Military Equipment Sperging Thread - The Tiger II is a better tank than the M1 Abrams edition

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Put this in the mega rad gun thread but it needs to be here too

A bit more about the SOCOM new guns orders/potential orders.

https://www.twz.com/land/inside-socoms-search-for-new-machine-guns-rifles-and-ammo
Looks like the .338 Lapua machine gun is on ice for now. I'm guessing the ammo is just too scarce and heavy although their use case of having it be on a vehicle vs a .50 cal is interesting.

They also want a new 7.62 NATO "light" machine gun to replace the Mk.48

They're looking into another 6.5CM AR along with the current Geissle one, new on is LMT.

All the tools the new 5.56mm carbine.

Not a peep about the retarded .277 Fury lol.
 
Falcos_Commisar dijo:
Knowing the Army, if the XM-30 goes to shit (unlikely as it's not super retarded except for the 2 man crew) they'll probably just keep using the M2A4 Bradley until 2050.
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Oh sure, but why pass up the chance to kill another program through feature and mission creep along the way? But yeah, jokes aside it looks like this one may really be different.
 

Lol, LMAO even. FCAS aka Franco-German 5th/6th Gen jet is DEAD.

France will be flogging the Rafale until the 2050s (probably) and Germany will be buying American 😎

GCAP aka UK, Japan, Italy and kinda Sweden 5th/6th Gen is still alive.... Technically.

If it goes under I could see Japan asking REALLY nicely for a F-47 derivative.

European defense industries taking L after L, as usual.
 
Falcos_Commisar dijo:
Put this in the mega rad gun thread but it needs to be here too

A bit more about the SOCOM new guns orders/potential orders.

https://www.twz.com/land/inside-socoms-search-for-new-machine-guns-rifles-and-ammo
Looks like the .338 Lapua machine gun is on ice for now. I'm guessing the ammo is just too scarce and heavy although their use case of having it be on a vehicle vs a .50 cal is interesting.

They also want a new 7.62 NATO "light" machine gun to replace the Mk.48

They're looking into another 6.5CM AR along with the current Geissle one, new on is LMT.

All the tools the new 5.56mm carbine.

Not a peep about the retarded .277 Fury lol.
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One day they will learn not much difference in lethality between rifle calibers when it comes to center mass double taps at under 10 yards.
 
Nice Stick dijo:
The Merkava 4 fuel tanks I presume?

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Catch The Rainbow dijo:
Hearing that 4 Israelis got killed by Hezbollah. Mark Levin is talking about it
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Given that Levin says “incinerated”, I assume he is referring to this Hezbollah ATGM hit on an IDF tank around Nabatieh?
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Either the fuel tanks or the ammo stowage. But that video doesn't actually show anything and semites of either religious leaning are known to lie constantly so we won't know until we see more. If we see more.
 
The Grognard dijo:
That was the primary motivator for the team in this timeline; but in an alternative universe where they actually won, it would be the most rational direction to take as it would effectively be a complete revamp of what they actually had in WW2 which was an incredibly wide variety of vehicles and equipment forcibly pressed into service from other nations.
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Plus random one-offs Hitler happened to think we were cool. This is a good book:

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There was so much crap in the Wehrmacht that was "Hitler thought this was neat, so they ordered 27 and put them into service."
 
74164978231 dijo:
One day they will learn not much difference in lethality between rifle calibers when it comes to center mass double taps at under 10 yards.
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I think the main thing about all this caliber wonk is that in the end, I expect everyone to eventually reorientate towards a solution that looks awfully lot like the 6.5 mm Swedish Mauser. Ideal ballistics for that 400 to 800 range, lighter than 7.62 NATO.
 
The Grognard dijo:
I think the main thing about all this caliber wonk is that in the end, I expect everyone to eventually reorientate towards a solution that looks awfully lot like the 6.5 mm Swedish Mauser. Ideal ballistics for that 400 to 800 range, lighter than 7.62 NATO.
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6mm to 6.5mm seems to be getting a LOT of play at the moment, for SF and DMRs

That said everyone is sticking with 5.56mm and 7.62mm for the next few decades at least.
 
Falcos_Commisar dijo:
6mm to 6.5mm seems to be getting a LOT of play at the moment, for SF and DMRs

That said everyone is sticking with 5.56mm and 7.62mm for the next few decades at least.
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Only really because replacing the ocean of existing ammo is a major hassle. Same reason why it's likely that the M4A1 will stick around for a very long while because it's still something that you can issue out to any moron who just needs a basic carbine and there's probably 57 million companies making AR-clones around the world.
 
The Ugly One dijo:
There was so much crap in the Wehrmacht that was "Hitler thought this was neat, so they ordered 27 and put them into service."
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Although, that was partly because the war came early for every party and they were still in in the phase of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. The same was true for the soviets and the bri'ish as well, though the soviets expended their prototypes in the first few years of the war and one of their experimental weird designs the BT series came through and became the ancestor of the MBT concept and the brits just kept theirs for the museums, or as horror stories like the Covenanter or the Valiant

Falcos_Commisar dijo:
Lol, LMAO even. FCAS aka Franco-German 5th/6th Gen jet is DEAD.
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Best part is, its not even because of technological or manufacturing or financial issues, but purely political. Both of them wanted to be the de facto leader of the EU and went full in on the brinksmanship. Even funnier how they managed to do this while trying to run a radical rearmament program and maintain a harsh, outright warlike tone against Russia about how "Russia might attack any second now" and "Conflict is inevitable", When you think you will be in a war with a peer opponent within years you would actually do this shit, instead of churning out whatever designs you have already in the EU? Poland alone is exactly doing that, buying up all the surplus planes, tanks, artillery, etc. on the market, even from places like South Korea. If the frogs or germoids wanted a big fucking stick to deter Russia, they could have manufactured hundreds of cheap, credible workhorses like JAS 39 Gripens and Aero L-159s as light attack aircraft during the time from licenses within the EU instead of joining a tech race that might produce a decent airplane in numbers in ten years. Warhawks without the strength to back it up are the worst.
 
A random street in Duluth dijo:
Although, that was partly because the war came early for every party and they were still in in the phase of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks.
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The book is worth reading. There are countless examples of, "some idiot ran up to Hitler with an idiot idea, and he loved it; non-idiots were concerned, and the idea ended up being a waste, and they made a tiny batch with no logistics." I'm talking about things like the Sturmmoerserwagen, where already scarce Tiger chassis were used to make an assault gun. They ordered a grand total of 18. 1944 wasn't the time to invest any time or resources into small-batch artisanal weapon systems. Then there was the truck that transformed into an AT gun...with a high, unstable platform, no space for the crew, and no protection, either.
 
Falcos_Commisar dijo:
Put this in the mega rad gun thread but it needs to be here too

A bit more about the SOCOM new guns orders/potential orders.

https://www.twz.com/land/inside-socoms-search-for-new-machine-guns-rifles-and-ammo
Looks like the .338 Lapua machine gun is on ice for now. I'm guessing the ammo is just too scarce and heavy although their use case of having it be on a vehicle vs a .50 cal is interesting.

They also want a new 7.62 NATO "light" machine gun to replace the Mk.48

They're looking into another 6.5CM AR along with the current Geissle one, new on is LMT.

All the tools the new 5.56mm carbine.

Not a peep about the retarded .277 Fury lol.
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The new .308 mg is by far the most important thing in there. Whatever ar15s socom has are most likely perfectly serviceable and an upgrade wouldn't be that useful.
MG's in the other hand are much more interesting to me
 
Rem-3 dijo:
The new .308 mg is by far the most important thing in there. Whatever ar15s socom has are most likely perfectly serviceable and an upgrade wouldn't be that useful.
MG's in the other hand are much more interesting to me
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Yes although the new ARs are probably going to be the apotheosis of the DI AR for the next few decades.

New barrel steel, new bolt steel and the best bolt designs, new lubricants and coatings, and chamber pressures around 82k PSI at max.

Plus they'll be eating M855A1 all day without issue.

This new upper design with a mid length gas system and 14.5-16 inch barrel would be the PERFECT "M4A3" and would STILL cost less than the M7 (fail) and M8 (soon to be fail)
 
Ohh shiiittt new US defense budget just dropped


Note that FVL aka new tilt rotor funding is zeroed out at this time..... I'm guessing they'll change it in negotiations. XM-30 is basically zeroed out 😄
Ultimately, House appropriators decided to fully fund both the E-7 and E-2D programs.

Here are other highlights from the report:

  • Army aviation assets saw big budget increases in the bill, including an added $493 million for the Black Hawk helicopter program, $456 million for the Chinook program and $240 million for MQ-1C Gray Eagle drones. However, procurement funding for the Future Vertical Lift family of systems was zeroed out.
  • The XM30 mechanized infantry combat vehicle set to replace the Bradley was also reduced from about $547 million to only $33 million, with appropriators claiming that the money was “early to need.”
  • House appropriators added $155 million for the Improved Turbine Engine program, which was zeroed out in the Army’s budget request.
  • The Navy’s request for $1 billion in advanced procurement funds for the Trump-class battleship survived the House appropriations bill, with members noting that the requirement is “the requirement for a large surface combatant is longstanding and well documented.”
  • At the same time, lawmakers are requiring the Navy to submit two reports on the battleship — one focused on the design requirements and acquisition for the new warship, and the second on how it plans to construct the battleships without interfering with other nuclear-powered vessels like the Ford-class carrier and Virginia-class submarine.
  • Funding for the Navy’s F/A-XX fighter would shoot up from $68 million to $915 million, with the committee urging the Pentagon to “take all actions necessary to meet the August 2026 F/A– XX EMD award and to pursue the most accelerated timeline possible”
  • Appropriators would trim the P-8 Poseidon program from $4.2 billion to $2.8 billion, citing “excess growth” in nonrecurring engineering costs and funds that are “excess to need.” It’s unclear whether that impacts the Navy’s plan to buy 12 aircraft during FY27.
  • The Navy’s Conventional Prompt Strike hypersonic weapons program would also take a meaty cut of about $239 million due to program delays and excess growth in support costs, leaving it with a total of $510 million for the year.
  • The Air Force’s HH-60W combat rescue helicopter would see its funding sharply increased by $215 million for a total of $284 million, allowing the service to buy additional aircraft.
  • The VC-25B program, better known as the Air Force One replacement, would see funding slightly drop from $555 million to $547 million due to a “program adjustment.”
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Oh and Germany is cancelling its F126 Frigates 😜 some massive rearmament right?

 
Falcos_Commisar dijo:
Ohh shiiittt new US defense budget just dropped

https://breakingdefense.com/2026/06...t-defense-bill-adopt-war-department-renaming/
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For those interested, here's the breakdown of the bill's nuclear-related sections.

Congress continues to force the DoE to keep the SLCM-N program alive. Outside of that, the select provisions are interesting. There's considerations on restoring the B-1B as a nuclear-capable aircraft, a doubling-down on ICBMs, and an increase in pit production.
 
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