❄️ Snowflake Jack Monroe / Melissa "Mel" Hadjicostas / Jack Xatzinikolas / @BootstrapCook - Spaghetti hoop rinser who wants to live like Common People, the face of poverty in Britain, literally can't lie

[Legal Gengar]

She must be absolutely shitting herself about what’s going to come out about her financial situation if she’s doing all this.

Yes. She was quite adamant that she would stop me seeing the financial documents.

God, it would be fucking incredible to see her get slapped with a libel/defamation charge after how long she's crowed about the Katie Hopkins thing. (I am neither advocating nor expecting for this to happen, just enjoying the thought.)

It would be a shame.

Just remember if you do go the legal route, don't forget to crowdfund a load of money directly to your paypal, then not actually sue, and then refuse to answer questions about it...

Thanks for the advice, @East_Clintwood, I'll be sure to do that. If I did raise money to sue, it would be done through CrowdJustice or something like that.

While I 100% understand why you personally don't see any humour in it, and are rightfully taking it seriously, I personally now have this mental image of Jack chasing you round the court with a handful of banknotes desperately trying to make you take them, possibly with some yakkety sax in the background.

The mental image of that is rather amusing, although I am ... anxious about the hearing now. I don't know what to expect from her any more, so I'm taking appropriate steps (as best I can) to mitigate any risk.

One thing you can do though, is report her to Patreon for malicious doxxing: click the link at the bottom of this article https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115004124003-Why-Doxing-Is-Not-Allowed-on-Patreon and use the archived doxxing tweet as evidence. It would be a shame if her main source of passive income were cut off.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

She said to me on the phone that she was prepared to ambush me at court and force me to take cash before the hearing, to prevent it from happening.

then ended up threatening me to take payment and end the case before the hearing. She also said I "won't get what you want from this" as she has no intention of providing the financial documents (PayPal and Patreon) that the court order demands.

lmao, not surprising but still lmao

Thanks for proving you were deliberately refusing to give a refund in the first place, Jack!

 

[CrossedTubes]

@Legal Gengar being quiet ahead of the hearing on legal advice - good call.




All the best ahead of the hearing. Maybe there's a court back entrance you could use to avoid being pelted with tenners on your way in. I know when I had to give evidence once, they let me come in a different way so I didn't have to come face to face with the defendant.

 

[Legal Gengar]

Thank you kindly @CrossedTubes. I am afraid I am no longer able to contribute to this thread until after the hearing. Good bye, and thank you.

 

[CaptainRockall]

Best of luck, Legal Genger!

Having seen that a Judge recently ordered Carole Cadwalladr to pay Arron Banks, despite Cadwalladr being a 'Journalist' and Banks as 'evil Mr. Right-Wing Man', this is somewhat of a precedent set.

Judges should be concerned with the law first and not politics.

 

[Geranium]

She’s gone private on Twitter:

 

[CrossedTubes]

It's today! Hearing at 14:00 local time, so kicking off in about an hour.

Imagining Gengar assuming ghost form to slip in unmolested. I bet JM phones in sick.

 

[Geranium]

I bet JM phones in sick.

I don't think she even bothered to phone in:

@LegalGengar, tweet 1668979213674708996 (archive)

Legal Gengar (@LegalGengar) · Jun 14, 2023 · 1:50 PM UTC
Today, I attended the court hearing at Southend County Court. Ms Monroe did not attend.
The matter will be put before a Judge for further directions and sanctions.

To Mx Jack Monroe,

You must obey this order. If you do not, you may be sent to prison for contempt of court.

Big middle-class "The rules don't apply to me" vibes from Mx Munroe.

 

[CrossedTubes]

No advance notice, emailed court at 2pm claiming harassment.

Genuinely surprised she's gone this route. A 'muh anxiety' sick note would've given her plenty of time to throw tenners and try to avoid the financial disclosure. She appears to think the justice system is Twitter, where if you just yell something often enough to enough followers, it becomes defacto true.

I feel like the judge isn't going to be impressed with this.

Suppose you're summoned to attend court. If you are afraid, vulnerable or feel the opposing party is hostile, justifiably or not, you contact the court well in advance so they can make arrangements for your comfort and safety. In my experience, they are extremely accommodating and well-versed in difficult and emotive situations - but have little patience with liars and time wasters. You don't drop them an email on the day of hearing, at the time of hearing, alleging nebulous harassment therefore can't go.

Especially since the only party in this claim who's been engaged in harassing behaviour - releasing privileged information - is JM.

 

[AssignedEva]

I feel like the judge isn't going to be impressed with this.

Not to mention this isn't going to be the first time the Judge will have heard that someone getting chased for money they owe has claimed the person chasing them for the money is "harassing" them.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

Genuinely surprised she's gone this route.

me too, she can't claim ignorance of how courts work in general, given the katie hopkins stuff.

its the absolutely most self destructive thing she could have done. i assume she's pulled similar in the past for things that aren't a court order to attend and had an "oh poor you" responses but she's not going to get that here. she could have not attended and said nothing, but instead she has gone out of her way to piss the court off.

over a fucking tenner. like seriously the pettiness is unbelievable. the entire saga is enlightening regarding her psyche.

GBH victims and similar can stand up in court facing their attackers and reliving intenely traumatic events, but Jack can't face the mean man who wanted his tenner back.

OT but i browsed the tattle ahead of the hearing today, are we the hellsite? poor delicate flowers doing the exact same thing as us but more poorly executed.

 

[AssignedEva]

OT but i browsed the tattle ahead of the hearing today, are we the hellsite? poor delicate flowers doing the exact same thing as us but more poorly executed.

Yes. LegalGengar posted on there for a bit, but their weird board culture drove him off and now they seethe a little about him because he didn't follow their special Jack Monroe thread rules. It's a strange Brit gossip place (like Mumsnet on tramadol), although I did like following the Philip Schofield threads because we didn't have one here and they are undeniably good at doing digging on people they dislike.

 

[Legal Gengar]

Yes. LegalGengar posted on there for a bit, but their weird board culture drove him off and now they seethe a little about him because he didn't follow their special Jack Monroe thread rules. It's a strange Brit gossip place (like Mumsnet on tramadol), although I did like following the Philip Schofield threads because we didn't have one here and they are undeniably good at doing digging on people they dislike.

No, that isn't true - I've never posted on Tattle, I don't have an account on there.

 

[AssignedEva]

No, that isn't true - I've never posted on Tattle, I don't have an account on there.

Ah, maybe that's why they shit the bed at you then. I know they don't like you.
I'm assuming you can't share any more info than you already have via twitter, but we're all ears!

 

[Legal Gengar]

Ah, maybe that's why they shit the bed at you then. I know they don't like you.
I'm assuming you can't share any more info than you already have via twitter, but we're all ears!

You and everyone else. I refer to the Tweet: https://twitter.com/LegalGengar/status/1669087375497076738

I have sent my statement to the judge. I have been told that the rest is for the court to handle now. I have nothing else to say until the court contact me about whatever happens next. Thanks for all the support.

 

[Madonna_Claws]

Disappointed but not surprised Jack didn't turn up today. God she's such an up herself entitled cunt. Still, more fun and games to come.

Legal Gengar - were you planning to use Shadow Ball or () Lick? Spite and Payback would be more appropriate I guess...

"The Hellsite" referred to on Tattle is usually Twitter. This here place isn't allowed to be named or even hinted at - I got a post deleted for referring to it as the "Antipodean Agricultural Produce site"

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Court is literally the safest place to be with someone "harassing" you because they can't do anything. Not only is there actual protective people but their every incentive should be not to make their case worse off. (WARNING: Incentive structure does not apply to lolcows.)

 

[Madonna_Claws]

Bollocks. The usual DARVO bullshit. Fuck off Jack, you lying grifting cunt.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

Bollocks. The usual DARVO bullshit. Fuck off Jack, you lying grifting cunt.

well if she has the reciepts she should have enjoyed presenting them on her day in court. along with the documented evidence of harrassment so severe she's had to leave her home on police advice. i wonder how her lawyers feel about these tweets.

in other news my elderly cat who finds any jumping difficult just made it up to sit beside me and told me she has receipts of Jack living in a mansion and being a millionare. pretty compelling evidence if we're applying the same standards Jack wants us to apply to her tweets.

 

[Legal Gengar]

I can't say anything now, but when this is all over, I do want to share the events from my perspective -- evidenced with the documents, screenshots, etc. I've collected.