🐱 Here's What to Expect From the Firefly Reboot From Disney+ - Wheadon fans on suicide watch for one

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Firefly was canceled too soon. Released in 2002, the series took place in the year 2517. Classified as a space Western drama, the series saw the ensemble cast (lead by Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres, and Alan Tudyk) travelling on the spaceship Serenity in search of new adventures.

It was an undoubtedly popular series, garnering up to 4.7 million viewers per episode. Astonishingly, however, Firefly was canceled before it finished its first season. Only eleven of the fourteen planned episodes were released, leaving the dedicated fans of the show devastated. Petitions, fundraisers, and online forums were created in attempts to save the show from being canceled forever, but these efforts were ultimately in vain.

However, Disney plans to reboot the series as an exclusive for its streaming platform Disney+. Disney had acquired the rights to the franchise after their 2018 acquisition of Fox. Firefly seems like the perfect option to diversify their current line-up for streaming. Here’s what to expect from the reboot.

The Rebooted Firefly Will Have a New Story​


The original Firefly series on Fox was intended for mature audiences. Inara, for example, is explicitly known to be a courtesan on the show. There are also political, social, and economic factors that interrogate the morals and ethics of the characters' world and society. Disney has not confirmed anything about the plot, but there is speculation on how the story will differ. Some routes include picking up right where the series left off and delving into the past of the Malcolm Reynolds (Nathan Fillion) who fought in the civil war against the Alliance. However, it is most likely that Disney will restart the entire series on a more family-friendly note. While Disney achieved a new "first" in Eternals by featuring the first openly gay character and first real sex scene, it’s unlikely that Firefly will do the same. Instead, they might opt for a narrative that would appeal to a more general audience on its streaming platform.

Joss Whedon Will Not Be Involved​


Since Firefly was his vision and dream, many wondered whether or not Joss Whedon would return for the reboot. While Whedon isn't a stranger to creating television properties--Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a much beloved series to this day--it seems that the allegations of workplace harassment against him might be the reason he won't be returning. Indeed, WarnerMedia conducted an investigation,, resulting in swift action from the studio. Whedon then exited the HBO Max series The Nevers, and it’s safe to assume that producers, especially Disney, are cautious about working with him. He has not directed any television shows or movies since leaving The Nevers.

More Details Are Coming​

Disney has largely kept quiet about the Fireflyreboot, but they are planning to create the series. Because of the lack of official information, a release date, cast, and specific details haven't been confirmed. There are several different routes that Disney could spin the plot, and while it is unlikely that the original cast will reprise their roles, perhaps there’s a chance that some of the actors could make a guest appearance.

Firefly has a dedicated fanbase, one that might not be too pleased if Disney changes the tone and plot to be more accessible for younger audiences. However, with Whedon no longer being a part of the decisions, it seems highly unlikely that this will be a continuation of the original story. That said, with the current slate of successful original shows that Disney+ has created so far, there's hope that the original magic created in 2002 will translate after all this time.
 
For all the greatness of Duet and In the Pale Moonlight, I don't think anything in DS9 encapsulated the sheer seething hatred mortal enemies can have like B5's elevator episode did.
"Don't be an idiot. Don't you want to live?"
"Passionately. But I want to see you dead more!"

G'Kar's cry of distress as they're rescued really seals the deal, too.

Pretty much anything involving those two was great. But yeah, seething hatred is just something Trek can't do.


I'm partial to the scene from Dust to Dust where G'Kar is in Londo's head and yells how he'll rip what he wants out of Londo's mind, neutron by neutron, right up to Kosh slapping him in the face with reality.
 
Pretty much anything involving those two was great. But yeah, seething hatred is just something Trek can't do.
You don't even need the two of them together.
"What, you think I'm lying? Open my wrists."
"Centauri don't have major blood vessels in their wrists."
"Of course not. Do you think I'm stupid or something?"
Just let either of those actors chew the scenery and bounce lines off the straighter man in the scene and you get gold.
 
Whedon was a hack. Firefly was good because it was cancelled.
And disney? Rebooting a show about gun-toting rebels that were on the WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY? To memoryhole/change everything? Color me fucking shocked.
 
Firefly was carried entirely by the show's concept. The writing sucked and there are only a few memorable episodes. It was an outlet for sci fi fans at a time when there wasn't much else. Now they've got the mandalorian to coom over so the reboot is entirely pointless.
I liked the writing ("Heart of Gold" was trash) but as a light space western- not Shakespeare (hell, not even Trigun) but it was fine for what it was.

That said, I've compared it to James Dean elsewhere, and I'll repeat that here: it's so fondly remembered because it died young and beautiful, not after years of descending into mediocrity and poz.
Good god, just make something new and well written? The Expanse has shown you can do good, 'gritty' sci fi, with an interesting collection of characters that people almost universally like.
Funny story: I started watching The Expanse recently, and the best way I can describe it is "Firefly, but for grown-ups."

(Also Joss could never write an Amos Burton in a million years.)
That only really became her story after she got wet for the doctor dude.
That was Episode 1, though. The previous mechanic thing was told in flashback. I assume they were planning for the arc to be Simon unwittingly playing hard to get by being so hyper-focused on his sister that he manages to miss the obvious signals she's sending.
 
Push it out the airlock. Without my sweet mama mechanic it can suck vacuum!

Also it was already ruined by trying to cram two seasons into a movie, no real loss.

Ps. OMG there is a lot of shoddily edited bootleg Kaylee porn on duck duck go, you expect that for that overpriced whore Inara but Kaylee is so wholesome looking (even if she is a canonical slut who gets porked by randos in greasy engine rooms).
Ah, Jewel Staite. She’s adorable.
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She was also in Wonderfalls which I enjoyed.
 
I liked the writing ("Heart of Gold" was trash) but as a light space western- not Shakespeare (hell, not even Trigun) but it was fine for what it was.
The first time around I didn't notice it, but trying to rewatch the series was painful. The novelty and the setting did a lot to alleviate the writing. To be fair, it IS sci fi, after all. It's not like the genre is well known for amazing dialogue or artistic merit.
 
I liked the writing ("Heart of Gold" was trash) but as a light space western- not Shakespeare (hell, not even Trigun) but it was fine for what it was.
Always think that sometimes it's OK to just sit back and have fun. As a prof of mine used to be fond of saying: "Dissecting everything is all very well, but at the end you're left with a pile of non functioning parts and goo."

Not every bit of media needs a message, or a moral, or some deep important statement on the human condition. Firefly scratched that particular "sit back and enojy" itch well, so I'm always going to be fond of it.
 
I expect it to suck.

Firefly..worked almost entirely because it was hamstrung from the start. It being..effectively a Miniseries meant that you set the world up, you do a bit of character development then you end it quickly.

The Reaper Origin Story would not have been a "satisfying" answer to a 5 season Mystery box..but it was fine for a 5 episode one.
 
Dude, JMS has already pitched a #woke reboot of Babylon 5.

Wait what?

Good god, just make something new and well written? The Expanse has shown you can do good, 'gritty' sci fi, with an interesting collection of characters that people almost universally like.

The studio's are becoming more and more Risk adverse, they want the inbuilt audiences the old shows have and the money that normally brings with it - they don't want to build a show to be able to sell merch as fast as they can as thats where they make the money now not Advertising.
 
I legit get "wings throwing a controller to the exercise chair" angry when I see shit like this.

Firefly was cut down before its prime but we could have comfort it was good for as long as it lasted

Not anymore
 
I bet this reboot will either be fanatically pro-ChiCom or totally excise the Chinese elements entirely. The originally neutral if not slightly satirical treatment of the fusion of Western/democratic and Chinese/authoritarian cultures is probably too hot for Disney to handle.
 

JMS has gone full woke and suddenly decided that the original's portrayal of the Earth president (the second one, who assassinated his predecessor for the Shadows) was prescient and a perfect analogy for Trump (y'know because Donald Trump got us involved in so many wars and was an authoritarian dickhead who put the whole country on lockdown, just like the Earth Federation president guyz!), and therefore it's the ideal opportunity to bring back Babylon 5 with #current_year sensibilities. He's been on FB and Twitter spewing this garbage.

Guy used to be pretty centrist/libertarian. Oh well. Anyway as I said his works (5th season, yes I know there was studio fuckery), Crusade, most of the B5 "Movies" including Legends of the Rangers, is all shit so I doubt it'll happen.
 
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