HBO’s Watchmen - NOTHING EVER ENDS...Except When It Should

[Krokodil Overdose]

I thought the show would get better but it's pozzed and dumb. Yeah racism is totally a world ending event.

As long as the racism is perpetrated by white rednecks in Literally Where, OK. Genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass deportations... those don't even register on Hollywood's radar.

The whole thing is a monument to how fucking parochial these goobers are, imagining the stuff that they care about is the stuff that the world cares about.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I think there's a germ of an interesting idea on having Watchmen deal with how divided modern America has become, but it should be more about the left and right in general, not specifically focused on racism and specifically black and white racism at that.

To me Watchman is all about very large scale story telling, it wasn't just about the Cold War or the threat of WW3 but really the human condition in general, the narrow focus of this HBO series is missing the point entirely.

 

[BrunoMattei]

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I think there's a germ of an interesting idea on having Watchmen deal with how divided modern America has become, but it should be more about the left and right in general, not specifically focused on racism and specifically black and white racism at that.

The Watchmen shouldn't do shit. The comic was about two flabby, retired superheroes playing Scooby Doo and stumbling into a conspiracy involving a living god and a megalomaniac. They do maybe one heroic thing over 12 issues, but spend most of the time shrugging at each other while everything around them goes to shit. Having the Watchmen deal with anything kinda misses the point of the original comic, seeing as it ends with them ultimately making the decision to do nothing.

 

[Dom Cruise]

The Watchmen shouldn't do shit. The comic was about two flabby, retired superheroes playing Scooby Doo and stumbling into a conspiracy involving a living god and a megalomaniac. They do maybe one heroic thing over 12 issues, but spend most of the time shrugging at each other while everything around them goes to shit. Having the Watchmen deal with anything kinda misses the point of the original comic, seeing as it ends with them ultimately making the decision to do nothing.

I meant "deal" as in deal with the theme, not having the Watchmen directly deal with it.

 

[Nobunaga]

Shouldnt people be more afraid of the raining squids, the blue naked dude wjo could return at any minute or another inter dimentional squid coming to fuck them over?
I though that was the whole point of the ending and the others deciding to keep quiet about the conspiracy

 

[friedshrimp]

I like the actors chosen for Laurie and Adrian, but yeah, what a way to dump on the original series. I think if the story was an original IP and not desperately trying to cash in on the Watchmen name it could be slightly interesting...?

I guess I'm just tired of woke reboots always going "this thing you liked back in the day? well thing bad! we'll adapt it the correct, unproblematic way and you will like this version unless you want to be called a bigot".

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I think there's a germ of an interesting idea on having Watchmen deal with how divided modern America has become, but it should be more about the left and right in general, not specifically focused on racism and specifically black and white racism at that.

To me Watchman is all about very large scale story telling, it wasn't just about the Cold War or the threat of WW3 but really the human condition in general, the narrow focus of this HBO series is missing the point entirely.

I'd argue that it's half missing the point. You need both sides- the kid at the stand reading the pirate comic contrasted with the impending nuclear annihilation of all life- to bring the story to life. You also need to be at least somewhat sympathetic to all the parties involved, understand where they're coming from, and humanize them because the value of human life, and what potentially must be done to preserve it, is what the big picture is all about. This new series, thus far, is missing basically all of that. There's no big picture, and the small picture is "wypipo be raycisss!"

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

I'd argue that it's half missing the point. You need both sides- the kid at the stand reading the pirate comic contrasted with the impending nuclear annihilation of all life- to bring the story to life. You also need to be at least somewhat sympathetic to all the parties involved, understand where they're coming from, and humanize them because the value of human life, and what potentially must be done to preserve it, is what the big picture is all about. This new series, thus far, is missing basically all of that. There's no big picture, and the small picture is "wypipo be raycisss!"

I still say they should add Vietnam into this and make it a major part of the story.

 

[Judge Holden]

And to think I was once shocked to see that DC's latest giant comic crossover event had Doctor Manhatten became a cackling villain strawman of Alan Moore obsessed with making every comic universe as edgy and dark as the watchmen one...

Really aint no bottom to how much shit can be caked on to previously respected franchises/properties

 

[XYZpdq]

Doctor Manhatten became a cackling villain strawman of Alan Moore obsessed with making every comic universe as edgy and dark as the watchmen one...

that's actually pretty fucking funny

 

[Hallstein995]

I think there's a germ of an interesting idea on having Watchmen deal with how divided modern America has become, but it should be more about the left and right in general, not specifically focused on racism and specifically black and white racism at that.

To me Watchman is all about very large scale story telling, it wasn't just about the Cold War or the threat of WW3 but really the human condition in general, the narrow focus of this HBO series is missing the point entirely.

I'd say the other half of the problem is that it pulls a page from marvel movies and it is made abundantly clear who we are supposed to side with. We're only 3 episodes in and it's been made abundantly clear that Regina king's character is our moral center, despite her being a somehow more unhinged version of Rorschach. At this point the show feels more like a power fantasy, complete with a much younger trophy husband and all the one-note villains you can get. So far the only new character I like is glass, and he's basically Rorschach if Rorschach was a nihilist.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

So far the only new character I like is glass, and he's basically Rorschach if Rorschach was a nihilist.

I was thinking about this at work, and having a guy with a mirrored face as the successor to Rorschach is on-theme, if a bit on the nose.

 

[Cool kitties club]

Hbo watchmen is so much better then I was expecting. The interviews made it seem absolutely but the show is probably the most engaged with a tv show I’ve been since the x files. Shit is weird and crazy and the vmcinstant references to watchmen make my lizard brain happy.

 

[Nobunaga]

Hbo watchmen is so much better then I was expecting. The interviews made it seem absolutely but the show is probably the most engaged with a tv show I’ve been since the x files. Shit is weird and crazy and the vmcinstant references to watchmen make my lizard brain happy.

Consume product and get excited for more product

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Shouldnt people be more afraid of the raining squids, the blue naked dude wjo could return at any minute or another inter dimentional squid coming to fuck them over?
I though that was the whole point of the ending and the others deciding to keep quiet about the conspiracy

Sure if you want a script not written by a hack

to bad these scripts are written by a hack

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Hbo watchmen is so much better then I was expecting. The interviews made it seem absolutely but the show is probably the most engaged with a tv show I’ve been since the x files. Shit is weird and crazy and the vmcinstant references to watchmen make my lizard brain happy.

I mean I'm pretty engaged... just so I can see how badly they screw up

 

[Cool kitties club]

I feel like HBO Watchmen is a lot more satirical then people are giving it credit for the police have a racism detector that if you fail you get savagely beaten, the hooded justice tv show had a comically long trigger warning, its stated in peteypedia that ozymadius funded the current democratic president, not olny are the Sk compared to rorshach but also mother night and looking glass, red scare and Judd are compared to the comedian, and the 7K are the only ones who actually know the truth about the alien invasion. I find it odd people have simply dismissed it as "woke" propaganda when there is more going on.

 

[frozenrunner]

I find it odd people have simply dismissed it as "woke" propaganda when there is more going on.

I'm not watching a show that tries to claim serious concerns with "the rise of white supremacy" in 2019 (please) are in any way comparable to fears of nuclear genocide during the Cold War. And I'm not watching a Moore-free sequel (or prequel) to Watchmen no matter what.

There's a lot of talented people working on this, so I don't suspect it's pure shit. I'm sure it's mechanically fine, well-paced, and I'm sure it's shot well and the acting is great. I've liked most of Lindelof's work over the years, too. I'm in the minority here, but I think he's a pretty good writer.

But I'm tired of being preached to by delusional identitarian victimhood addicts who always claim the sky is falling no matter how good they have it. Anyone who has watched anything from Hollywood has had to overlook, to some degree, retarded progressive politics in their entertainment, sure, but I'm not wasting my time on a show that fails to understand anything about Watchmen, merely using the brand as a stage from which to virtue signal and lecture the audience about the irrelevant nonsense the writers hallucinate about in their race-obsessed shitlib social bubbles while they parade token black actors around to make themselves feel good. This is cynical IP abuse. I'll be okay without the neato Watchmen easter eggs.

Let us know if the show concludes that the American left has gone entirely off the edge and is swinging at shadows while claiming to be heroes. I somehow doubt it will happen.

 

[Cool kitties club]

I'm not watching a show that tries to claim serious concerns with "the rise of white supremacy" in 2019 (please) are in any way comparable to fears of nuclear genocide during the Cold War. And I'm not watching a Moore-free sequel (or prequel) to Watchmen no matter what.

And it’s those same white supremacist who are the only ones who know the truth about ozymandius. The show certainly says white supremacy is and but it also shows how the hyper liberal society of watchmen is also pretty bad and built on a lie. Similar to the original watchmen it shows moral nuance. I don’t think it’s as good as the original watchmen but people just seem be dissing it on hand. From the interviews I thought the show was gonna be straight garbage and would trash the legacy of the original watchmen but it’s actually really good.