Is Suicide selfish?

[ForumsAreForAutists]

Yes. But many things people do are selfish acts when you really break it down. Complete selflessness is rare... Living through intense pain just so a few others aren't upset isn't something most people actually in that situation are willing to do.

And what about suicide to escape pain from, say, terminal illness?

There are quite a few people on Earth who would be better off dead.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Depends on your situation.

 

[Hui]

Is it not selfish to ask others to live so that you may be happy they are "around"? Your life is yours at the end of the day but at least pay off your funeral first ok. Or cremation.

 

[Joan Nyan]

Probably, but once you've done it you're not around to hear people call you selfish, so idk why it should bother you. It's not like you'll have to live with the shame or regret of having killed yourself. Just do it faggot.

 

[AnOminous]

There are quite a few people on Earth who would be better off dead.

There are way more people the world would be better without. Unfortunately, those never do it.

 

[bbpoison]

I don't even understand what the question means anymore.

 

[Bassomatic]

Depends on a lot of factors. I don't like questions like this as it broad strokes a case by case. There are families who'd drop a person for a nickel and others who'd sell the shirt off back for another hour of someone even if doped up and comatose.

I think the end of life needs to be talked about to those you love and everyone should have right to end it regardless who and how people feel, because it's your life end of the day. But selfish, I don't think can ever put a line to where it is selfish or not. Case by case only, so something we can't regulate, so by default not

 

[Thiletonomics]

For me, in addition to people committing suicide to get away from their commitments, i.e. to a family or job, the most selfish form of suicide is when that person's suicide act actually affects other people, the most extreme example being "suicide by pilot" incidents, where a pilot decides to off him or herself by crashing a plane on purpose, killing all or most of the passengers as well, as well as killing people not in the aircraft in the crash.

I also find it selfish when someone makes a big deal that they're going to kill themselves, just for attention seeking, and not in the cases where it's a legitimate cry for help.

 

[Bassomatic]

Nothing personal as odd as it sounds KF is a place to debate like adults. I think a forced or group suicide is wrong like what you mentioned or the "popular" suicide by cop.

If ending your life is your choice, it's gross to add others in. There's so much debate to it solo let alone putting or hurting others at risk.

 

[Pikimon]

If someone useless and dumb commits suicide then I don't see the harm

 

[AnOminous]

If someone useless and dumb commits suicide then I don't see the harm

Thing is nobody who really should kill themselves ever does.

 

[Pikimon]

Thing is nobody who really should kill themselves ever does.

@Michel

 

[Hui]

He can't even use chat with us anymore. Don't be mean.

 

[Calamity Jane]

To me, this can never be as straightforward as a yes or no question.
Somebody taking their own life is just such a... Complex and tragic occurrence.

Although I am of the belief that doctor-assisted suicide for the terminally ill and suffering is justifiable under the right circumstances, and that those people just need to be put to rest should they want it; If it's inhumane to let a pet or livestock suffer, how is it morally right to let a terminally ill, dying, and suffering human who wants to die live?

I believe that all if not most suicides are preventable.

 

[bbpoison]

SomeBODY once told me...it's all suicide.

 

[Michel]

@Michel

I didn't kill myself, it was murder.

 

[OtterParty]

 

[Zebedee]

Okay, even disregarding the "few weeks" bit (people can take a lot longer to process grief, but I'll concede it), what's a good reason to kill yourself? I can't think of one. To what degree should your life suck before it becomes reasonable? Poverty? The loss of friends or loved ones? Feeling lonely or isolated? Never amounting to anything?

Yeah, death isn't the end of things. You can move on, but so can the people killing themselves. Most of the reasons people kill themselves are trivial, not permanent, or fixable. I'm not even saying easily fixable, but fixable. If there's a way out that doesn't involve doing a flip, why not do that instead? Isn't that infinitely less selfish?

Nihilists believe everything is pointless, so it wouldn't matter from their point of view. Many nihilists would believe that their deaths would have no impact at all and so in their case why not? You can't fix a viewpoint easily.

 

[Pikimon]

I didn't kill myself, it was murder.

I change my mind I want @Oglooger to kill himself instead

 

[AnOminous]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8hA0raA0LNE

If that guy killed himself, it would be an act of generosity.