Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Gondolindrim]

They deliver on the concept because if they start to fail, they get shit-canned.

Which is a two way street. A lot of perfectly serviceable stories get cancelled for vague reasons, while crap can go on forever.

 

[The tired cat]

They don't try to subvert my expectations;

Something like Drifters is def a subversion of the Isekai genre, since instead of regular dweebs and heroic types, you get historic figures with questional pasts as the good guys, while the badguys are made of Jesus and Joan of Ark, or Getbackers who did a sort off subversion of why characters in a Shonen series have these weird powers and dont seem to die after being sliced or having lightning thrown at them.

they don't change the plot halfway through;

Second season of Big O comes to mind, where they changed the plot entirely.

they sure as hell don't try to make 'their version' of an author's work.

First adaption of FMA, Hellsing, Trigun (which I guess was for the better in some regards), the afformentioned Getbackers, Desert Punk, Shaman King (though was for the best since the manga sucked hard)

They deliver on the concept because if they start to fail, they get shit-canned.

I mean, Bleach was essentially running on whatever the fuck the author could make on the fly, an it sure didnt get shitcanned.

 

[man_made_of_meat]

Here's a list of other famous anime created by women:
Ranma 1/2
Inuyasha
Magic Knight Rayearth
Fruits Basket
Cardcaptor Sakura
Urusei Yatsura
Michiko & Hatchin
A Silent Voice
The Rose of Versailles

Everything ever created by CLAMP, Rumiko Takahashi, and let s please not forget Hiromu Arakava (FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST, absolutely killer).

 

[FK009]

First adaption of FMA, Hellsing, Trigun (which I guess was for the better in some regards), the afformentioned Getbackers, Desert Punk, Shaman King (though was for the best since the manga sucked hard)

You have a point with those, but at least those were understandable since, at the time, they had X amount of episodes, and that was it. The mangas weren’t finished, and they likely couldn’t get filler like the big-name anime like Naruto, DB, Bleach, or Yu-Gi-Oh. (Nowadays, anime seems to have a traditional Western season like MHA and Fire Force, maybe Konosuba.)

Edit: with Bleach, it’s an action anime, I know the writing was likely on the fly, but I assumed it was like DBZ, where there’s a story for flavor, but at the end of the day, it's about reaper battles and cool power-ups than it is about Ichigo and his character development.

As for the subversion of drifters, did it do it halfway through the series, or was it there from the get-go, like Konosuba? There’s a difference between something like Madoka Magica and anything Rian Johnson makes. You know from the start that Madoka is going to be fucked up, while a guy like Johnson lies to you at first and then tries to feed you shit at the end.

 

[The tired cat]

You have a point with those, but at least those were understandable since, at the time, they had X amount of episodes, and that was it. The mangas weren’t finished, and they likely couldn’t get filler like the big-name anime like Naruto, DB, Bleach, or Yu-Gi-Oh. (Nowadays, anime seems to have a traditional Western season like MHA and Fire Force, maybe Konosuba.

Well with some of them they had enough material to warrant a season until more of the manga was finished (namely Hellsing, FMA, Trigun), while others were actually fully finished (Getbackers and Shaman King), but I guess it falls on the studio as well.

As for the subversion of drifters, did it do it halfway through the series, or was it there from the get-go, like Konosuba? There’s a difference between something like Madoka Magica and anything Rian Johnson makes. You know from the start that Madoka is going to be fucked up, while a guy like Johnson lies to you at first and then tries to feed you shit at the end

It was from the start, right of the bat you're intorduced to the main three characters, with one of em being fricking Oda Nobunaga

Also, just so we dont drift too offtopic, someone already memed the Moxxie moment. Sadly no Jojo parodies yet

 

[FK009]

It was from the start, right of the bat you're intorduced to the main three characters, with one of em being fricking Oda Nobunaga

I see. A subversion (Subversive, maybe, would be a better word) to be sure, but not the kind of one I'm thinking of. I'm thinking more along the lines of hyping up a romance between two characters for the entire series, but then Character X decides to go Gay/lesbian, join a Polycule, or live alone in the mountains as a cat-owning CEO instead of giving the audience catharsis. Yeah, that subverted my expectations; it also told me I should go fuck myself and the show runners do not respect my time.

Like Helluva Boss: It's about IMP Assassins. But then in season 2, it's about Stolitz, and will continue to be about them in season 3.

Also, just so we dont drift too offtopic, someone already memed the Moxxie moment. Sadly no Jojo parodies yet

That is just criminal. Turn off the sound, you can literally hear the anime themes as he's throwing hands. All the braindead memes to make, they didn't do some of the most obvious? Is there at least a OPM Parody?

 

[The Nothingness]

Also, just so we dont drift too offtopic, someone already memed the Moxxie moment. Sadly no Jojo parodies yet
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7dXbL-cwKU8

That is just criminal. Turn off the sound, you can literally hear the anime themes as he's throwing hands. All the braindead memes to make, they didn't do some of the most obvious? Is there at least a OPM Parody?

Someone better do a version with Guile's theme.

 

[Sonya-chan]

Him replacing Loona for the scene with Millie sums up the show's direction in a nutshell: Stolas is a central character and female characters are sidelined.

Odd considering... Y'know, I'm sure they would love to see stolas wearing a dress

 

[The tired cat]

I see. A subversion (Subversive, maybe, would be a better word) to be sure, but not the kind of one I'm thinking of. I'm thinking more along the lines of hyping up a romance between two characters for the entire series, but then Character X decides to go Gay/lesbian, join a Polycule, or live alone in the mountains as a cat-owning CEO instead of giving the audience catharsis. Yeah, that subverted my expectations; it also told me I should go fuck myself and the show runners do not respect my time.

Like Helluva Boss: It's about IMP Assassins. But then in season 2, it's about Stolitz, and will continue to be about them in season 3.

Okay, that's fair. Cause I was thinking of "stuff that goes entirely against the established genre" so anime like Drifters or Part time Satan in terms of isekai stuff.

That is just criminal. Turn off the sound, you can literally hear the anime themes as he's throwing hands. All the braindead memes to make, they didn't do some of the most obvious? Is there at least a OPM Parody?

Sadly nope, unless any don't pop up, guess I'll need to do a Jojo parody then.

 

[Bababooey Warlock]

With how insufferable all of the characters in Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are, I think it's best if they were all sex slaves for greater demons, except for the underage and innocent ones.

 

[invisibult plus+]

Here's a list of other famous anime created by women:
Ranma 1/2
Inuyasha
Magic Knight Rayearth
Fruits Basket
Cardcaptor Sakura
Urusei Yatsura
Michiko & Hatchin
A Silent Voice
The Rose of Versailles

Everything ever created by CLAMP, Rumiko Takahashi, and let s please not forget Hiromu Arakava (FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST, absolutely killer).

Dorohedoro.

 

[nevertosubmit88]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kJXWQWW-og
My thoughts: It surely does exist.

This was decent, even though it's a retarded queer version of the Krusty Krab training video

 

[The Nothingness]

After reading about the passing of Anthony Stewart Head, I listened to some of the songs from Repo! The Genetic Opera and thought how much better Hazbin Hotel would be as a rock musical.

 

[Niggerphobe]

Did they ever explain how Lucifer has power and yet he can’t smite

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Did they ever explain how Lucifer has power and yet he can’t smite

He's not allowed to harm sinners specifically. The why is never explained, just the what.

 

[Strawberry Kiwi Propel]

He's not allowed to harm sinners specifically. The why is never explained, just the what.

The reason why is because that's his punishment. He's surrounded by the worst of mankind, and there's nothing he could do about it.

Well, intentionally that is, as the final conflict in the finale is everybody panicking about getting killed by Vox's weapon imploding on itself, and prior to that, we see sinners getting blasted by Lucifer's beams, meaning that he can harm sinners as long as it's not deliberate on his end.

i.e, if Lucifer tries to shoot a sinner with a gun, it'd probably won't work, but if he were to play with the gun and it accidentally goes off, the sinner could get hit by the bullet.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The reason why is because that's his punishment. He's surrounded by the worst of mankind, and there's nothing he could do about it.

I don't recall this being stated in the show and frankly the writing isn't intelligent or tight enough for me to trust any supposed subtext.

 

[Niggerphobe]

He's not allowed to harm sinners specifically. The why is never explained, just the what.

So then why didn’t he ever have a whole team of powerful hellborn at his side

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

So then why didn’t he ever have a whole team of powerful hellborn at his side

My man. Intelligence and Common Sense are two things you cannot expect from a Vivziepop production.

 

[cremechocolate]

So then why didn’t he ever have a whole team of powerful hellborn at his side

Isn't that what the seven deadly sins are?