HBO’s Watchmen - NOTHING EVER ENDS...Except When It Should

[XYZpdq]

if this is actually some 3meta5me shit about crappy woke spinoff/reboot/sequels and how they're a bunch of dumb crap than it will probably be the most thematically sincere adaptation of the comics ever made

 

[Coffee Anon]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ut3QkuarFsA

How does E;R keep getting away with it?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Jean Smart is still the best

 

[Marco Fucko]

Space Cadet Diversity Minute made a video bringing up some stuff that doesn't get as much attention as the other stuff has been:

I haven't been watching the series because quite frankly I think Watchmen is the type of thing that shouldn't have a sequel or prequel or anything else. I think it is rather specifically a product of its time and borrowing the brand and mythos to move forward or backward in time just doesn't mesh.

If there was to be a modern Watchmen, I think it would have to take inspiration from Marvel's heroes, structure and mythos, and if it were going to be an honest critique of modern society, it would have to tackle the inherent corruption in modern democracy and the conflicting interests between common citizens vs the political class, in addition to our consistent dehumanizing of people from different sociological 'tribes' and retreating into our own circles.

 

[frozenrunner]

Jean Smart is still the best

It's awesome when great actors get a chance to prove how versatile they are after they're typecast or have a huge, defining role that overshadows their careers. Noah Hawley and other TV roles have really helped people recognize Smart's dramatic talents later in her career, post-Designing Women, which makes me happy.

I keep wishing someone would do the same for Lance Henriksen before he croaks. Probably not gonna happen

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

How does E;R keep getting away with it?

Because he's Susan Wojiscki in disguise

 

[Thank Fuck For Evil Otto]

It's awesome when great actors get a chance to prove how versatile they are after they're typecast or have a huge, defining role that overshadows their careers. Noah Hawley and other TV roles have really helped people recognize Smart's dramatic talents later in her career, post-Designing Women, which makes me happy.

I keep wishing someone would do the same for Lance Henriksen before he croaks. Probably not gonna happen

He's overdue for a revival. I'd like him in some kind of grey psychological horror series, like a tamed David Lynch-style series. Low on action, high on mood and tension; low on cuts, heavy on long, slow shots.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

And it’s those same white supremacist who are the only ones who know the truth about ozymandius. The show certainly says white supremacy is and but it also shows how the hyper liberal society of watchmen is also pretty bad and built on a lie. Similar to the original watchmen it shows moral nuance. I don’t think it’s as good as the original watchmen but people just seem be dissing it on hand. From the interviews I thought the show was gonna be straight garbage and would trash the legacy of the original watchmen but it’s actually really good.

I think you're putting more thought into this than (((Lindeloff))) and his claque. On paper, you could use what's been shown as the set-up for a very Watchmenesque story. Think about it: the useless police are hand-in-glove with a brutal masked vigilante who kidnaps and tortures suspects, conducts unwarranted searches and seizures, and generally shits all over every facet of the rights of the accused, and the "law enforcement" that's supposed to crack down on this kind of behavior is instead using it to cover for their own incompetence and launder their responsibility for the situation. Remind you of anyone?

Honestly, this is the kind of set-up that could have the fuck subverted out of it. Have Mirrormask (or whatever the hell his name is) seen secretly colluding with some shadowy figures, leading Mother Night (and the audience) the believe that he's secretly working with 7K or something (he must be evil, he's a fucking white male!) Then the reveal comes: he's actually a whistleblower who's been working for the FBI or Internal Affairs to root out the corruption in the Tulsa police department and their complicity with Keene Act violators. Pull the rug right out from under the characters and the audience by holding up a mirror (fittingly) to what the "hero" actually is, ending-of-The-Shield-style.

But it's [the current year.] Does anyone actually believe the nutless wonders who populate Hollywood are actually going to explore the moral complexities of the world they're working with when they can just bleat "BLACK WAMMAN GOOD! WHITE MAN BAAAAAAAAD!" to the plaudits of #woke Twitter?

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I think you're putting more thought into this than (((Lindeloff))) and his claque.

Exactly. This feels like another Game of Thrones or Westworld, where the writing is so comically hackneyed that you trick yourself into believing its purposefully bad to set up some brilliant twist that'll blow your mind and recontextualize everything that came before it. But no. The writing is hackneyed because the writers are hacks.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

If there was to be a modern Watchmen, I think it would have to take inspiration from Marvel's heroes, structure and mythos, and if it were going to be an honest critique of modern society, it would have to tackle the inherent corruption in modern democracy and the conflicting interests between common citizens vs the political class, in addition to our consistent dehumanizing of people from different sociological 'tribes' and retreating into our own circles.

And if you did that Marvel and DC would black list you

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

If there was to be a modern Watchmen, I think it would have to take inspiration from Marvel's heroes, structure and mythos, and if it were going to be an honest critique of modern society, it would have to tackle the inherent corruption in modern democracy and the conflicting interests between common citizens vs the political class, in addition to our consistent dehumanizing of people from different sociological 'tribes' and retreating into our own circles.

So pretty much Watchmen x Avengers x Transmetropolitan? I'm not opposed to this idea.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

So pretty much Watchmen x Avengers x Transmetropolitan? I'm not opposed to this idea.

Isn't that just The Boys?

 

[Dom Cruise]

I feel like HBO Watchmen is a lot more satirical then people are giving it credit for the police have a racism detector that if you fail you get savagely beaten, the hooded justice tv show had a comically long trigger warning, its stated in peteypedia that ozymadius funded the current democratic president, not olny are the Sk compared to rorshach but also mother night and looking glass, red scare and Judd are compared to the comedian, and the 7K are the only ones who actually know the truth about the alien invasion. I find it odd people have simply dismissed it as "woke" propaganda when there is more going on.

I like to think you're right, but I have my doubts.

 

[Cool kitties club]

Finished episode 4 and man was it boring. The episode was mostly filler and explaining stuff that was already heavily implied. The only real interesting part was the lube man and the Ozymandias scenes.

Spoiler

We learn that Will reeves (the wheelchair man) is the boy from the tulsi massacre which was obvious, Ozymandias is in some weird prison which was obvious since the game warden, lady trieu is kinda interesting but right shes just mysterious businesswoman, and we learn Will was abducted by a trieu flying ship and that this flying ship may have dropped the car. There was a cool moment at the end where lady trieu is like "Will why are you playing coy with the pills just tell her" and hes like "its more fun this way".

One thing I like about this show is that it doesnt waste time explaining stuff to new comers. So theres very little pointless exposition just explaining stuff from the original.

 

[Cool kitties club]

Episode 5: Looking Glass gets red pilled. This episode was far better then episode 4 as it actually revealed new information about looking glass

Spoiler

We learn looking glass was there the day of the squid attack and wears his mask as a tinfoil hat. Looking glass also eats beans like Rorschach. Looking glass is lead by a girl to a 7K hideout where it’s revealed keene jr is the leader and is suing it as psy op to conduct some scary plan and that the white supremacy was just a cover. Looking glass is then redpilled on the squid question. Looking glass then has sister night arrested by Laurie and sister then takes Nostalgia (wills memories in pill form). 7K then show up to looking glasses house with guns . Ozymandius is repacked to be on a moon of mars or maybe mars idk. It’s implied dr mahatten has left mars and is god knows where. Ozymandius then shapes all his dead servants on mars into a help me message that is seen by a satellite.

Also ozymandius in a video says he supports true equality and progress and says he engineered the squid attack in a way to get President Redford elected.

Tl;dr ozymandius is in space, 7K is a psy op, and looking glass gets redpilled on the squid question

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Episode 5: Looking Glass gets red pilled. This episode was far better then episode 4 as it actually revealed new information about looking glass

Spoiler

We learn looking glass was there the day of the squid attack and wears his mask as a tinfoil hat. Looking glass also eats beans like Rorschach. Looking glass is lead by a girl to a 7K hideout where it’s revealed keene jr is the leader and is suing it as psy op to conduct some scary plan and that the white supremacy was just a cover. Looking glass is then redpilled on the squid question. Looking glass then has sister night arrested by Laurie and sister then takes Nostalgia (wills memories in pill form). 7K then show up to looking glasses house with guns . Ozymandius is repacked to be on a moon of mars or maybe mars idk. It’s implied dr mahatten has left mars and is god knows where. Ozymandius then shapes all his dead servants on mars into a help me message that is seen by a satellite.

Also ozymandius in a video says he supports true equality and progress and says he engineered the squid attack in a way to get President Redford elected.

Tl;dr ozymandius is in space, 7K is a psy op, and looking glass gets redpilled on the squid question

huh so psa sitch was right: the seventh K is just a cover for something greater. Maybe this shopw isn't as cucked as it first appeared

 

[HeyYou]

Episode 5: Looking Glass gets red pilled. This episode was far better then episode 4 as it actually revealed new information about looking glass

Spoiler

We learn looking glass was there the day of the squid attack and wears his mask as a tinfoil hat. Looking glass also eats beans like Rorschach. Looking glass is lead by a girl to a 7K hideout where it’s revealed keene jr is the leader and is suing it as psy op to conduct some scary plan and that the white supremacy was just a cover. Looking glass is then redpilled on the squid question. Looking glass then has sister night arrested by Laurie and sister then takes Nostalgia (wills memories in pill form). 7K then show up to looking glasses house with guns . Ozymandius is repacked to be on a moon of mars or maybe mars idk. It’s implied dr mahatten has left mars and is god knows where. Ozymandius then shapes all his dead servants on mars into a help me message that is seen by a satellite.

Also ozymandius in a video says he supports true equality and progress and says he engineered the squid attack in a way to get President Redford elected.

Tl;dr ozymandius is in space, 7K is a psy op, and looking glass gets redpilled on the squid question

I genuinely didn't think the theories that this show was going to drop (a bit of) the racial stuff and go in a different direction were correct, but here we are. I considered 1 to be a rocky start, but I've been warming up to the next couple of episodes. I'm glad they're going in a more "high stakes" direction like the comics did, but I genuinely can't image the woke people watching will like the twist. Downplaying white supremacy or something. Still, the show is definitely not 9/10 like the critics are saying.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

huh so psa sitch was right: the seventh K is just a cover for something greater. Maybe this shopw isn't as cucked as it first appeared

I know I mentioned it twice but I still say it would help to get Vietnam involved into the plot, have them use The Comedian’s past actions against the US have them hold a pic of the pregnant woman he killed Bane style while voicing out their grievances to the US. Or make their resistance a group of Comedian impersonators, wearing his mask and outfit except with the old North Vietnam flag on their shoulders.

 

[3odasbackbitches]

Space Cadet Diversity Minute made a video bringing up some stuff that doesn't get as much attention as the other stuff has been:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hsmXM5l7Abs:0
I haven't been watching the series because quite frankly I think Watchmen is the type of thing that shouldn't have a sequel or prequel or anything else. I think it is rather specifically a product of its time and borrowing the brand and mythos to move forward or backward in time just doesn't mesh.

If there was to be a modern Watchmen, I think it would have to take inspiration from Marvel's heroes, structure and mythos, and if it were going to be an honest critique of modern society, it would have to tackle the inherent corruption in modern democracy and the conflicting interests between common citizens vs the political class, in addition to our consistent dehumanizing of people from different sociological 'tribes' and retreating into our own circles.

This dude is the biggest fucking faggot I've ever watched. Didn't he complain about Spider-Man making offensive jokes and now he's saying a series writing by an old boomer who loves rape is some sort of woke masterpiece?

 

[HeyYou]

This dude is the biggest fucking faggot I've ever watched. Didn't he complain about Spider-Man making offensive jokes and now he's saying a series writing by an old boomer who loves rape is some sort of woke masterpiece?

Moore also hates this series, so quoting him like he's the gospel can just be easily reversed. And yes, he's the one who insulted Raimi's Spider-Man. Captain Midnight's response is really good, and of course Cosmonaut shows up in the comments to be smarmy.