Network Printers are the legitimate Satan - Error: Printer not detected

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

I have a laser. I don't use it often - it can go months without me printing something. Then I need to print something and it works just fine. No gunged up ink, no silly-priced tiny wee cartridges with more DRM than Denuvo. I turn it on and it prints. Got it... five years ago? Six?

My current laser printer has been around almost 12 years and still prints reliably. The only thing is that the part that opens up to accept manual-feed paper has the extension part break off. I use that infrequently enough that it's not a big deal.

I also agree with @moocow 's comments about Brother Printers. Back in the day, I had a dot matrix that was an absolute workhorse that ran for years before abruptly dying. I definitely got my money's worth out of it. My current home office printer is a Brother multi-function that I'm happy with. The only issues I've had are:

• An aftermarket drum unit went bad on it despite reporting 30-some percent life remaining. A Brother brand drum only cost $5 more than the generic version so I figured cheaper wasn't better for drum units.
• The toner cartridges are much smaller than those on the Brother printer it replaced. Even the maximum yield cartridges tend to run out at a faster pace during my peak usage season. As long as the printer remains reliable for years to come, though, it's worth it.

When my HP color printer eventually dies, I will look for a similar Brother printer to replace it. HP has pissed me off with its ink practices and the fact my color printer is used so infrequently that more ink gets used on its periodic "maintenance cycles" than it does with printing. It's absolutely ridiculous that the majority of my last set of cartridges got depleted solely from these cycles that I printed hardly any pages (if any!) with them.

I also agree with USB printers having quirky issues. What I hate most is when a USB-connected printer of mine stops working only to learn that, for no apparent reason, the system installed a second copy of the printer on another "port" and made that the new default printer without any sort of notification. That's an absolute PITA, especially when the system just as randomly reverts back to the original port/setup.

 

[Besachf Jhakut]

Weird, your posting has no Reply or Quote buttons, so I'm faking this up:

When my HP color printer eventually dies, I will look for a similar Brother printer to replace it. HP has pissed me off with its ink practices and the fact my color printer is used so infrequently that more ink gets used on its periodic "maintenance cycles" than it does with printing. It's absolutely ridiculous that the majority of my last set of cartridges got depleted solely from these cycles that I printed hardly any pages (if any!) with them.

I think this is a general problem with ink jet printers to keep their print head actuators from getting stuck due to dry ink. For HP printers that use cartridges with build in print heads, for many people they might be safer than the Brother designs I'm familiar with, which do the same cleaning thing but have integral print heads.

Meaning with an expended by cleaning HP cartridge you can toss it as usual, whereas unless you use it a lot the Brother's heads might get stuck and as far as I know can't easily get replaced. One benefit to the Brother approach in addition to possibly having better print heads since they're not a consumable is that ink cartridges are exactly that, just containers of ink.

Note this might have changed, for it was years ago I convinced both my parents to move up from Brother ink jet printers to Brother laser printers, and my direct knowledge of HP printers ended when my mother and maybe my father threw theirs' away in disgust and started listening to me at least on which company to trust.

 

[Not Really Here]

This thread is spittin' fax.


I'll see myself out.

 

[Moths]

@Besachf Jhakut for some reason the reply button is broken on posts over a certain size for some fucking reason, won't know why or fixed until the ooperator returns I guess

@Kiwi Lime Pie Yes computers duplicating printers because of a minor fuckup or one of the machines becoming impatient and not responding in time is so fucking shit. One day I wonder why the original printer cant print only to find 5 more duplicated ports of the same goddamn machine. I believe it to be a fuckup of both windows and printers since both seem to be in a competition to make the most incompatible operating system talk with the most incompatiable software driver. As other anons have stated I think ill just set up a CUPS instance somewhere and see if that results in less fuckery

 

[Not Really Here]

for some reason the reply button is broken on posts over a certain size for some fucking reason

It may be a feature and not a bug, Jersh was bitching about people quoting textwalls, and entire OP's, wasting server space just to reply to a single point like herein.

 

[Drain Todger]

OKI mono laserjet master race, reporting in.

I feel so sorry for the plebs who will never know the joy of printing upwards of forty pages per minute with crisp, clean text, and doing double-sided and actually having it fucking work.

One thing companies need to also stop doing is using consumer grade printers in the office!

The fuckers are not meant to be used as business machines!

They aren't built for high volume, sustained abuse, or reliability. Yes, the business models cost more, because they are fucking designed to meet business needs without shitting the bed everyday. Stop being a fucking cheap kike and buy the appropriate printer for the job instead of trying to get your IT people to keep consumer shit working when it just isn't fucking reasonable to do so.

Hell, they need to stop using consumer grade IT/electronics in the office, full stop. There is business-grade shit for a reason.

Commercial-grade copiers start at $1500 and go up to well beyond that, like $7k or $10k or more; all the way up to the mid-five-digits. Anything new that’s below $1k is medium-duty, home office shit and doesn’t really belong in an office setting due to the limited duty cycle. Even then, just because a $600 printer has a duty cycle of 80,000, that doesn’t mean you can print 79,999 pages with it per month and expect it to be fine. It means that’s the average number of prints per month until failure, and it would much prefer to only have to print out a couple thousand pages at the most.

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Look at this beast:

Ricoh Pro C7200SL Color Production Laser Printer

The Ricoh Pro C7200SL prints up to 85 ppm and a print resolution of up to 2400 x 4800 dpi. It can print on media sizes up to 13" x 19" inches or A3 sizes.

www.abdofficesolutions.com

650k prints is the absolute max it can do per month right before breaking, on average. Realistically, it can safely print maybe 30k to 50k pages a month without accumulating excessive wear and tear.

 

[PFM]

I've had a Brother HL2280DW mono laser jet for quite awhile now and it works flawlessly. Toner is cheap, linux drivers work fine, the scanner functionality works perfectly. Couldn't recommend it enough

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

@Drain Todger "I feel so sorry for the plebs who will never know the joy of printing upwards of forty pages per minute with crisp, clean text, and doing double-sided and actually having it fucking work."

Similar but this instead of normal paper cutters. Two buttons needs to be held and then it activates with a pedal because your fingers will be gone before you have a chance to notice. It is so satisfying to use though.

https://youtu.be/OfIfMvNhKY4?t=171

 

[Dan D. Mann]

I bought a crappy HP Deskjet printer, model 2700. The funny thing is that it's original bw + color cartridge set costs more than the printer itself, which came with free cartridges. I might as well buy another printer than buy a set of original cartridges. What a waste... HP really stands for Horrible Products.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I bought a crappy HP Deskjet printer, model 2700. The funny thing is that it's original bw + color cartridge set costs more than the printer itself, which came with free cartridges. I might as well buy another printer than buy a set of original cartridges. What a waste... HP really stands for Horrible Products.

The included cartridges aren't full iirc.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

You'd have to be absolutely retarded to buy an injket printer in 2021 considering how easy and cheap it is to get colour pictures printed if you really need them, as opposed to keeping an inkjet printer around just in case you want to print out a picture.

Brother black and white laser printer master race. I haven't even needed to replace the cartridge since 2015 and it's going strong.

 

[Dan D. Mann]

You'd have to be absolutely retarded to buy an injket printer in 2021 considering how easy and cheap it is to get colour pictures printed if you really need them, as opposed to keeping an inkjet printer around just in case you want to print out a picture.

Brother black and white laser printer master race. I haven't even needed to replace the cartridge since 2015 and it's going strong.

I purchased it for my parents, which they didn't want to spend too much for a scanner + printer combo. I agree with ya though, inkjets suck.

I still use a dot matrix printer, believe it or not. I don't print documents that much so that printer is good enough for me. I changed it's ribbon a few months ago because the original one finally dried out after almost 10 years of service. Those things are tanks.

Anyway, if I change it in the future I'll def. get a laser one. What's your model? Sounds interesting.

 

[Slav Power]

I have a Brother DCP-J105, which is an inkjet printer. The photos it prints are kinda shit, but overall documents look good, and the official replacement cartridges are dirt cheap. I had plenty of issues with getting it to work with my PC and for the scanner option to pop up. The former I solved by connecting directly through the printer's IP address, this works flawlessly both on Windows and Android. The latter I solved by using the official driver installer which I was hesitant to use because of my experiences with the HP Photosmart printer I had, which would just install tons of useless software that I wouldn't need. I was pleasantly surprised that after installing the package with all the options unchecked the only bundleware I got is a utility program that doesn't try to constantly run in the background, it's just a little program that might be of use for some people. The important thing is that the installer has configured the scanner by using the direct IP connection, and even though the scanning option doesn't show up in Windows, NAPS2 sees the scanner and can use it without a hitch.Also it's funny that the utility software has a shortcut to a native Windows application that lists all scanners installed in Windows, and that menu is hidden away in Program Files. There is no shortcut to it in the Control Panel or the Settings aplet. Unfortunately I couldn't manually configure the scanner on my ThinkPad so I just used the installer again.

 

[Barbussy Enjoyer]

Whenever I see an email come through on the IT support mailing list because someone is having printer issues, I start to panic before I remember that it's not my problem and some other poor bastard has to deal with it.

 

[1996 Toyota Camry]

I am extremely happy with my Dell printer, which i think is just a rebranded Brother laser printer, it just fuckin works. I have never had any major issues with Brother printers over USB (that didnt wind up being user error). My Zebra label printer on the other hand is a major PITA under Windows, it was easier to set it up over network than USB.

Never buy an HP printer new enough to use USB.

I've sold a shitload of those cheap HP printers, the customer complaint rate for those is obscenely high

Time to print that boarding pass. Just need to turn the printer on, and...

Thank god for mobile boarding passes

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Low level blue collar job
"uh, there's a problem" - "Is it Jonas? Did he somehow get the forklift stuck again? Is he high on amphetamines?"

Small company IT
"uh, there's a problem" - "Is it the print spooler? Did it somehow disable network shares again? Is it using the latest HP drivers?"

HP can go above and beyond sometimes. At the time when these things happened their only competitor for undisputed light office work fuck up of the world was Adobe.

 

[burntwater]

I am extremely happy with my Dell printer, which i think is just a rebranded Brother laser printer, it just fuckin works. I have never had any major issues with Brother printers over USB (that didnt wind up being user error). My Zebra label printer on the other hand is a major PITA under Windows, it was easier to set it up over network than USB.

I've sold a shitload of those cheap HP printers, the customer complaint rate for those is obscenely high

Thank god for mobile boarding passes

I have a Brother HL-2270DW black and white laser printer that's been working great for over 10 years now. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to set up in CUPS on linux but that was mostly CUPS being a pain in the ass.

 

[1996 Toyota Camry]

I have a Brother HL-2270DW black and white laser printer that's been working great for over 10 years now. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to set up in CUPS on linux but that was mostly CUPS being a pain in the ass.

Brother truly is the printer manufacturer of the gods, i truly believe that in the event of total human annihilation post nuclear warfare, brother printers are going to be working as if nothing ever happened.

 

[spastic_bag]

Networks and printers are awful enough on their own. Together, they are a match made in the deepest recesses of hell.

 

[Moths]

Got me a new spanking epson WF 3825 and the best thing is that I can manually enter network credentials into it without communing with the machine gods with various button presses and flashing lights

however the fucking thing suddenly decided to start printing everything off-centre. My current working theory is driver issue since head realignment seemed fine

yeah it was a driver issue still had drivers from some ancient epson printer rip