Marvel Cinematic Universe

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CheezzyMach dijo:
Pretty much all the Universal Monster crossovers were done in comedy films and most Godzilla films weren't brought to the West until fairly recently.
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No, Toho monster movies were released in the USA pretty much nonstop since they started. There was a brief lull in the 90s but that's about it.
 
Sometimes it took a few years for the Toho movies to get released (Monster Zero didn't come to the states till 1970, 5 years after the movie's Japanese release) but generally, the films did see US releases around the same time they were released in Japan and all the Showa films had all been released in the US in some way, shape, or form by the time I was born in the mid 80s. Toho was actually pretty close to the MCU formula if you think about it.

Godzilla gets a standalone movie and a sequel (Making him the Iron Man, the glue that holds everything together); Rodan, Mothra, Varan, and a couple of others get their own movies; King Kong, I guess, would be like the Spider-Man of the group as he was added in on loan from another studio. And then we got all the crossovers: "King Kong Vs. Godzilla", "Mothra Vs. Godzilla", "Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster", etc. If I'm going to apply MCU terminology to things, I'd call G:TTHM the end of "Phase 1", and the films that followed Phase 2 with new monsters like The Gargantuas, Manda, Baragon, Gorosaurus, Kumonga, and Minilla all added to the mix with Godzilla still front and center and then it finally culminates with their version of The Avengers, "Destroy All Monsters". After that, the Toho monster movies basically became "The Godzilla Series" and everything just kind of centered on his series of films, but everything leading up to DAM was more of a shared universe concept.

Sadly, The Gargantuas never crossed over with Godzilla, but what can you do?

As for the Universal Monster crossovers mostly being comedies, that isn't strictly true. The first crossover was Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man, which dovetails off of the events of "The Wolf Man" and "Ghost of Frankenstein". Then we got the two "House of" movies which put The Wolf Man, Dracula, and The Frankenstein Monster all together for the first time, with hunchbacks and mad scientists thrown in for good measure.

It wasn't until after those movies that we got "Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein" which put all three monsters together again with the comedy duo as the main leads. (Fun fact: This movie was only Bela Lugosi's 2nd film portrayal of Dracula), and that was where the comedy aspect of the monster films basically took over. But even then, after that it was pretty much just one monster with Abbot and Costello, and not much crossing over among the monsters. "Meet Frankenstein" was the only one that kind of fit in with the classic monster movies anyway since the Monsters behaved as they would in any normal Universal Monster movie (which to me made the film funnier, but hey).
 
friedshrimp dijo:
Why do I bet anything white supremacist girl genuinely believes that nonsense? I've seen so many Disney/Nu Wars/MCU spergs admit liking only their mediocre movies because of politics "muh lesbian princess/Give Cap a Boyfriend/Stormpilot is Real/We are WAKANDAAAA"
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I've noticed this too. Lately it seems they just focus on Disney's attempt at superficial diversity pandering as the plots themselves are usually pretty thin, and mostly just consist of quips, action scenes and boring characters. And I think it's gonna get a lot worse.

Being insulted for feeling this way also isn't gonna make me enjoy these movies, in fact it does the opposite since the people who like these movies seem to be outright cunts nowadays.
 
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I mean, Transformers and the Disney Remakes also make money, but only the most brandead of normies and SJWs like those movies. I don't think there's anybody out there who genuinely thinks Maleficent is better than the Godfather.
 
friedshrimp dijo:
I mean, Transformers and the Disney Remakes also make money, but only the most brandead of normies and SJWs like those movies. I don't think there's anybody out there who genuinely thinks Maleficent is better than the Godfather.
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Godfather is overrated. There are much better crime films imo. I do love the video game and the references to the franchise in media though.
 
Commander X dijo:
Like clockwork

Marvel Movies Have Earned More Than Double Scorsese and Coppola's Box Office Hauls Combined

Watching defenders of the MCU trying to develop comebacks and the best they can force out of their communal brain cell after having a good long hard thinkin' session is "E-endgame made a lot of m-m-money...the b-b-b-box office..."
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Of course money is more important than actual Artistic cinema.....


Marvel is the 4/10 that you bang on the side during high school cause well, it's better than jerking off and she makes you feel good for a time but after a while it's still the same and she cries after sex sometimes. Scorsese and Coppola are that sultry 9/10 vixen that draws you in, teases you ruthlessly, makes you hunger for her and then when you have what you came for you feel like you combined climbing Everest with The Best Steak Dinner Ever. You tell all your friends about that night but most don't believe you because the 4/10 is easier to deal with even with the tears and that 9/10 just feels like real work to enjoy.
 
jellycar dijo:
Godfather is overrated. There are much better crime films imo. I do love the video game and the references to the franchise in media though.
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The video game is awesome, but The Godfather Trilogy will always be the ultimate film trilogy to me for a reason.

(Although Goodfellas and Casino are better, with The Godfather Trilogy in a close second)
 
Syaoran Li dijo:
The video game is awesome, but The Godfather Trilogy will always be the ultimate film trilogy to me for a reason.

(Although Goodfellas and Casino are better, with The Godfather Trilogy in a close second)
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If you like the trilogy go on the high seas and look for this version:

The Godfather: The Complete Epic HD (1901-1980) (v2 0) - MKV - Fan Edit

Croweyes1121's Description: This is an extension of HBO's "The Complete Epic (1901-1959)" airing from 2016. For those unfamiliar with that version, it was essentially a slightly longer version of the "Godfather Trilogy (1901-1980)" laserdisc release, which put all of the films in chronological order and added nearly an hour of additional footage. The HBO airing was the longest-ever version of the first two films in the saga, including footage from both the "Trilogy" chronological cut, and even a few scenes created for "The Novel For Television" cut that didn't make the "Trilogy" version. However, there were two exceptions:

1. The "Trilogy" version, inexplicably, placed the assassination of Don Ciccio after Michael's "times are changing" line in Part II. The HBO version rightfully restored the assassination sequence to its proper chronological location.

2. The HBO version excised "The Godfather Part III" entirely. I know this might be seen by some as a good thing, but I'm maybe one of the only people on the planet who actually enjoys Part III right alongside the other two films, and I loved the "Trilogy" edit because it included all of the movies together.

Now, for the first time in HD, I present the retitled:

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This represents the longest version of the complete Godfather Trilogy. It's the only copy of the nearly 10-hour version (complete with Part III) in HD anywhere. I have only re-encoded less than one minute of total footage from the HBO version -- just what was absolutely necessary to incorporate the new title card (just the 1980 date has been revised as in the torrent image) and the Part II to Part III transition. Otherwise, the quality is identical to the 14.5GB "Novel for Television 1977 Extended" torrent (actually the HBO version) that's been floating around for a while. I just kept Part III to the same relative (720p) quality as that torrent, which was the only source for the HBO airing. This edit ends with Part III's credits rather than HBO's, just because I wanted one less step in the process, and neither would have been technically correct to use since this includes all three films.
 
I only saw the first two. My film professor said the second one is better than the first one. I thought it was better but I've been told I dodged a bullet with the third one
 
Godfather 3 is...not great.

Its not as bad as its reputation. I've seen MUCH worse movies and much worse sequels, but when you consider the high quality of the first two films and the huge drop off here, it is staggering to say the least.

And Sofia Coppola's performance is embarrassingly bad, so bad that I actually felt sorry for her. Her having to share the screen with great actors like Pacino only highlighted her deficiencies even more.
 
The "helicopter" assault on the mob conference in 3 is just embarrassing to watch - we hear 'helicopter noises' but don't actually see it, just extreme closeups of what might be men in what might be a helicopter firing off their Uzis, mob guys flopping backwards as they're hit, it looks more like a scene out of a low-budget action series produced directly for syndication than a scene in a followup to two big films, just one example of this sort of aura of chintziness that covers the film.
 
CheezzyMach dijo:
I do wonder if part of the reason people rabidly defend the MCU is the Disney brand.

If Fox or Sony had beaten them to the punch and made a cinematic universe surrounding the X-Men/FF and Spider-Man characters would we see the same die-hard fanboyism?
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Fox DID try to make an X-men cinematic universe. All those films are, nominally, taking place in the same universe (barring time travel / alternate timeline shenanigans in DoFP). That universe didn’t fail because it wasn’t Disney, it failed because half of them (arguably more) were total trash, and there was zero effort into actually building a UNIVERSE.

The reason you have a lot of people defending the MCU is because the worst thing you can really say about it (so far, anyways) is that it’s repetitively mediocre, not outright *bad*. With maybe a few exceptions (both Ant-man movies come to mind), there’s just nothing exceptionally bad about the MCU films that you could reasonably expect people to care about.

And, to its credit, it was able to maintain a mostly coherent and non-conflicting timeline over the course of a decade of films. That’s not soemthing I expect we’ll see again any time in the near future, even from the MCU itself.
 
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