about which manga series were banned, but noted that since entire series were banned the books removed from Kinokuniya totaled hundreds.

MP Bonaros complained that the manga’s contained “sexually explicit” material of young girls and that some of the stories contained topics and “connotations” of “incest” and “rape involving minors”.

Adelaide Now explained…

“In a letter to Ms Bonaros, Kinokuniya vice-president Keijro Mori wrote that her complaint led the company to re-examine the titles it carried in Australia. ‘Staff have been provided with updated special-order guidelines to ensure that these titles are no longer available to order into the store,” Mr Mori wrote.’ […]

“[…] The company said it would seek to comply with rules in other countries where it operates and ‘respect local law and culture, and make ordering decisions respectively and accordingly’.”

In a tweet published on July 19th, 2020, MP Connie Bonaros thanked Kinokuniya for banning the manga series.


While Adelaide Now avoided mentioning the mangas that were banned, Anime News Network did list the seven manga series that had been permanently removed from Kinokuniya:

Eromanga Sensei
Sword Art Online
Goblin Slayer
No Game, No Life
Inside Mari
Parallel Paradise
Dragonar Academy
This comes after Amazon has also started banning light novels and manga from their online shops. They’ve yet to explicitly explain why the books are being banned, but don’t be surprised if the censorship extends to anime OVAs soon.

This also isn’t the first time that Eromanga Sensei has been on the receiving end of the banhammer. Australian Senators had previously requested for the manga and others to be banned back in February of 2020. The requests to have the mangas banned continued on through March, where Eromanga Sensei was eventually banned from some Australian shops. Now, the bans have escalated to other series, as listed above.

Again, we tried to warn you all that this would eventually escalate to this point, but people wouldn’t listen.

We’re seeing the exact same thing happening with Sony’s censorship policies, along with Valve’sinconsistent yet increasingly draconian censorship on Steam, with more and more games getting banned or forced to censor any sort of titillating or ecchi content aimed at straight males.

It doesn’t end here; but it’s too late to stop it.

Expect more shops to start enacting bans and censorship on anime and manga content in the near future, and don’t be surprised if older anime and manga get pulled from distribution as well.

(Thanks for the news tip MoonmanLGBT and Ebicentre)

Fakku Lists Books That Have Been Banned From Amazon
Fakku Lists Books That Have Been Banned From Amazon

Various manga and light novel series have recently been pulled from Amazon in certain regions. No proper reason has been given, but more books have been banned from Amazon and Fakku listed all of the titles that were removed from the online mega-store.


On July 18th, 2020 Fakku posted a lengthy thread of all the hentai and adult erotica banned from Amazon.

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As is usual when censorship news crops up, Centrists™ were quick to justify the bans, claiming that it’s understandable for Amazon to ban hentai or smut.

However, what these same Centrists™ failed to understand is that Amazon sells adult toys, videos, hentai, and smut.

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The typical response from most Centrists™ is to move the goal post, likely claiming “Since Amazon sells porn then it’s not a problem. Just buy it from somewhere else!”.

This completely sidesteps the issue that’s currently plaguing all of media at the moment: increasing amounts of censorship.

While Amazon may still sell porn, hentai, and sex toys , they’re slowly starting to target select titles, removing them from their digital store shelves.

This will turn into escalation, just like how Valve still allows R18+ titles on Steam but have been increasingly banning more and more titles while tightening the noose around the creative freedoms developers are allowed to explore.

Clownfish TV did a video talking about that very topic, as the Japanese believe that this will at the very least create a chilling effect on creativity, if not lead to outright mass censorship.


Now that Amazon has been targeting light novels and mangas, expect more bans to come down the pipeline, especially as other bookstores jump in on the censorship.

History tells us that once the censorship starts it rarely ever stops until there’s a toppling of the regime.

(Thanks for the news tip ClownfishTV)
Why is Patreon policing off-site NSFW content?
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Why is Patreon policing off-site NSFW content?& patreon-gay-hypnosis-artists
Adult artists are fleeing.
Jul 21, 2020, 12:15 pm* IRL Ana Valens Ana Valens
Whether by choice or force, Patreon’s NSFW creators are increasingly ditching the site over its 18+ rules. The latest casualties include a gay hypnosis erotica site and an adult anime artist who claims Patreon tried to “exercise a scary amount of financial and public control.”

On July 15, Gay Spiral Stories owner Martin announced that the site would no longer be available for funding on Patreon. The move came after Patreon approached Martin and told him that he violated the site’s rules on “no non-consensual sexual scenarios and no minors in sexual situations,” he told the Daily Dot.

When asked to clarify, Patreon simply told him to “remove anything which would violate their regulations.” The only example Martin could think of was a story that was rewritten with a 16-year-old character aged up to 18. When Patreon revealed “this was not what they were seeing as problematic, and that [he] still would have to remove all non-consensual content,” Martin realized Patreon wanted him to remove all mind control-based erotica material, he told the Daily Dot.

“I told them that if they’d classify fictional, fantastical stories around mind control as ‘non-consensual,’ the whole content of the site would violate their policies, which was simply affirmed,” Martin told the Daily Dot. “So I had no choice but to shut down the presentation on Patreon and remove all links to Patreon from my site.”

Gay Spiral Stories’ Patreon did not share any erotica stories on the crowdfunding platform, nor did Martin have any issues with Patreon in the previous two years, he told the Daily Dot. An archived version of Gay Spiral Stories’ Patreon confirms his account was created to help cover the site’s hosting costs. In other words, Patreon was attempting to control what content Gay Spiral Stories could host off-site, regardless of Gay Spiral Stories’ Patreon presence.

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According to Patreon’s terms of service, the site now monitors creators’ work off-site for “abusive content.” Patreon quietly implemented the rule around April 2019, according to one artist’s tweet, although enforcement has increased over the past year, particularly against anime artists. In March, Patreon’s Trust & Safety team forced one adult anime artist to provide a Google Drive copy of their portfolio to inspect their work.

“If you are a creator raising funds on Patreon, we may be held accountable for what you do with those funds,” the site’s terms of service states. “As a result, we also look at what you do with your membership off our platform.”

It appears that Patreon is increasingly forcing adult artists to surrender their portfolios to the site’s control. In June, adult anime artist Slugbox wrote a patron-only post announcing he would no longer offer explicit material on Patreon, according to one of three leaked patron-only posts shared on Gamergate subreddit r/KotakuInAction. In the post, Slugbox says Patreon changed its content rules so “titties [are] good and staying,” but “penetration [can] no longer” be posted on his page. Slugbox confirmed the leaks’ validity and told the Daily Dot that he made this decision because of Patreon’s mixed messaging.

“Theoretically, illustrated penetration and explicit adult activity are ‘allowed’ on the platform. I made a choice to stop posting it there anyway though, as these policies were not being unilaterally enforced across users,” he said. “One Patreon employee could say it’s ‘too far’ and another could have no problem. That’s a very ambiguous doctrine to work under. I would rather be safe than sorry.”

Shortly after, Slugbox decided to leave Patreon for good, according to a second leak. Under the site’s contemporary terms of service, he wrote, “‘Slugbox’ becomes a ‘project’ that belongs to Patreon,” which in turn means Patreon can “dictate where Slugbox can operate, where Slugbox can make money, and how [Slugbox can] make money, and then hold my success here as a hostage.” This caused stress and left him feeling watched by the company, he said.

In 2019, Patreon dug up Slugbox’s Hentai Foundry account from five years prior and flagged an illustration of his anthropomorphic original character, Cteno, as “inappropriate” for her lack of breasts. To appease Patreon, he would have to stop drawing Cteno “anywhere” and “delete [his] entire backlog of work all over the internet,” he wrote in a third leaked post.

“She’s an adult as much as any fictional slime insect bug monster can be, or as much as anyone perceives an illustration,” Slugbox told the Daily Dot. “I think Patreon doesn’t know what Cteno is, or how old it/she is. And I’m not interested in changing her design to gigantic titties or having her constantly show off an in-universe date of birth.”

Still, Slugbox told the Daily Dot he couldn’t pinpoint what material needed to be purged to appease Patreon: an illustration of the Digimon Renamon “with giant titties going down a floating dong” or an illustration of Cteno. In fact, the real issue may have nothing to do with adult content. He said the “vast majority” of Patreon’s issues with his work involved “images or platforms that advertised other services, even long-dead ones from nearly a decade ago.” Forced to guess, Slugbox erred on the side of censoring and removing more content over less.

He said that Patreon exerts demands for “all-encompassing” adherence to Patreon’s demands while exerting “a lack of consistency on top.”

“Because Patreon rarely provides specific examples of exactly WHAT was the offending issue off-site, it’s up to us to either purge our external platforms (bolstering Patreon’s prominence through the elimination of others) or do it one image at a time until whatever employee we are working with feels satisfied,” Slugbox said. “I get the feeling that [Patreon wants] to clear out a variety of creators at a certain income or influence level, but again, this isn’t something anyone can PROVE.”

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Slugbox’s original character Cteno. Patreon deemed her “inappropriate” because “because she doesn’t have any breasts.”
Slugbox has since left Patreon for SubscribeStar. Other adult illustrators, including popular artists Krekkov, Polyle1, and Drawsputin, have followed and pulled out of Patreon preemptively.

“They ban more adult content every day, and now they threaten and monitor artists to remove all art they deem ‘problematic’ from all sites,” Drawsputin tweeted on Friday. “The money isn’t worth the censorship. I am leaving Patreon soon.”

Patreon increased pressure against adult artists last summer, starting with hypnosis content and forced transformation material before moving on to furry porn. Some creators suspect banks and credit card companies may be to blame, while others think Patreon is specifically targeting adult creators for its own gain.

“I do get the impression that [Patreon wants] to exercise a scary level of control over fiction, as well as set their authority over it in stone, much like many entities,” Slugbox told the Daily Dot. “They’d like to set a singular and predictable standard for adult content that cannot be questioned. Because who wouldn’t want to control everything?”

The Daily Dot reached out to Patreon for comment.
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Wow. Patreon leadership is actually pants-on-head stupid... no. I'm gonna go farther. I'm convinced he is wearing a leash anywhere he goes because he's so fucking dumb, they're afraid he'll wander away like a dumb kid if they look away and spend all their cash too.
Thankfully, creators are putting the nails in patreons coffin. The recent laws in california are unavoidable for patreon, unless they flat out ban all IPs from california, move, and state openly that no one from california is allowed to do business with them.
Why? Arbitration. Patreon has to pay in advance for each claim and california's own law accounts for the inevitable rules change to prevent it, flat out stating that its null and void.
Patreon is fucked. Even if they were to follow my advice tomorrow, the damage would already thanks to one man and 100 supporters of his.
To think, all this because Patreon had to ride a moral high horse.... I miss the days when companies were greedy shits. At least then, if you made them money, they'd leave you alone.

Note: I also wonder if their inconsistency is even legal. If I remember correctly, unclear contracts often get thrown out of court, which may be exposing Patreon legally.
Further, what upsets me is the doublespeak, hypocrisy, and banning of a whole countries artstyle. I really hope creators start calling it out for what it is: imperialism. At least if I understand correctly. They consider the 'Anime' genre to be underage artwork.... which I'm sure with a second of googling, I could find thousands of images to disprove.
Another note: also.... couldn't them trying to exert editorial control over creators supposedly 'underage' artwork be considered by federal courts as an admission that they are an accessory to distribution?
 
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I can't imagine using patreon for any reason after this revelation, though. But I think a lot of people will stick around, thinking that these rules are for getting rid of wrong think and not giving a corporation complete control over their livelihood.
That guy who draws clowngirls comes to mind, At first replyingn to the sidalpha tweet from months ago "lol this is just to get rid of nazis/alt righters", then after seeing the crap with slugbox (one of the least controversial artists, seriously, his stuff is tame as hell) he backpedaled and mentioned he made a subscribestar, because "I don't think I will get in trouble but just in case!".
They will delude themselves into thinking these rules won't apply to them, until they get contacted by a patreon rep about their problematic art.
"Uhm dear user, don't you know clowns are an alt right symbol? Please remove all depictions of clowns right now"
Then they will be "heartbroken" and lament how patreon is going after well meaning degenerates and not the artists they hate.
 
That guy who draws clowngirls comes to mind, At first replyingn to the sidalpha tweet from months ago "lol this is just to get rid of nazis/alt righters", then after seeing the crap with slugbox (one of the least controversial artists, seriously, his stuff is tame as hell) he backpedaled and mentioned he made a subscribestar, because "I don't think I will get in trouble but just in case!".
They will delude themselves into thinking these rules won't apply to them, until they get contacted by a patreon rep about their problematic art.
"Uhm dear user, don't you know clowns are an alt right symbol? Please remove all depictions of clowns right now"
Then they will be "heartbroken" and lament how patreon is going after well meaning degenerates and not the artists they hate.
Stuff like this has been par for the course for most social media or similar platforms. However, usually the first wave of bans tend to be against people so openly far-right that most people won't think twice about it. Those banned accounts then flood alternative platforms, thus making those alternative platforms de facto far-right platforms and distasteful to the public. So in the end, the main platform (twitter, reddit, etc) ends up being the only viable platform to the public.
Patreon looks like it will be different where most of the people leaving / getting banned are just artists and patreon is actively looking for reasons to crack down on them. If alternative platforms haven't been rendered nonviable by deplorables, patreon won't be able to maintain a monopoly.
 
DigitalHToy, NSFW Artist Banned From Patreon And PayPal
July 23, 2020 Billy

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DigitalHToy, NSFW Artist Banned From Patreon And PayPal
We’ve been regularly reporting that Patreon has been banning artists, taking control of artists’ copyrighted material, and stalking the artists’ off-site content to enforce their rules, but a new plot-twist has emerged where now NSFW artists are being banned from both Patreon and PayPal.
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The 18+ artist, DigitalHToy, is the most recent victim of the purge, having lost both their Patreon account and their PayPal account that they were using for commissions and to pay for schooling. They made a post about it on July 22nd, 2020.


If you’re unable to view the image in the tweet, the notice from PayPal states that they’re unable to use their services anymore.

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Many of DigitalHToy’s followers and patrons suggested they take their business elsewhere.
So a couple of hours later they decided to update their fans on their decision to look into using SubscribeStar and potentially attempt to get their Patreon account reinstated.


Unfortunately DigitalHToy didn’t exactly detail which commissions caught the attention of PayPal, and what kind of art landed them in Patreon jail. Did they actually violate the rules or was it one of those situations where someone from the Trust & Safety commission decided that one of the characters looked “underage” and enacted the ban? Patreon didn’t say and neither did DigitalHToy.
Nevertheless, expect more artists to get jettisoned from PayPal and Patreon as they clamp down on content and creators that somehow violate their ever-changing policies.
(Thanks for the news tip Master Nemesis)
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Since beastiality is not allowed, I wonder if all the furry artists are going to get purged. (oh wait of course they won't)
Stuff like this is why people should've looked into crypto as something more than just a get rich quick scheme.
 
Kinda tldr for me but are people defending the rights of degenerates to draw child rap3?
NSFWA who draw adults work more than underage 18 got both paterion & paypal revoked.
with only saving grace for paypal is they said he breached the TOS by lieing about his age some or another in past underage 18 when he made his paypal.
which considered minor for means to make money people feel its far to covient excuse to boot him from paypal not because nsfwa.

*sigh* It's all around about. There a original Karen in japan ( women Rights activist working to get rid of anime)


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which based of this article & with joke male rage(privalage):
Anime and manga depicting sexual images of children spark calls for review of classification laws
Anime and manga depicting sexual images of children spark calls for review of classification laws
By Leah MacLennan
Posted FriFriday 28 FebFebruary 2020 at 3:51pm
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A scene from the anime film Eromanga Sensai about teenage siblings creating pornographic comics together.(Supplied)
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Two South Australian crossbench politicians are calling for an urgent review of classification laws, after discovering videos and comic books sold in Australia that depict sexual images of children, including rape scenes.

Key points:
Comic books and videos involving child exploitation are available in Australian shops
Two MPs want classification laws changed to ban them
A store owner says he chooses not to sell products he decides are not suitable
SA Best Upper House MP Connie Bonaros has been investigating Japanese anime and manga publications and found many for sale that she believed should not have got past the Classification Board.

"They are effectively regulating this material like they would a video game or like they would a film, but they are doing so in isolation of our criminal law," Ms Bonaros said.

"Our federal criminal code clearly says that this material would meet the definition of child exploitation material and therefore should not be available at all."

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Connie Bonaros meets with Kazuko Ito, the secretary-general of the Japanese human rights group Human Rights Now.(Supplied: SA Best)
Ms Bonaros has found titles with themes of incest, rape and sexual abuse — all involving children.

That includes animation Eromanga Sensai where a 15-year-old boy and his 12-year-old sister create pornographic comics together, or comic book No Game No Life where an 18-year-old boy and his 11-year-old sister enter an online gaming world.

She said these publications were available in bookshops and DVD stores around Australia.

"You have Astro Boy and Pokemon and in amongst all that material there are titles which clearly contain material that meets the definition of child exploitation material," Ms Bonaros said.

"Themes of minors involved in incest and rape, sexual abuse — the choice was absolutely endless."

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Manga comic books MP Connie Bonaros has bought in Australia.(ABC News)
Senator joins call for classification review
Ms Bonaros's federal colleague, Centre Alliance senator Stirling Griff, has joined her campaign, launching a motion in Parliament calling for an urgent review of classification regulations.

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Senator Stirling Griff speaks about the issue in the Senate.(ABC News)
"Experts that advocate against child exploitation have referred to this type of anime and manga as a gateway to the abuse of actual children," Senator Griff said.

"Experts also say that explicit anime and manga can be used by paedophiles as tools to groom children.

"It makes me sick to the stomach to even speak about this."

There have been cases in Australia where people have been prosecuted for possessing child exploitation material, even though the images are drawings rather than actual photographs.

In 2015, an Adelaide man was given a suspended sentence for having more than 300 anime images that were classed as child pornography.

But the Classification Board granted Eromanga Sensai an MA15+ rating, saying: "The film contains strong themes that are justified by context."

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Ms Bonaros meets with representatives of Lighthouse: Center for Human Trafficking Victims in Tokyo.(Supplied: SA Best)
Distributors choose whether material is classified
While all videos pass through the Classification Board, it only looks at comic books if they are submitted, and it is up to the book's distributors to decide if it needs to be classified.

Ms Bonaros and Senator Griff want this changed and are calling for an ongoing review of classification regulations to extend the board's oversight to printed materials.

"The board is aware that a campaign has been launched about the sale of Japanese manga and anime in Australia and that in the context of the Government's review of classification regulation this issue has been raised," the Classification Board said in a statement.

"The board welcomes this review."

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Adelaide comic book store Shin Tokyo owner William Chappell carefully chooses what he sells.(ABC News)
Fans of anime and manga have defended the industry, pointing out the majority of publications are not pornographic.

The owner of Adelaide store Shin Tokyo, William Chappell, said the artform had a 60-year history, and like other parts of the entertainment industry, content could range from child-friendly through to pornographic.

He said while the Classification Board was experienced in dealing with the material, he was still careful about what he sold in his shop.

"We're a family-friendly store so we're really careful ordering products," he said.

"We look at how female characters are portrayed and there are quite a lot of products that we decide aren't suitable."

"That's where we are just extremely careful and we just say 'hey, if it looks bad, we're just not going to stock it'."

Japan trip opened eyes to problem
Ms Bonaros took up the campaign of child exploitation material in anime and manga after travelling to Japan to push for child-like sex dolls to be banned.

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"The trip to Japan was a bit of an eye-opener in many regards," she said.

"Obviously, when I went there I wasn't aware of the extent of the problem of manga."

Ms Bonaros said laws in Japan did not consider drawings to be child exploitation material, but there were groups there campaigning for it to be banned.

She said she wanted to help Japanese activists who believed pressure from other countries would help their cause.

"They need external pressure — they need their politicians to understand that the rest of the world doesn't look at this material through the same lens that they do," Ms Bonaros said.

"There is a lot of pressure being applied at the moment in Japan, but it is being done very discreetly, so what they've told me is the more help they can get from external countries, the more hope they have of making some inroads in terms of ensuring that their child exploitation laws are stronger."

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So, Patreon's going full ResetEra because the Woke Left hates anime but it looks more and more like a lot of the Amazon stuff is a couple of rogue Karens doing their own thing and is largely an entirely separate thing from Patreon's zealotry.

I see a lot of this stuff seems to be mentioning the Australian market so I can probably rule out Hollywood or Silicon Valley trying to preemptively destroy competition for now, but I won't be surprised if they also hop on the bandwagon, especially Disney since they control Marvel (and the MCU has been their main gravy train for years) and are the most woke of the entire lot.
 
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which based of this article & with joke male rage(privalage):
Anime and manga depicting sexual images of children spark calls for review of classification laws
Anime and manga depicting sexual images of children spark calls for review of classification laws
By Leah MacLennan
Posted FriFriday 28 FebFebruary 2020 at 3:51pm
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A scene from the anime film Eromanga Sensai about teenage siblings creating pornographic comics together.(Supplied)
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Two South Australian crossbench politicians are calling for an urgent review of classification laws, after discovering videos and comic books sold in Australia that depict sexual images of children, including rape scenes.

Key points:
Comic books and videos involving child exploitation are available in Australian shops
Two MPs want classification laws changed to ban them
A store owner says he chooses not to sell products he decides are not suitable
SA Best Upper House MP Connie Bonaros has been investigating Japanese anime and manga publications and found many for sale that she believed should not have got past the Classification Board.

"They are effectively regulating this material like they would a video game or like they would a film, but they are doing so in isolation of our criminal law," Ms Bonaros said.

"Our federal criminal code clearly says that this material would meet the definition of child exploitation material and therefore should not be available at all."

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Connie Bonaros meets with Kazuko Ito, the secretary-general of the Japanese human rights group Human Rights Now.(Supplied: SA Best)
Ms Bonaros has found titles with themes of incest, rape and sexual abuse — all involving children.

That includes animation Eromanga Sensai where a 15-year-old boy and his 12-year-old sister create pornographic comics together, or comic book No Game No Life where an 18-year-old boy and his 11-year-old sister enter an online gaming world.

She said these publications were available in bookshops and DVD stores around Australia.

"You have Astro Boy and Pokemon and in amongst all that material there are titles which clearly contain material that meets the definition of child exploitation material," Ms Bonaros said.

"Themes of minors involved in incest and rape, sexual abuse — the choice was absolutely endless."

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Manga comic books MP Connie Bonaros has bought in Australia.(ABC News)
Senator joins call for classification review
Ms Bonaros's federal colleague, Centre Alliance senator Stirling Griff, has joined her campaign, launching a motion in Parliament calling for an urgent review of classification regulations.

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Senator Stirling Griff speaks about the issue in the Senate.(ABC News)
"Experts that advocate against child exploitation have referred to this type of anime and manga as a gateway to the abuse of actual children," Senator Griff said.

"Experts also say that explicit anime and manga can be used by paedophiles as tools to groom children.

"It makes me sick to the stomach to even speak about this."

There have been cases in Australia where people have been prosecuted for possessing child exploitation material, even though the images are drawings rather than actual photographs.

In 2015, an Adelaide man was given a suspended sentence for having more than 300 anime images that were classed as child pornography.

But the Classification Board granted Eromanga Sensai an MA15+ rating, saying: "The film contains strong themes that are justified by context."

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Ms Bonaros meets with representatives of Lighthouse: Center for Human Trafficking Victims in Tokyo.(Supplied: SA Best)
Distributors choose whether material is classified
While all videos pass through the Classification Board, it only looks at comic books if they are submitted, and it is up to the book's distributors to decide if it needs to be classified.

Ms Bonaros and Senator Griff want this changed and are calling for an ongoing review of classification regulations to extend the board's oversight to printed materials.

"The board is aware that a campaign has been launched about the sale of Japanese manga and anime in Australia and that in the context of the Government's review of classification regulation this issue has been raised," the Classification Board said in a statement.

"The board welcomes this review."

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Adelaide comic book store Shin Tokyo owner William Chappell carefully chooses what he sells.(ABC News)
Fans of anime and manga have defended the industry, pointing out the majority of publications are not pornographic.

The owner of Adelaide store Shin Tokyo, William Chappell, said the artform had a 60-year history, and like other parts of the entertainment industry, content could range from child-friendly through to pornographic.

He said while the Classification Board was experienced in dealing with the material, he was still careful about what he sold in his shop.

"We're a family-friendly store so we're really careful ordering products," he said.

"We look at how female characters are portrayed and there are quite a lot of products that we decide aren't suitable."

"That's where we are just extremely careful and we just say 'hey, if it looks bad, we're just not going to stock it'."

Japan trip opened eyes to problem
Ms Bonaros took up the campaign of child exploitation material in anime and manga after travelling to Japan to push for child-like sex dolls to be banned.

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"The trip to Japan was a bit of an eye-opener in many regards," she said.

"Obviously, when I went there I wasn't aware of the extent of the problem of manga."

Ms Bonaros said laws in Japan did not consider drawings to be child exploitation material, but there were groups there campaigning for it to be banned.

She said she wanted to help Japanese activists who believed pressure from other countries would help their cause.

"They need external pressure — they need their politicians to understand that the rest of the world doesn't look at this material through the same lens that they do," Ms Bonaros said.

"There is a lot of pressure being applied at the moment in Japan, but it is being done very discreetly, so what they've told me is the more help they can get from external countries, the more hope they have of making some inroads in terms of ensuring that their child exploitation laws are stronger."

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I fucking hate these people. Its the same 'FOR THE CHILDREN' people in the 1990s. No Game No Life? One of the most popular series along with SAO? Are you fucking high?

Australia has always been a country of ban happy faggots. I mean, these were the people who were trying to ban petite and A-Cup porn stars because they thought it promoted child pornography. That's how fucked in the head these people are.

I don't believe for a SECOND they're doing it for anyone but themselves to feel important. "The trip to Japan really opened my eyes are the problem." Listen you dumb cunt, child exploitation and sexual abuse are extremely low in Japan. Its also a completely different culture you stupid white bitch.

And you're concentrating on DRAWINGS while South-East Asian gangs are running actual child trafficking rings and selling the videos for bitcoin and then disposing of the kids. Oh, but you don't do that because you'd have to leave the nice and safe Tokyo and go to some Cambodian slum and live in some shanty and eat shitty food. But in return for that sacrifice you'd actually do good. Here, you're just another busy-body Western cunt.

Drawings and dolls, I can't be bothered to care when there's actual exploitation going on, worse than its ever fucking been. Pedophiles are going to seek out child porn. There's no such thing as a gateway drug. The fucking most hilarious part is that none of them are pornographic and some of them don't even have sexual content. Its just sexually suggestive covers and fan service. Doing this is so pointless because perverts aren't looking at mainstream stuff and you will never even make a dent. Its such an utter waste of fucking time, money and resources you'd have to be a narcissist to do it or just an ignorant retard looking for a problem to get activist dollars. These people must be miserable to be around.

Japan told the UN to go fuck itself when it tried to regulate (So did the US). I hope they keep doing it. Oh, and women draw hentai as well. (Even though what was banned wasn't Hentai. It was Ecchi, at best and not even that). So go fuck yourself. I'm ready for MATI, because

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LOL, she thinks the audience for that kind of thing is just men.:smug:

That's why these people are trash. They don't know jack shit about what they're trying to police. They just see it and go: "I want it banned!"
 
TLDR orTLDW: karen complains manager . Manager agrees to takeproduct. Normy & pubkic ask why? Manager says it's kangaro politcs with hint bureaucracy( cost fee have AUS Goverment to look at anime & do their job classify) ( 3rd optiion :story: not do job and pound sand weebs in AUS)(:stress: so in short a ban on anime by making illegal for the comic stores to sell ? is can you import comics which i think it's expensive ( On most products imported into Australia, customs duty is 5% of the value of the goods converted to Australian dollars, but this is dependent on the type of goods.) and probably best AUS Pirate anime & manga stay under the law & imprort or go to japan or us buy manga & anime to take home.

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Scratch that though i was done for today Billy dropped a news article for full delet by amazon: webs Risez up & Eat the Karens or lose your hobby :story: Good Escalation.

No Game No Life, Clockwork Planet, Eromanga Sensei Banned From Book Depository

Amazon subsidiary, Book Depository, has banned a number of light novels and mangas from their repository after their parent company axed the books from stock as well. This includes the light novels No Game, No Life, Clockwork Planet and Oreimo!, along with the manga series Eromanga Sensei.



If you visit the Book Depository website, you’ll note that every volume for No Game, No Life has been removed save for one: Volume 6.


Some Centrists™ will likely try to use the excuse “They probably never had the other volumes in stock!” but if you check the Google cache, you’ll find that they actually had volumes 1 – 6 in their catalog.

If you attempt to click on any of the search links on Google, they’ll take you to a page saying that the product is no longer available on Book Depository.



The same thing applies to other light novels as well, including Clockwork Planet, where according to an archive of Book Depository, all ten volumes have been removed from the store.

According to another archive, four of the volumes for Tasukasa Fushimi’s Oreimo has also been removed from Book Depository.

Another archive of the store shows that the three volumes of Eromanga Sensei, published by Dark Horse Comics, have also been removed from Book Depository.

Many of these are the same series of works that were recently banned from Amazon.



The removal of the books from were spotted by those over on the light novels sub-reddit, who asked why various series were no longer available on BookDepository.com.

Someone responded noting that since Book Depository is a subsidiary of Amazon, it was the reason why the mangas and light novels for particular series have been banned. Those who pre-ordered upcoming light novels/mangas for certain series had their orders cancelled and the distribution for various series culled.

No new orders, no new books.

As mentioned by Tech Crunch, Amazon acquired the U.K., outfit, Book Depository, back in 2011.

Recently, Amazon has been responsible for banning various light novels and mangas, along with some other distributors, including Australian outfit Kinokuniya Books, the latter of whom also banned No Game, No Life, Inside Mari, Eromanga Sensei and popular manga series Goblin Slayer and Sword Art Online.

The censorship seems to be escalating on an international level, with more and more outlets banning certain manga series and light novels.

Expect Centrists™ to come up with one excuse or another as to why this isn’t censorship or how this isn’t a big deal, all while Social Justice Warriors continue to target more mangas and light novels for bans.

(Thanks for the news tip Ebicentre)
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Lol these stupid virgin faggots are crying that they got banned for breaking the rules that were applied retroactively after being changed yesterday without their notice or consent. Stupid neckbeard faggots should just obey the rules. Private companies.
 
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