Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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It's not 2003 anymore, the Republican party's voterbase is divided between people who are willing to tolerate some neoconservatism as long as the migrants get kicked out and people who barely care about anything other than spiting Israel but also want the migrants kicked out. Anyone running against Rubio could clip his ads entirely from footage of the old pro-amnesty Marco's speeches and he'd have the primary locked up.

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Case in point. Ghostse and his polycule can tantrum all they want about this, but normal Americans like Trump's deal.
 
If this goes south its because Trump was a retard and made Hezbollah part of the equation.
“It’s always Trump’s fault”
Even if the outcome wasn’t the one you wanted

:story:
He’s a retard if he makes war, he’s a retard if he makes peace. He’s a retard if he makes a deal, he’s a retard if it falls through.

It’s so tiresome. Get a fucking hobby lol.
 
I'm not entirely convinced it wouldn't have better if we actually did just literally turn around and leave. Just point our fleet back home and just go with no deal. Say nothing...or given Trump's ego declare victory and simply clear out. Iran can deal with the PR hit if they want to charge tolls.

It might have preserved our dignity a bit better than this current situation of actively being cucked with the appearance of actual giveaways and bribes and lobbying for Iran
That's even worse, as it would have left the nuclear situation and the SoH gone unsolved, remember that both Iran and the US have pulled out of the old JCPOA prior to this war, nothing would have stopped Iran from actually trying out nuclear proliferation except maybe Israel unironically nuking them, and would you like the SoH under toll control?
 
Trump is simply not the type of guy that can handle the responsibility long, grueling wars, and he wants the get the fuck out of there ASAP
Vance mentioned at some point how the war effort suffers from diminishing returns once the big expensive hard assets are all bombed and ruined. So once we reach that point of fulfillment it becomes harder to justify continued military action just to bag the spare technical here or there and your only way of escalating is boots on the ground which would have been hugely unpopular.

Honestly I can see the rationale. The war in Iran is pointless if Trump loses popular support at home. Trump simply does not have the mandate to wage a protracted invasion and occupation of foreign soil the same way Dubya had carte blanche in the aftermath of 9/11. Israel for their part seems to either not understand the political constraints on what courses of action Trump can take, or they simply don't care (most likely).
 
Their reasoning apparently:
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They of course link fluff piece articles for their reasoning. Very interesting.

Apologies for doubleposting, but:

Regardless of what the actual outcome is, it's well known IRGC affiliates have been editing pages relating to Iran. There was a huge edit war for the article on the protests, for example. Wikipedia is gay.
Lmao I just checked their entry on the Battle of Bint Jbeil, which had been updated to say it was an Israeli victory previously, and now that line is just gone as if the editors really didn't want to admit the Jews got a W but also realized it would be impossible to spin the battle as a Hezb W, still ongoing or even 'just' a draw. They also marked the Hezb commander who died there as 'Assassinated' (an X symbol) instead of properly 'Killed In Action' (a cross symbol).

The current status of Bint Jbeil is that it's been razed, most certainly including all the sites of symbolic importance to Hezb, and that Hezbollah was last spotted doing anything in or around the town on 24 April; 10 Hezb fighters got into a firefight with the IDF and were annihilated that day - in hindsight they were probably the last remnant of Hezb presence there since no more fighting has been reported in the almost 2 months since. I'm not sufficiently :optimistic: to insist on just blindly trvsting the plan and that the Don will fashion the Gayatollah's & Vahidi's buckbroken remains into a new throne for Reza Shah II in the end, but the wishcasting among the Turd World/Islamist/leftist confluence in the opposite direction is something else.

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Stick a fork in 'er, we're done here lads

Wikipedia, and therefore the normie hivemind has concluded it as such
When a strategic failure on the part of the United States and Israel is what happened, it's safe to say it's a nominally victory for the other side.

Warhawks are legit in denial at this point, the only thing that's keeping them comfortable is the hypothetical scenario of bombs dropping once again on Iranian soil.

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Case in point. Ghostse and his polycule can tantrum all they want about this, but normal Americans like Trump's deal.

Most Americans don't care about the specifics of the deal: How the Uranium will be handled, the sanctions relief, and investments, they just want the war to stop and having lower energy prices, if you look at this from someone who is apolitical, this deal is a good thing.
 
Hearing that 4 Israelis got killed by Hezbollah. Mark Levin is talking about it

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A special FUCK YOU to Mark Levin for breaking military censorship and scaring every mother in Israel who has a child serving in Lebanon.

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northern Israel, March 23, 2026. (David Cohen/Flash90)
At least three Hezbollah terror operatives captured during Israel’s recent round of fighting with the Iran-backed group received medical treatment at Ziv Medical Center in Safed, where they were held under IDF guard while receiving care, two sources with direct knowledge told The Times of Israel.

The same northern hospital has also recently treated a young Syrian Druze civilian from the village of Hader, near the Israeli-Syrian border, who was accompanied by her mother, according to a separate source, also with direct knowledge.

The cases — which the IDF and Ziv hospital did not deny — raise questions regarding Israel’s military and humanitarian medical policy, as well as domestic controversy over treating enemy fighters inside civilian hospitals.

According to the sources, the Hezbollah terrorists were treated at Ziv roughly two weeks ago, and kept handcuffed and blindfolded in a room guarded by IDF soldiers.

The treatment of Hezbollah operatives in a civilian hospital would be an apparent contravention of a Health Ministry decision, made shortly after Hamas’s October 7, 2023, onslaught, that captured terrorists would only be treated in the medical facilities of the IDF or the Israel Prison Service — though that decision has reportedly been contravened before, and focused mainly on Hamas terrorists in the aftermath of the massacre.


The IDF Spokesperson’s Office did not deny the sources’ accounts. In a written response to The Times of Israel, it said that over the past year, it had arrested individuals suspected of involvement in terror activity against Israeli civilians or troops, and that detainees requiring medical care receive it from IDF medical personnel or, when medically necessary, are transferred to hospitals.


Ziv Medical Center also declined to confirm the details to The Times of Israel, citing medical confidentiality, privacy, and security considerations, but did not deny that such patients had been treated there. The hospital said it operates according to law, state directives, and medical ethics, and provides care to anyone brought to it whose medical condition requires treatment.

The Health Ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

Treated as required, guarded ’24/7′
In its response, the IDF said that “as part of the IDF’s effort to maintain security,” various security operations were carried out over the past year, “including the arrest of individuals suspected of involvement in terrorist activity against Israeli civilians or IDF forces.”

Such suspects, the military said, are taken for “further questioning, screening, and detention at a designated facility inside Israel.” It added that arrests in the field and detention inside Israel are regulated by Israeli law and IDF orders.

Israel’s Incarceration of Unlawful Combatants Law allows a person to be held in detention when there is a reasonable basis to believe the person participated directly or indirectly in hostilities against Israel, or belongs to a force carrying out hostilities against Israel, and when their release could endanger state security.


“Throughout the period of detention, medical supervision is provided as needed and in accordance with legal obligations, and regular medical examinations are conducted,” the military said, adding that “detainees who require medical treatment receive care from certified medical personnel in the IDF, and in certain cases, when required according to medical need, they are transferred to hospitals for further treatment.”

In such cases, there are “24/7 security and oversight mechanisms in place to ensure the detainees pose no safety risk” to surrounding civilians, the IDF said.

In the case of the Syrian civilian, the IDF said it “provides life-saving medical assistance to Syrian civilians, in accordance with a policy determined in advance by the political echelon and coordinated with all relevant bodies.”

The IDF appeared to be referring to Israel’s longstanding, politically approved policy of providing humanitarian medical assistance to Syrian civilians in exceptional cases — a practice that began during the Syrian civil war under Operation Good Neighbor, was formally wound down in 2018, and has resurfaced in a more limited form after recent incidents of violence against Druze populations across the Syrian border.

Hader, the Druze village on the Syrian side of the Golan from which the young woman and her mother were said to have come, has been closely watched by Israel’s 150,000-strong Druze community, which has pressed Israeli authorities to protect Syrian Druze there.

Israel has at times used medical care as a tool of humanitarian outreach with neighboring countries. The Times of Israel revealed in December that Israel is advancing a plan to develop a hospital on its territory to treat Jordanian patients, as part of a joint Israeli-Jordanian industrial park along the border of the two countries.


Hospital stresses ‘medical ethics’
Safed’s Ziv Medical Center is the main hospital serving much of the Galilee and Golan region.

In its response, the hospital said it “operates in accordance with the law, the directives of state authorities, and the principles of medical ethics that bind every medical institution in Israel.

“The hospital provides medical care to any person brought to it when their medical condition requires it, regardless of their identity, religion, nationality, or the circumstances of their injury,” the response read.

The hospital declined to address details of any patients it has treated “for reasons of medical confidentiality, protection of patients’ privacy, and security considerations.”

The hospital did not respond directly to questions on whether staff members had objected to treating Hezbollah terrorists, whether patients nearby were informed, or whether there had been requests to transfer such patients to a military medical facility.

Asked specifically whether civilian medical staff are required to treat enemy fighters, the IDF and Ziv said the question should be referred to the Health Ministry, which oversees civilian hospitals. The ministry did not respond by publication time.


The Israeli Medical Association, however, has explicitly stated that Israeli doctors treat all human beings regardless of their actions, and that even captured Hamas terrorists receive necessary care according to medical need.

Such policies also carry an international dimension, as Israeli officials have at times pointed to Israel’s treatment of captured or wounded enemy fighters as evidence that it operates in accordance with the laws of war, even against terrorist organizations that deliberately target civilians.
 
The war in Iran is pointless if Trump loses popular support at home. Trump simply does not have the mandate to wage a protracted invasion and occupation of foreign soil the same way Dubya had carte blanche in the aftermath of 9/11.
But by the same token its unecessary. There's no actual motivation to do anything except to get Iran to submit. This can go on forever.
 
I don't assign blame for past actions. It's how you get out of feuds like this. Medieval feuds ended one of three ways. One side lost and got annihilated, both sides agreed to stop or the king forced them both under his arbitration. Israel is too small to permanently defeat its neighbors. The US does not have the standing with the muslim groups to force an arbitration and wouldn't be seen as a neutral power anyway. So the feud will continue until Israel pays the costs of implementing a workable peace, whatever form that cost will be in or until it loses. Which side is in the right is irrelevant.
Israel is a modern nation state with a powerful army, an arsenal of nuclear weapons, and the backing of the USA. The people who will eventually be forced to terms are going to be the Palestinians. Israel's neighbors don't really give a shit about the Palestinians, by the way, not anymore.
 
I see that this monumental loss has now been considered a historic dub. May every American domicile have a prayer rug as per decree of دونالد ترامب, wallahi habibi may $600,000,000,000 more rain down from Allah.
 
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