🌟 Internet Famous hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

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Was looking more into this Zoom pandemic comedy group on YT with Careesi appearances.

It is VERY tiny. 27 subs, a little over 1k lifetime views. Created Sept 27th, 2020. Streamed these Zoom comedy hangouts among friends roughly every 2 weeks from Oct 2nd, 2020 to June 4th, 2021.

Last episode talks about shutting down the Zoom show to try to go back to performing live because California clubs were open again.

The host, Adrianna McCain, seems moderately leftist. She did some news segments in some of the episodes I reviewed. They seem more annoyed that Gavin Newsom had closed all the clubs and issued stay-at-home orders for Christmas 2020 rather than actually worried about the 'rona or COVID health theater. But there were also segments talking about Chris Christie conceding the 2020 election to Biden, talk about "Republicans", but nothing too unhinged.

The YT view counts are in single digits to low double, including the recent renewed interest. These were more like Zoom hangouts between comedian friends with a few mentions of parents also listening. A few of the "headliners" were fellow comedians who interacted with the old Careesi X account like Natasha Vinik and Matt Eddy.

The last appearance that Careesi was listed in the description was the Dec 18th, 2020 Zoom Christmas party that was linked on the r/Hoemath subreddit with him talking about shaving his head in the intro.



Here's the 10 minute set on Dec 18th, 2020, Careesi's last Zoom comedy appearance with this group

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- They already have him labeled as "knife guy"
- He attends their Xmas party, then tells them he hates absolutely everything about the holiday other than some esoteric concept of Jesus/the Light rising. But he's not Christian.
- He briefly does a demo of the meaning of the occult symbols on his background apartment walls


- The host's dad got bored during Careesi's set to go take a shower
- wrt the Peanuts Christmas, Careesi identifies with Charlie Brown because he's miserable & "everyone shits on him". Justin is what happens when Charlie Brown is "sick of your shit".
- Host emcee in his outro calls him an "interesting fella"
- Much later, another female performer mentions they are late because they had a date earlier in the evening. Careesi can be heard shouting from the audience "I wish".

- "I wish I had something to stab..."

- Host: Are you a fan of Xmas or are you the Grinch?

- JC - "I appreciate the celebration of the rising light of Christ & nothing else."
- "I eschew consumerism."
- Talks about how he'd rather convert to the Amish, but would miss his phone.

Female Host: Your feelings towards the rise of Christ?
Male Host: What about your happiest Xmas memory?
JC: (re: happy memories) That's worse (as a happy Xmas party topic).

JC: Jesus is a Apollonian deity - male, sun-centered, oriented to the East
*Shows off occult red squares/circles on his apartment walls and explains their symbolism*
- was raised Christian, but now only appreciates the "esoteric meaning of it"
- hates Xmas songs, Mariah Carey
- not a big fan of the Grinch either
- has nothing good to say about Xmas, only wants "the sun to come up again"
- asked about Muppets Xmas, Careesi claims to have never seen a Muppets episode
- knows what Peanuts is, identifies most with Charlie Brown
- cuz Charlie Brown is bald, miserable, asks "Why can't everything be better?" then everyone shits on him. "That's my life."
- Careesi - "I'm what happens when Charlie Brown is sick of your shit"
- Careesi thinks main meaning of Xmas is the "rising of life energy, Qi/Chi as it's known all over the world"

- Careesi eventually makes an analogy between the different books/chapters of the New Testament in their portrayals of Jesus and the different iterations and reboots of Batman

- "I hate Xmas, but I can talk about how I hate it, that's fun."

- Shifted topics that he dated someone who later moved to Hawaii after their breakup, was broke, ate anthill eggs for sustenance, said they were "OK".

- Set wraps up, host is hesitant to wish him a Happy Holidays.
- Careesi agrees to have A Christmas, not necessarily a happy one.
- "I'll be alive for all of it", probably.

Host: "You are an interesting fella".
 
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It is no wonder why he is single. He gives that look, like he'd wear your skin.
Hello,

Long time lurker, this image triggered a memory which I think might be another smoking gun so I decided to make an account.

I dont actually care about hoe math whatsoever or wish him any ill will, I just find this all amusing.

In self maximise Ep 1 at 10:20 he shows off the exact same necklace mr careesi is wearing here, mole placement lines up too.

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No disrespect to our valiant phonebooking hero Spooky, but it doesn't appear as though our champion is well informed on hoe_math lore, has read the entire thread, is an obsessed fan or has even reviewed most of the spoils of their own phonebooking.

5% chance it's his boomer mother a-logging him as best she can.

Would be pretty hard to just stumble upon his failed, localist of local comedy acts on YT and the hoe_math account. Has to be someone who knows him from irl, some Judas or just someone on the periphery that he couldn't stop blabbing to.

The outting should hasten his final meltdown. I mean holy shit if he had to get past any basic HR screening as a seething baldcel drawfag not even a McDonalds in Detroit could hire him even if they wanted to.
 
5% chance it's his boomer mother a-logging him as best she can.
I really don’t think it is. That was my initial thought as well, but I’ve spoken privately with spooky and he denied knowing HM or being a jilted lover or anything. He didn’t tell me anything about how he made the ID. I don’t think he’ll ever disclose that or that he wants any notoriety from this. Definitely didn’t read like talking with a boomer though, lol.
 
according to his last video, he went from an 8 to a 7 in looks. Assuming the absolute best for his pre covid hair, it sounds and looks more like he went from a 7 to a 5.

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This is the only contemporary photo we have of him from the 2015 period that we have dated AFAIK.

This is his "peak" around 30 that he laments endlessly about and claims he was an 8 suddenly because he hit the gym at 24, started getting tons of unsolicited attention constantly from women that he now longs for again, added another 100 kills, broke up 17 relationships over as a homewrecker, etc.

His pre-COVID hair certainly isn't saving him and vaulting him to Chadlite status.

I'm actually personally surprised that the 2020-2025 version of hoe_math isn't better looking in the end after the leak. But at least the middle-aged one has the physique of a gym bro. I think the bald phenotype at least has some potential, as opposed to whatever this bookish younger Lyft driver version was.

Remember, hoe_math's own lore is that he was crushing it out there from 24 to 37 because he was beautiful, but couldn't seal the deal because he was poor.

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Spooky_Hoe_Math leaker continues to spam bald leak pics at random Twitter personalities, this time Leonarda Jonie and Alex Jones. Female comedian Jonie was included in hoe_math's personally recommended list of based female Top 10 "Hoe's hoes" a month or so back.

Spooky labels her as Italian like Quirici even thought I'm pretty sure she's Albanian.

I haven't seen any of the bigger-named X personalities actually interact with Spooky or acknowledge the leak. Though there has been some whiteknighting in the replies from the OP fan, gender-neutral version of "Hoe's hoes".

It doesn't seem like the official hoe_math X account has taken any sort of hiatus after all. He's back to his regularly scheduled schizoposting without acknowledgment as of today. I briefly skimmed the top comments of his new posts, but couldn't find any alogs talking about the leak.
 
This is his "peak" around 30 that he laments endlessly about and claims he was an 8 suddenly because he hit the gym at 24, started getting tons of unsolicited attention constantly from women that he now longs for again, added another 100 kills, broke up 17 relationships over as a homewrecker, etc.

His pre-COVID hair certainly isn't saving him and vaulting him to Chadlite status.

I'm actually personally surprised that the 2020-2025 version of hoe_math isn't better looking in the end after the leak. But at least the middle-aged one has the physique of a gym bro. I think the bald phenotype at least has some potential, as opposed to whatever this bookish younger Lyft driver version was.

Remember, hoe_math's own lore is that he was crushing it out there from 24 to 37 because he was beautiful, but couldn't seal the deal because he was poor.

I don't know why he's so intriguing, most red pillers are pretty boring and manage themselves carefully or they are out entirely anyway and say "so what" to the big dox.

He tried fairly hard to be cryptic and anon while compulsively breadcrumbing himself. The constant re-imagining of his own generous autobiography and exaggerations are so Clutser-B. Like he wanted to get caught and punished by some mother figure but all he's going to get is the bald man's ridicule.

Doing 100+ bodies in Cali and homewrecking is pretty hard to believe. Even if they were all latina heavyweights I don't see it and shouldn't really have any effect on the positions he's trying to convey in his schizo videos anyway so why make such a claim. At ~40 years of age too, no less.
 
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hoe_math solicited merchandising graphical art suggestions from his followers today. He also scribbled on his thumbnail because he's paranoid about art thieves.

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He's made 8k on merch. Over what timeframe? Is that good?

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No worries about merch proceeds though. Just a few more tweaks to the SelfMax.AI and he'll finally be a multimillionaire!!!


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There was a hoe_math-themed merch tie?!?!

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I originally thought this guy might've been mocking some of his "machete demos" on his recently discovered 2020 Zoom amateur comedy shows. But more digging suggests it's likely just a naive fan referring to his SwordPilled video.

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Same with this one. I thought the "dago shirt" was the black wife beater from the Zoom comedy leaks as well. But best I call tell is that it was a coincidence.

Not sure what the "bird hand" video was either. There's the "bird test" that he talks about often as a strategy to engage a potential female candidate in a neutral manner by bringing attention to a benign object in their vicinity and assessing their interest in carrying on conversation before making a formal move. Sort of a plausible deniability strategy.


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Some followers used AI to remove hoe_math's DRM scribbles. Still needs some work.
 
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Even if they were all latina heavyweights I don't see it and shouldn't really have any effect on the positions he's trying to convey in his schizo videos anyway so why make such a claim. At ~40 years of age too, no less.
He said he was a sword guy so he likely smashed fat nerd pussy which is much easier to smash than you'd think.



hoe_math solicited merchandising graphical art suggestions from his followers today. He also scribbled on his thumbnail because he's paranoid about art thieves.
I'm not on the hoe math level for I have no idea what this shirt is about.
 
He's made 8k on merch. Over what timeframe? Is that good?

Please god tell me he's handling merch himself Chris Chan style.

He said he was a sword guy so he likely smashed fat nerd pussy which is much easier to smash than you'd think.

IDK if you could be tearing up triple digit fat nerd pussy with a lyft gig and edged weapons from a mall half the internet would have moved to wherever in Cali this is. Myself included.
 
It's his view on what economical life is like for men vs women. He has to pay for her shit, whether he dates her or not.

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To expand a bit, this is a frequent cyclic economic trope in hoe_math's videos.

The basic premise is that government & society keep placing heavier burdens on young men while redistributing wealth to women through DEI, the social safety net and girlboss jobs so they can frivolously spend their independent monies on lattes and yoga pants.

The whole "I have my own money, I don't need no man". But also hypergamy and the female nature means that more women succeeding in life, academia and the workforce still desire a man who makes more than them, has more status than them, can take care of them financially, etc.

hoe_math argues it's a positive feedback loop: men are struggling, get discriminated against > government steals their money and redistributes it to women > creates more strong, independent womyn who don't need no man and single mother welfare queens with daddy government > strong, independent womyn still psychologically and evolutionarily still wants rich Chad that is more successful and higher status than her due to hypergamy > rich Chads are in ever decreasing supply because of DEI anti-male discrimination and government wealth redistribution

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New hoe_math video drop. It had been a few weeks since his last release. Still no acknowledgment of the leak.
Skimmed the comments, don't see any leak alogs either.
Pretty standard old OG Tiktok format - start with a few clips of a dangerhair complaining about dating & men, finish with a longer rant about the machinations of the hoe math.



2:28
"I have heard guys tell their girlfriends "You are really cool & I really like you BUT...
I don't want my friends to see me with you until you lose weight" & therefore become more valuable.



3:02
PURITY - Loyalty * History * Baggage * Modesty * Innocence * Exclusive * Kids * Guy "friends"
hoe_math: Has never had a hard time finding women that:
- Look good enough (Looks)
- Are fun to be around (Personality)
- Also never had a very hard time finding both in the same person
BUT, he's always had a VERY hard time finding women that were not "Otherwise Occupied" (AKA PURE)



4:16
- hoe_math got old, aged out of the apps, thought he was "shadowbanned" from Bumble
- claims he used to match with 50% of his swipes (average rate for men is supposedly 2%)



5:38
- hoe_math with some projection of hypothetical examples of women "dropping dirt" on to his heart after he got attached
- "I used to be a stripper"
- "I slept with 400 people"
- "I had a threesome 2 days before I met you"
- hoe_math in response - "Now I have to get rid of you"
- also, somehow hoe_math's Homewrecker Odometer has clicked over to 18 from 17 in less than a week from his appearance a few days ago with Pearl


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Lastly, he humblebragged about his channel growth, 30k in the last month. He has added something like 60-70k YT subs since the thread was created 4 months ago.
 
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hoe_math argues it's a positive feedback loop: men are struggling, get discriminated against > government steals their money and redistributes it to women > creates more strong, independent womyn who don't need no man and single mother welfare queens with daddy government > strong, independent womyn still psychologically and evolutionarily still wants rich Chad that is more successful and higher status than her due to hypergamy > rich Chads are in ever decreasing supply because of DEI anti-male discrimination and government wealth redistribution
Doesn't he say the loop is:

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Spooky_Hoe_Math was apparently tweeting up a storm during KF's scheduled server downtime yesterday.

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Spooky had their first minor alog breakthrough with the leak since the initial phonebooking. They were able to get Diane Yap's attention, being the first minor celeb to comment on the leak publicly AFAICT.
Spooky_Hoe_Math: [sic] He is fascinating because he former Facebook account proves he has lied about pretty much everything, and was an insecure vaguely liberal guy before he rebranded. Justin Careesi.

Not sure if Spooky is simply mistaken here or if there's more FB phonebook gold that we haven't officially uncovered at KF.
There's no FB content that I'm aware of re: Careesi other than the zen99 tax contractor Lyft driver promo from 2015 and some 2018-2022 comedy marquees with his name on them. The FB account linked to Careesi's old Twitter profile and 2019-2022 comedian social media are gone.

I barely know anything about Diane Yap, but I did document hoe_math feuding with her on X back in March

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Spooky also posted a new screenshot of COVID-vintage Careesi with the infamous collar mole on his chest.
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Some of his alogs are starting to doubt his manwhore credentials.
Rando: So he wasn’t a player either ?
Spooky: He was bitterly whining about his love life and going on very regional podcasts to bitch about not having anyone on Christmas eve, as well as having flesh urges, but he did show us his sword collection. Also everyone in that podcast is someone our current boy would seethe about.
Some good analysis by Spooky here. 2025 hoe_math would find the entire cast of the Okay, So Like SF Zoom comedy guild insufferable, even if a lot of the bits from his comedy act aren't that far from his current tropes (blasphemy about Jesus, veiled threats of violence, woe is me dating bitching, etc.). His open letter wall-of-text contemporary X schizoposting is specifically targeted at these same quirky chungus SF lib comedians that he used to share a stage or screen with.

Also, this gives us proof that Spooky is reading the thread, given references to my synopsis of Justin's 2020 Christmas Zoom set and including in his tweet a screenshot I took of his machete demo.

Hi Spooky! Thanks for breaking this thing wide open and finally giving us some new content to dissect.


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Rando: It sounds like not only is he not a player, but it sounds like he also doesn't just crush a lot either.
Spooky: Crushing depression. Also I will say he crushed the song he was playing in this video. He was also crushing the proper mask procedures, despite being alone and indoors.

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Rando:...He is fixated on "hypergamy." The guy lives in the SF area with a huge cost of living, and his CV is sketchy at best. The women he met did not want to "level up." They just did not want to be indigent.
Spooky: I do not wish to take things too far and post where he probably lives, that would be disgusting. But it looks decent. He said "a home the way I want it." He is probably expecting a mansion from his incelbuxx and being ungrateful about it.
Some more GeoGuesser with Spooky and interested parties. Again, Spooky as the alog with a heart of gold, not wanting to out his current lease's location financed through his "incelbuxx". Kek.

I'd point out that we still aren't certain of his current location despite the 2018-2022 leak. Most of the addresses in his phonebook point to CT, where he grew up in New England. I don't know CT topography very well, but I don't know if it contains the mountains that he won't shut up about and that he can see from his current kitchen window.

Unless the longing for mountains is simply more misdirection like having Rich Cooper earlier this spring call him "Matt" during an interview to throw trackers off the trail.


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Discussion re: if hoe_math is aware of the ID leak. Some predictions that the ball hasn't even got rolling and the leak will only spread further.

And some concern that the comedian machete demos might actually progress to him going postal.

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Containment is failing. Some of the e-thots are piling on as well.

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@ AlyssaLogic is actually a smaller account than I thought. But she is an orbiter of "Bad" Billy Pratt/@ KILLTOPARTY, who is himself a middle-aged man, partially satirical dating account (though he's been dating a return-to-nature Zoomer e-girl for a few months publicly). Alyssa is in Billy's replies constantly.


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This is Spooky trying to spread the leak among Hoe's hoes. She was profiled in hoe_math's own curated based Top 10 female mutuals post.
Unfortunately Trumper Mrs. B/@ attackdogX blocked Spooky and stayed loyal.

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Spooky ideologically inconsistent with his alogging at times, holding it against the racist misogynist white supremacist that he used to share employment with nons.

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Trying to get another Top 10 Hoe's hoe attention again in Leonarda Jonie, shoehorning in the leak pics into criticism of Sarah Stock being a limited hangout because she likes wetbacks over pajeets in a man-on-the-street "Would you rather?: clip.


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Spooky trying to inform Molymeme about hoe_math's pseudoreligious blasphemy, blending Christian scripture with Greek mythology and Eastern spirituality.


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Spooky_Hoe_Math interested in how many Whatever podcast e-thots hoe_math managed to bed. Likely zero, since he called in remotely and that was all the way back in 2023.
The in-joke here is that Andrew Wilson/TheCrucible/@ paleochristcon/BigPappaFascist is referring to his wife Rachel Wilson/@ Rach4Patriarchy, who apparently has also guested on the show. Wilson is a recurrent guest brought on to mog the slutty panel.

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Rachel Wilson was also one of hoe_math's Top 10 Hoes and is a semi-regular in his replies. There's been no formal collab between Quirisi and Andew or Rachel Wilson, but both sides have expressed interest. hoe_math talked about Andrew reaching out to him privately in the recent past to mentor about being a RW redpill e-celeb. Apparently Andew promised to send hoe_math a better camera for his livestreams, then immediately reneged.

Quirici talked a little bit about his behind-the-scenes interactions with the Wilsons on his Pearl Davis' show guest appearance last week.

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I'm assuming that hoe_math has Spooky blocked directly, so he can only reply to other rando's replies on Quirici's posts.

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Informing another hoe_math mutual, Myron Gaines of Fresh & Fit. hoe_math was their guest earlier this spring.
This is in the context of Lauren Southern on a #MeToo book release junket claiming she was raped while drunk by Andrew Tate .
 
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