Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

Oppenheimer gave him a taste of that Oscar goodness, and now that’s apparently all he’s focused on.

I guess all the acclaim and love he got from the audiences for his previous films wasn’t enough. He needs Oscars to be satisfied.
Well I think he’s also obsessed with ‘saving cinema’ or some shit which is why he didn’t delay Tenet’s release and why he’s still working with IMAX film which doesn’t even have the best picture quality anymore (yes you get higher resolution, but dynamic range and color reproduction is king, and digital now beats film in that department).
 
Oppenheimer gave him a taste of that Oscar goodness, and now that’s apparently all he’s focused on.

I guess all the acclaim and love he got from the audiences for his previous films wasn’t enough. He needs Oscars to be satisfied.
He choose the wrong story to achieve that, tbh.

The King's Speech: based on real events
The Artist: based on real events
Argo: based on real events
12 Years a Slave: based on real events
Birdman: satire
Spotlight: based on real events
Moonlight: based on real events-ish
The Shape of Water: fantasy
Green Book: based on real events
Parasite: social bs
Nomadland: social bs
CODA: social bs
Everything Everywhere All at Once: social bs
Oppenheimer: based on real events
Anora: Awhore
One Battle After Another: straightforward commie bs

Last time an epic story won was 2003, with LotR:Return of the King.
 
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We can shit on this all we want, but the normies are going to eat this slop up.
The Odyssey isn't capeshit that nerds are familiar with; it's core Western literature where the memes are proper idioms. Everything about it screams "The Dark Knight Rises" where it's a messy plot with mediocre actors cast way above their abilities. It's also compared to Troy and while Troy is the Greek version of The Patriot, it gets the general aesthetic right, while this movie just isn't even trying.
 
We can shit on this all we want, but the normies are going to eat this slop up.
I anticipate it will have a couple of pretty decent first couple of weeks, but things will dry up rather quickly after that. Oppenheimer was overrated, but it was a pretty faithful adaptation of "American Prometheus" and gave people a reason to go back and see it at least a couple of times.

Most fans of the Odyssey didn't go through school reading the feminist slop Nolan based this movie on. Doing blatantly spiteful casting like making Helen of Troy black and including Ellen Page as a Greek warrior is the kind of Current Year nonsense that kills box office draws these days.
 
We can shit on this all we want, but the normies are going to eat this slop up.
Are they? The much vaunted rabid Nolan fanbase are not normies. They are, in essence, Snyderbros with pretensions of grandeur. They are loud and they are dedicated and will pay to see what their "last great auteur" exhibits on the largest and most expensive screens available. But there aren't that many of them in the scheme of things. You might have expected Nolan to attract a mainstream normie following with his Batman trilogy but he didn't. Dunkirk showed that he didn't and that was despite the normie-bait stunt casting of Harry Styles with all of the mainstream PR built on the back of that. His great "success" Intersteller, which also set IMAX records at the time, took $681m (original run - re-releases take it to $774m). Good numbers but far from mass market normie blockbuster numbers. Tenet has the excuse of the Kung Flu (legitimately for once) and with Oppenheimer you can't separate any Nolan factor from the wider Barbenheimer factor which was clearly a unique circumstance.

So there's no basis for believing Nolan has accrued a mass normie audience that will pay to see a film because it's a Nolan film. If anything I'd argue that the major Nolan selling point of intelligent authenticity and technical excellence (leaving aside the extent to which that was deserved) established in his earlier career has been tarnished. Intersteller was glossy gibberish. Tenet emphasised a longstanding issue with Nolan films concerning sound quality (not what you'd expect from a technically excellent director) and also had severe plot coherence/integrity issues.

Remember when we were told by a gushing press about the record breaking immediate premium large format sell out of tickets a year in advance? That was 150k tickets and $3.4m. Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick but a drop in the ocean in terms of determining whether this film will succeed. Remember when about a month ago we were told by a gushing press about the record setting 24 hours presales at the BFI IMAX? That was 28k tickets and $1m. That's the effect of the loud dedicated Nolan fanbase and it's trivial in the wider scheme of things not that you'd know that from the reporting.

And the mass market of normies aren't quite the mindless cattle that they are viewed as. Nothing had more of an iron grip on the normies (and the PR machinery) than Marvell circa Endgame and all it took was a few bad films to turn the normie perception from must see to must avoid. No-one had more of a normie following than Steven Spielberg (Nolan does not come close) but his West Side Story, The Fablemans and, Disclosure Day all vanished like farts in a hurricane. The Odyssey controversies have escaped containment and entered the mainstream. Despite the "people are aware of it" / "people are talking about it" cope, when it's a general public controversy (as opposed to an industry controvery - Sound of Freedom / Citizen Vigilante), that almost never ends well.

There are only two things I'm confident about with Nolan's Odyssey. Firstly; the studio, industry and media will lie, mislead and deceive to prop it up and claim it's a success to a level never seen before. Secondly; it will take less money that it would have done without the controversies.
 
Another thing to consider is movies that would have been money in the bank just two or three years ago and have big opening weekends seem to be dropping off in the second weekend this year.

A few years ago Mandalorian and Grogo would have easily been at least $700 million at the world wide box office, its second week drop killed that.

The Super Mario Galaxy movie opened huge and based on the opening weekend numbers was expected to gross between $1.6 and $2 billion dollars and then just barely made it to $1 billion after the second weekend drop, and that was the universally loved and family friendly Mario franchise.

This movie only has a couple of weeks to make its money before it has to take on a Spider-Man movie, Spider-Man is the one superhero normies still care about despite being done with other superhero stuff.

With a $700 million break even point, I don't see this movie getting there with Spider-Man in the way.

For context the only Nolan movies that have grossed $700 million or above and are not Batman movies are Interstellar, Inception, and Oppenheimer, and that last one had a meme on its side and other movies moving their release dates to get out of its way, the exact opposite is happening with The Odyssey.
 
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