Jurassic Park/World megathread - Spared no expense.

[Biek Fowler]

and it's lame that it's not clear what's supposed to have happened to it

I'm not sure if they gave a lore reason why but I don't know they the DPG didn't just re-home the dinosaurs on Sorna. I'm probably just forgetting but it seems like the easier solution.

 

[A Grey Cat]

So no love for Paul Kirby? Ik jp3 is probably the first low point in the series but...this guy climbed a crane and was nearly eaten by a spinosaurus. Plus William h macy did give a funny line or two here and there.

"You've got juice for maybe one call whatever you do don't call the us embassy they won't do a damn thing."

"Who's got some change? it only takes quarters.i got like a buck...a buck ten."

also speaking of jp3 I've always wondered what the reception would have been like if they went with the other scripts the earliest one penned would have had grant living on the island to study a strange mutation in the dinosaurs and other would have been about the dinosaurs transmitting a strange disease to people similar to the dx plot point in the lost world novel.

The one that almost got made and bears the closest resemblance to the finished film would have been about a plane crashing on the island after it broke up into two parts(ironically would have beaten lost to the punch by 3 years.) And they're be two groups of survivors. The adults and their tennaged kids on two sides of the island trying to get back to each other. A lot of the actors recall reading that script and preparing to make that movie up until it became clear the script was changed last minute to what we ultimately got.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I'm not sure if they gave a lore reason why but I don't know they the DPG didn't just re-home the dinosaurs on Sorna. I'm probably just forgetting but it seems like the easier solution.

I've now fallen down the rabbit hole of reading the Jurassic Park wikia and it seems that what happened to Sorna was they simply moved all the dinosaurs from there to Nublar.

But that still doesn't explain why Sorna wasn't the island the DPG wanted to move them to.

Also on a side note it seems that Jurassic World was supposed to be first announced to the public in 2002, which is an interesting tidbit of information.

So no love for Paul Kirby? Ik jp3 is probably the first low point in the series but...this guy climbed a crane and was nearly eaten by a spinosaurus. Plus William h macy did give a funny line or two here and there.

"You've got juice for maybe one call whatever you do don't call the us embassy they won't do a damn thing."

"Who's got some change? it only takes quarters.i got like a buck...a buck ten."

also speaking of jp3 I've always wondered what the reception would have been like if they went with the other scripts the earliest one penned would have had grant living on the island to study a strange mutation in the dinosaurs and other would have been about the dinosaurs transmitting a strange disease to people similar to the dx plot point in the lost world novel.

The one that almost got made and bears the closest resemblance to the finished film would have been about a plane crashing on the island after it broke up into two parts(ironically would have beaten lost to the punch by 3 years.) And they're be two groups of survivors. The adults and their tennaged kids on two sides of the island trying to get back to each other. A lot of the actors recall reading that script and preparing to make that movie up until it became clear the script was changed last minute to what we ultimately got.

All that sounds more interesting than what we got.

 

[Biek Fowler]

Also on a side note it seems that Jurassic World was supposed to be first announced to the public in 2002, which is an interesting tidbit of information.

I love weird little lore bits. Spinosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Corythosaurus, and Ceratosaurus were illegally cloned in-between The Lost World and JP3 for Jurassic World. The Spinosaurus is also technically the first hybrid because it was apart of something called "amalgam testing". This could explain why it's so massive in the film.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I love weird little lore bits. Spinosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Corythosaurus, and Ceratosaurus were illegally cloned in-between The Lost World and JP3 for Jurassic World. The Spinosaurus is also technically the first hybrid because it was apart of something called "amalgam testing". This could explain why it's so massive in the film.

Yes, they seem to have since come up with an explanation for why the Spinosaurus was in 3 even though it "wasn't in InGen's records" as Dr Grant said.

At some point between the second and third movies a group of rogue InGen scientists went to Site B and cloned a few more dinosaurs.

It still doesn't make a ton of sense, who exactly were these scientists and why did they clone more dinosaurs and how was the equipment at Site B's lab even still usable? But it's better than nothing.

On a side note I've always wondered what a plotline for a third Michael Crichton Jurassic Park novel could have been, supposedly he wanted to write a third one but simply wasn't able to come up with a good enough idea, but I wonder what his ideas were, if anything?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The Spinosaurus is also technically the first hybrid because it was apart of something called "amalgam testing". This could explain why it's so massive in the film.

And that's why it was so malicious, too. Though if I remember right, that was because it was still being experimented on as an infant and it held a grudge toward all humans.

 

[Max Doof]

And that's why it was so malicious, too. Though if I remember right, that was because it was still being experimented on as an infant and it held a grudge toward all humans.

There was also that blink and you miss moment where the planes propellers sliced up his tail/spine which is why you see blood splattered on the windows and why it was persistent in killing the group.

 

[Biek Fowler]

Since we're chatting about the JP3 Spinosaurus, can we appreciate how great the animatronic looks? I know it's not scientifically correct but it looks amazing.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Since we're chatting about the JP3 Spinosaurus, can we appreciate how great the animatronic looks? I know it's not scientifically correct but it looks amazing.

Iirc that animatronic held the record for largest on screen animatronic used in a movie it would have only been beaten out by the animatronic hulk in the 2003 movie had they used it instead of going all cgi

 

[Biek Fowler]

Iirc that animatronic held the record for largest on screen animatronic used in a movie it would have only been beaten out by the animatronic hulk in the 2003 movie had they used it instead of going all cgi

I think you're right about that. JP3 may not be the best movie but there's parts of it that I just love, mostly the abandoned Ingen structures and the Spinosaurus.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I think you're right about that. JP3 may not be the best movie but there's parts of it that I just love, mostly the abandoned Ingen structures and the Spinosaurus.

The lab they run into is not the same in universe as abandoned ingen worker village in the lost world but it is the same set the set is still standing to this day although just barley the building itself has long since collapsed in on itself and so has the observation tower

 

[Biek Fowler]

I have this weird love for abandoned places so I love Sorna cause it's filled with them. I wish we got to see more of the original park after the events of the first movie besides that one scene in Jurassic World. The one where they stumble across the og vistor center.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Since we're chatting about the JP3 Spinosaurus, can we appreciate how great the animatronic looks? I know it's not scientifically correct but it looks amazing.

I love how they made this animatronic be super OP without meaning it to be. They didn't think the T-Rex animatronic would be ripped apart like it did, though they should've upgraded its parts since it had been ten years.

I know it took us until Fallen Kingdom to get that Baryonyx, but I think it would've been nice to have still had one in the movie. Like it could've been the Spinosaurus' sidekick or something, give us a bit of dinosaur hierarchy. But eh, least Ice Age 3 came to the rescue on that.

 

[Max Doof]

JP 3's saving grace was its super short run time imo. Part of me still would've loved the original teenage horror idea if they could fit alan grant in it but as is it could've been way worse considering they kept rewriting the damn thing.

 

[Dom Cruise]

There was also that blink and you miss moment where the planes propellers sliced up his tail/spine which is why you see blood splattered on the windows and why it was persistent in killing the group.

Huh, I never noticed that.

Since we're chatting about the JP3 Spinosaurus, can we appreciate how great the animatronic looks? I know it's not scientifically correct but it looks amazing.

I don't hate JP3 because despite the story being so incredibly weak it still has some impressive, cool stuff in it.

But man, I'll never forget the "that's it?" feeling I had when I saw the movie as a kid because it did nothing to bring the overall story forward, I would have to wait almost another 15 years for that to happen.

I have this weird love for abandoned places so I love Sorna cause it's filled with them. I wish we got to see more of the original park after the events of the first movie besides that one scene in Jurassic World. The one where they stumble across the og vistor center.

I still feel like there's a movie to be made about what happened to the shaving cream canister, soon after the events of the first movie.

If you played the Telltale game, something very much like that.

Basically a "Rogue One" esque midquel, but for Jurassic Park.

 

[Max Doof]

As a kid I thought a cool subplot to have for JP 3 would've been to have find out that the trex that was killed was the baby from the lost world so you would see the parents track down spino while he was stalking alan and co. The climax would've been the same except you would have the patents there fighting spino and in the end succeeded in avenging the baby while everyone managed to escape.

 

[Owen Grady]

When I was a kid I always thought a really great idea for a midquel or spinoff would be a movie showing what happened on Site B in between Jurassic Park and The Lost World: Jurassic Park, when the Isla Sorna facilities were knocked out by Hurricane Clarissa and the dinosaurs were left to roam free. There's bound to be another secret or a survivor story or two that took place there.

You could also get nostalgia points from your audience since the story would be taking place in the 90's.

To this day I am still kind of surprised that I have never heard anybody else even suggest this idea.

 

[Biek Fowler]

When I was a kid I always thought a really great idea for a midquel or spinoff would be a movie showing what happened on Site B in between Jurassic Park and The Lost World: Jurassic Park, when the Isla Sorna facilities were knocked out by Hurricane Clarissa and the dinosaurs were left to roam free. There's bound to be another secret or a survivor story or two that took place there.

That sounds like a great idea! Sorna has a wider variety of carnivores so the it would be interesting to see how each animal finds a niche. It would also be interesting to see how that ecosystem gets wreaked by the introduction of two larger theropods. Also they could show some animals that haven't been seen in the films yet, like Microceratus and Edmontosaurus.

 

[Dom Cruise]

When I was a kid I always thought a really great idea for a midquel or spinoff would be a movie showing what happened on Site B in between Jurassic Park and The Lost World: Jurassic Park, when the Isla Sorna facilities were knocked out by Hurricane Clarissa and the dinosaurs were left to roam free. There's bound to be another secret or a survivor story or two that took place there.

You could also get nostalgia points from your audience since the story would be taking place in the 90's.

To this day I am still kind of surprised that I have never heard anybody else even suggest this idea.

That's not bad, but I think my midquel film set on Nublar in the 90s has more potential.

We could see more areas of the original Jurassic Park not seen in the movie but seen in the novel, like the hotel complex or stuff like a geothermal power plant or amusement park like in the Telltale game.

And the shaving cream can is a perfect MacGuffin, in fact I feel like it was what was meant to be the sequel hook originally, before they decided to go in a different direction, but whatever happened to it? Certainly BioSyn (the company Dodgson was working for) wouldn't give up that easily, would they? Certainly they had to have some Plan B in case Nedry didn't show up, right?

 

[Dom Cruise]

Apologies for the double post, but has anyone ever noticed that Jurassic Park serves as a perfect metaphor for the modern world itself?

The 1990s was a time rife with potential, it really felt like humanity was on the verge of something glorious, but it all ended in disaster as we entered the 21st century, because reality is chaotic and can't be easily boiled down by corporations into something you can slap on a plastic lunch box and sell, that's chaos theory!

And it's all about the dangers of technology, look at the unmitigated disaster social media has been for society, the evil forces it unleashed, reality is a real life Jurassic Park scenario of technology allowing chaos to run amok.

I think of Ian Malcolm's quote of "you were so preoccupied with whether you could do something you never stopped to ask the question whether you should" which is a question your Facebooks and Twitters should have asked.

Michael Crichton was a dude highly critical of the modern world, the Jurassic Park novel even have a passage where Ian Malcolm muses that primitive man had it comparatively easier than modern man, since so long as you had food you could do whatever the hell you wanted, sleep as much as you wanted, you weren't locked into a strict 9 to 5 work schedule.

The more time goes on the more it seems like Michael Crichton was right, I wish he was still with us, his input on the modern world would be fascinating.

But of course this is an old concept, it all goes back to the myth of Icarus flying too close to the sun with his man made wings.