Military Equipment Sperging Thread - The Tiger II is a better tank than the M1 Abrams edition

[Falcos_Commisar]

Put this in the mega rad gun thread but it needs to be here too

A bit more about the SOCOM new guns orders/potential orders.

https://www.twz.com/land/inside-socoms-search-for-new-machine-guns-rifles-and-ammo
Looks like the .338 Lapua machine gun is on ice for now. I'm guessing the ammo is just too scarce and heavy although their use case of having it be on a vehicle vs a .50 cal is interesting.

They also want a new 7.62 NATO "light" machine gun to replace the Mk.48

They're looking into another 6.5CM AR along with the current Geissle one, new on is LMT.

All the tools the new 5.56mm carbine.

Not a peep about the retarded .277 Fury lol.

 

[VF-1J Armored Valkyrie]

Knowing the Army, if the XM-30 goes to shit (unlikely as it's not super retarded except for the 2 man crew) they'll probably just keep using the M2A4 Bradley until 2050.

Oh sure, but why pass up the chance to kill another program through feature and mission creep along the way? But yeah, jokes aside it looks like this one may really be different.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

https://breakingdefense.com/2026/06/after-the-fall-of-fcas-fighter-germany-eyes-realistic-future-projects-with-france/

Lol, LMAO even. FCAS aka Franco-German 5th/6th Gen jet is DEAD.

France will be flogging the Rafale until the 2050s (probably) and Germany will be buying American

GCAP aka UK, Japan, Italy and kinda Sweden 5th/6th Gen is still alive.... Technically.

If it goes under I could see Japan asking REALLY nicely for a F-47 derivative.

European defense industries taking L after L, as usual.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

European defense industries taking L after L, as usual.

The greatest enemy of any European business: involving the rest of Europe.

 

[Nice Stick]

The Merkava 4 fuel tanks I presume?

Publicar en el tema 'Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel'

Jueves a las 22:27

Hearing that 4 Israelis got killed by Hezbollah. Mark Levin is talking about it

Given that Levin says “incinerated”, I assume he is referring to this Hezbollah ATGM hit on an IDF tank around Nabatieh?
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[74164978231]

Put this in the mega rad gun thread but it needs to be here too

A bit more about the SOCOM new guns orders/potential orders.

https://www.twz.com/land/inside-socoms-search-for-new-machine-guns-rifles-and-ammo
Looks like the .338 Lapua machine gun is on ice for now. I'm guessing the ammo is just too scarce and heavy although their use case of having it be on a vehicle vs a .50 cal is interesting.

They also want a new 7.62 NATO "light" machine gun to replace the Mk.48

They're looking into another 6.5CM AR along with the current Geissle one, new on is LMT.

All the tools the new 5.56mm carbine.

Not a peep about the retarded .277 Fury lol.

One day they will learn not much difference in lethality between rifle calibers when it comes to center mass double taps at under 10 yards.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The Merkava 4 fuel tanks I presume?

Publicar en el tema 'Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel'

Jueves a las 22:27

Hearing that 4 Israelis got killed by Hezbollah. Mark Levin is talking about it

Given that Levin says “incinerated”, I assume he is referring to this Hezbollah ATGM hit on an IDF tank around Nabatieh?
-2997921395268326319.mp4

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Reacciones: x 2 x 5

Either the fuel tanks or the ammo stowage. But that video doesn't actually show anything and semites of either religious leaning are known to lie constantly so we won't know until we see more. If we see more.

 

[The Ugly One]

That was the primary motivator for the team in this timeline; but in an alternative universe where they actually won, it would be the most rational direction to take as it would effectively be a complete revamp of what they actually had in WW2 which was an incredibly wide variety of vehicles and equipment forcibly pressed into service from other nations.

Plus random one-offs Hitler happened to think we were cool. This is a good book:

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-German-Armored-Vehicles/dp/1510716572

There was so much crap in the Wehrmacht that was "Hitler thought this was neat, so they ordered 27 and put them into service."

 

[The Grognard]

One day they will learn not much difference in lethality between rifle calibers when it comes to center mass double taps at under 10 yards.

I think the main thing about all this caliber wonk is that in the end, I expect everyone to eventually reorientate towards a solution that looks awfully lot like the 6.5 mm Swedish Mauser. Ideal ballistics for that 400 to 800 range, lighter than 7.62 NATO.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I think the main thing about all this caliber wonk is that in the end, I expect everyone to eventually reorientate towards a solution that looks awfully lot like the 6.5 mm Swedish Mauser. Ideal ballistics for that 400 to 800 range, lighter than 7.62 NATO.

6mm to 6.5mm seems to be getting a LOT of play at the moment, for SF and DMRs

That said everyone is sticking with 5.56mm and 7.62mm for the next few decades at least.

 

[The Grognard]

6mm to 6.5mm seems to be getting a LOT of play at the moment, for SF and DMRs

That said everyone is sticking with 5.56mm and 7.62mm for the next few decades at least.

Only really because replacing the ocean of existing ammo is a major hassle. Same reason why it's likely that the M4A1 will stick around for a very long while because it's still something that you can issue out to any moron who just needs a basic carbine and there's probably 57 million companies making AR-clones around the world.

 

[A random street in Duluth]

There was so much crap in the Wehrmacht that was "Hitler thought this was neat, so they ordered 27 and put them into service."

Although, that was partly because the war came early for every party and they were still in in the phase of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. The same was true for the soviets and the bri'ish as well, though the soviets expended their prototypes in the first few years of the war and one of their experimental weird designs the BT series came through and became the ancestor of the MBT concept and the brits just kept theirs for the museums, or as horror stories like the Covenanter or the Valiant

Lol, LMAO even. FCAS aka Franco-German 5th/6th Gen jet is DEAD.

Best part is, its not even because of technological or manufacturing or financial issues, but purely political. Both of them wanted to be the de facto leader of the EU and went full in on the brinksmanship. Even funnier how they managed to do this while trying to run a radical rearmament program and maintain a harsh, outright warlike tone against Russia about how "Russia might attack any second now" and "Conflict is inevitable", When you think you will be in a war with a peer opponent within years you would actually do this shit, instead of churning out whatever designs you have already in the EU? Poland alone is exactly doing that, buying up all the surplus planes, tanks, artillery, etc. on the market, even from places like South Korea. If the frogs or germoids wanted a big fucking stick to deter Russia, they could have manufactured hundreds of cheap, credible workhorses like JAS 39 Gripens and Aero L-159s as light attack aircraft during the time from licenses within the EU instead of joining a tech race that might produce a decent airplane in numbers in ten years. Warhawks without the strength to back it up are the worst.

 

[The Ugly One]

Although, that was partly because the war came early for every party and they were still in in the phase of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks.

The book is worth reading. There are countless examples of, "some idiot ran up to Hitler with an idiot idea, and he loved it; non-idiots were concerned, and the idea ended up being a waste, and they made a tiny batch with no logistics." I'm talking about things like the Sturmmoerserwagen, where already scarce Tiger chassis were used to make an assault gun. They ordered a grand total of 18. 1944 wasn't the time to invest any time or resources into small-batch artisanal weapon systems. Then there was the truck that transformed into an AT gun...with a high, unstable platform, no space for the crew, and no protection, either.