/horror/ general megathread - Let's talk about movies and shit.

[Nameless One]

It's a stolen plot from Tales From they Crypt / Twilight Zone, stretched out over a series of TikTok skits. It's absolute dogshit, and it gets traction because zoomers are obsessed with exaggerated facial expressions. Every behind the scenes clip I saw get astroturfed onto my social media feed was them discussing the girl making faces. It is absolutely gay and pathetic, the state of modern horror. Just complete and utter "slop" as the kids say.

"Elevated Horror" did more damage to horror films than Twilight did to vampires.

It was okay. But I agree.

I recommend the original Hellraiser comics.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

My biggest problem with Backrooms is that it feels like you need to have done homework to watch it.

Yeah if you’ve watched all those videos and you know the lore and shit you probably really appreciated it, but the thing is that it’s not clear at all what you’re supposed to take away from the movie if you’re just watching the movie without any context clues. Like, at the end, what happened to her? Is she dead? Why is she a doll? Why are some people a doll? Why isn the room not the same room?

It’s clear that there are answers and there’s a ~universe~ to this shit and what not, but you can’t make a movie that works on vibes when there’s actually shit going on underneath that requires you to do homework to make sense of it. It’s either standalone or it’s not. And it’s not.

 

[AnOminous]

Anyone watched I, Zombie? I am NOT recommending it, it is an objectively terrible movie. Still, anyone have any opinions about it? (I mean other than THAT scene. You know the one I mean.)

 

[scallion]

what happened to her? Is she dead? Why is she a doll? Why are some people a doll? Why isn the room not the same room?

The room with the chair that Clark stumbles into early on that looks like the commercial they filmed as well as the camera floating down through the floor as the room degrades sequence were supposed to tip you off that the backrooms just takes things that happen in the real world and mimics them the best it can.
Granted, I have been a watcher of Kane's stuff for a while so I'm not sure how much of that is reliant on my previous viewing. But it really felt like it should have had more input during production from groups entirely unfamiliar with his content.

 

[JeffreyMaxwell]

It was okay. But I agree.

I recommend the original Hellraiser comics.

I don't know, it all just seems like those Dev Lemons and MollyMoon skits. It blows my mind how gentrified horror has become by theater kids and TikTok.

I wouldn't even notice if there was more variety available, but A24 and "elevated horror" basically cucked almost all of horror into trauma porn. Zooming in on people's faces while they hyperventilate or make annoying smiles isn't "horror," it's melodramatic trash. "This movie is an allegory about raising an autistic son as a single mother!" Cool, make a fucking Lifetime movie, then.

In fact, that is what all these new horror movies are...Lifetime for zoomers.

 

[Nameless One]

I don't know, it all just seems like those Dev Lemons and MollyMoon skits. It blows my mind how gentrified horror has become by theater kids and TikTok.

I wouldn't even notice if there was more variety available, but A24 and "elevated horror" basically cucked almost all of horror into trauma porn. Zooming in on people's faces while they hyperventilate or make annoying smiles isn't "horror," it's melodramatic trash. "This movie is an allegory about raising an autistic son as a single mother!" Cool, make a fucking Lifetime movie, then.

In fact, that is what all these new horror movies are...Lifetime for zoomers.

I recommend the original four Silent Hill games for healing. I have pretty high standards for horror too. I don't think Obsession was that bad but it could have expanded on some things.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

The room with the chair that Clark stumbles into early on that looks like the commercial they filmed as well as the camera floating down through the floor as the room degrades sequence were supposed to tip you off that the backrooms just takes things that happen in the real world and mimics them the best it can.
Granted, I have been a watcher of Kane's stuff for a while so I'm not sure how much of that is reliant on my previous viewing. But it really felt like it should have had more input during production from groups entirely unfamiliar with his content.

Yeah the issue with what you’re saying is that no, it does not tip us off about that at all. I don’t know anyone who came in cold and had a fucking clue what the backrooms were or what you just described. It’s just ~spooky vibes~ and shit.

 

[AbbaZabba]

Obsession was very enjoyable in the theater, but I doubt it will have much in the way of a long-remembered legacy. I was really put off by how "centered" everything seemed to be in every shot, like it was being framed for a phone pan and scan in the future. That goes for Backrooms as well.

Maybe I've just watched too much Italian horror slop too recently...

 

[Big Miss Steak]

The room with the chair that Clark stumbles into early on that looks like the commercial they filmed as well as the camera floating down through the floor as the room degrades sequence were supposed to tip you off that the backrooms just takes things that happen in the real world and mimics them the best it can.
Granted, I have been a watcher of Kane's stuff for a while so I'm not sure how much of that is reliant on my previous viewing. But it really felt like it should have had more input during production from groups entirely unfamiliar with his content.

Yeah the issue with what you’re saying is that no, it does not tip us off about that at all. I don’t know anyone who came in cold and had a fucking clue what the backrooms were or what you just described. It’s just ~spooky vibes~ and shit.

I came in knowing nothing about the backrooms apart from that it was an internet meme about some alternate, liminal dimension. I was able to understand that it is an amalgamation of the malformed memories of those who entered it. IIRC the therapist talks about how memory is never totally accurate early in the movie, foreshadowing this concept. The lady at the end is an imitation of the therapist and the chair she was interrogated in because she was almost certainly not allowed to go back home and was forced/recruited into working for the scientists to continue exploring and studying the backrooms. Therefore her memories are populating the place.

This is all without getting into the fact that at the end of the movie, the scientist interrogating her literally explains that the backrooms is an alternate dimension that functions like a living neural network or echo chamber for human memories. I will be gracious and assume you were napping, peeing, or getting popcorn at that moment.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Yeah obviously by that point, he fills in blanks, but it still doesn’t retroactively explain shit that happened or why they happened that way, and it sure as fuck explain what the fuck happened to her at the end, either.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Apparently there was attempted studio meddling which is funny



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[Internet War Criminal]

Well, to be fair, he also seems like he’s retarded and he doesn’t understand his own movie. He said that the One Wish Willow is not actually cursed and that Bear just made an evil wish. Well, nigga, how the fuck do you explain him calling the number at the back and hearing the real Nikki just fucking screaming over and over again? She was possessed, someone took over her body, and did all kinds of crazy shit. He just said he wanted her to love him more than anyone else in the world, how does that translate to shitting herself, serving him his cat, and murdering people?

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Yeah obviously by that point, he fills in blanks, but it still doesn’t retroactively explain shit that happened or why they happened that way, and it sure as fuck explain what the fuck happened to her at the end, either.

As I said in my post, we know the backrooms makes poor copies of things based on the memories of people who enter it. We know the scientist was hemming and hawwing when she asked if she would be allowed to leave. Knowing this, we can easily surmise that the woman at the end is a copy of the therapist, not the therapist herself, and we can surmise that the backrooms has a memory of what she was wearing and where she was sitting during the interrogation because she has visited the backrooms since the interrogation.

What else are you confused on?

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Is she alive? Is she dead? She was taken out of the backrooms at the end. So how is the copy of herself in that interrogation room there? They sent her back in? the backrooms now suddenly don’t need you to be there to create memories you’ve made after you left?

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Is she alive? Is she dead? She was taken out of the backrooms at the end. So how is the copy of herself in that interrogation room there? They sent her back in? the backrooms now suddenly don’t need you to be there to create memories you’ve made after you left?

Spoiler

She is presumably still alive and has made further visits to the backrooms after her interrogation at the command of the scientists. We know this because the backrooms has her memories (warped) of her interrogation, which did not take place in the backrooms.

Copies are retained in the backrooms even after the person leaves or dies. Clark is killed by the pirate monster (his memory) but it continues to chase Mary the therapist. The entire place is a combination of various people's memories. There's no reason to think that you have to currently be there for it to retain your memories.

 

[Aib Ld]

Well, to be fair, he also seems like he’s retarded and he doesn’t understand his own movie.

Most modern movies get ruined over time by the director answering more and more stupid questions that contradict itself because people want lore, not the movie itself. Or some related like cases of Star Wars or Harry Potter, making up random stuff nobody asked for and/or an attempt to stay relevant.

 

[Nameless One]

The Bear actor is gay and somehow I knew.

 

[Alaska20k]

The Bear actor is gay and somehow I knew.

You’re telling me that there Hollywood actin’ man is gay!?

 

[Exterminatus]

Well, to be fair, he also seems like he’s retarded and he doesn’t understand his own movie. He said that the One Wish Willow is not actually cursed and that Bear just made an evil wish. Well, nigga, how the fuck do you explain him calling the number at the back and hearing the real Nikki just fucking screaming over and over again? She was possessed, someone took over her body, and did all kinds of crazy shit. He just said he wanted her to love him more than anyone else in the world, how does that translate to shitting herself, serving him his cat, and murdering people?

Spoiler

My running theory is that it's because of the way he phrased the wish, when he said that it created this "alternate Nikki" that loved him more than anything or anyone else, and of course that's going to make her hyper possessive of him, so even the dead cat would get in the way of his affection for her, if it had been alive I suspect she would've killed it for the same reason. Sarah obviously liked Bear even though he didn't return her feelings, at least until later in the movie before Nikki crushes her skull in jealous rage. The other reason I think this way is because Ian wished for a billion dollars and the wish didn't seem to backfire on him, he only died after showing up at Bear's house seemingly of his own choice.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Spoiler

My running theory is that it's because of the way he phrased the wish, when he said that it created this "alternate Nikki" that loved him more than anything or anyone else, and of course that's going to make her hyper possessive of him, so even the dead cat would get in the way of his affection for her, if it had been alive I suspect she would've killed it for the same reason. Sarah obviously liked Bear even though he didn't return her feelings, at least until later in the movie before Nikki crushes her skull in jealous rage. The other reason I think this way is because Ian wished for a billion dollars and the wish didn't seem to backfire on him, he only died after showing up at Bear's house seemingly of his own choice.

No, fuck that.

Again, nigga, that phone call. All the warnings in the back. He didn’t wish for a different Nikki, he wished for Nikki to love him more than anyone in the world. And here’s the thing:

Everyone, by definition, has someone they love more than anyone else in the world.

Could be your wife, your son or daughter, your parents, your best friend, Morrissey, who the fuck knows. And yet, 99.99% of people can love someone more than anyone else in the world without staying in place shitting themselves, cooking a cat, and murdering other people.

And don’t give me that bullshit of ‘Oh, because of how he phrased it, it meant that she loves him more than anyone loves anyone else in the world. That’s not what he asked for. He asked for her specifically to love him specifically more than anyone else in the world. If that One Wish Willow wasn’t cursed or some shit, it should basically just have meant that whoever she loved the most in her life, she now loved him even more than that person.

That movie entirely breaks if the One Wish Willow isn’t cursed and Nikki isn’t possessed by something.