Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

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Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votos: 68 2.3%

  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votos: 61 2.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votos: 118 4.0%

  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votos: 236 8.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votos: 827 28.3%

  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votos: 1,173 40.2%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votos: 14 0.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votos: 82 2.8%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votos: 81 2.8%

  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votos: 763 26.1%

  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votos: 227 7.8%

  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votos: 421 14.4%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votos: 105 3.6%

  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votos: 341 11.7%
  • Total de votantes
    2,919
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The Last Stand dijo:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a1t8SULwi5g
Love how GTA IV can simultaneously be a serious crime drama with goofy satirical undertones within its world.
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Kinda wish for a GTA IV beta map with Carcer City.

The setting of the game was originally going to be Liberty State, rather than just Liberty City, and it would have included countryside surrounding Liberty City, mountains based on the Adirondacks and Catskills, and possibly even The Carraways. The article mentioned that there were three cities. First is Liberty City, next is possibly The Caraways, and the last could be Carcer City mentioned as "nearby".

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Burt Ryan dijo:
Kinda wish for a GTA IV beta map with Carcer City.

The setting of the game was originally going to be Liberty State, rather than just Liberty City, and it would have included countryside surrounding Liberty City, mountains based on the Adirondacks and Catskills, and possibly even The Carraways. The article mentioned that there were three cities. First is Liberty City, next is possibly The Caraways, and the last could be Carcer City mentioned as "nearby".

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everyones dream would be fulfilled in that map

to visit yonkers in a gta game that'd be living the life
 
Burt Ryan dijo:
Kinda wish for a GTA IV beta map with Carcer City.
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There's no "beta map". That map is completely fake and anything involving the Manhunt city and GTAIV is pure fanfiction.

The fake map is based on a really early concept for the map from like 2005 before they even started working on it. It's just a rough drawing with the irl names for each location. The scope was limited to just the city very early on, there was never any real "countryside" developed.

The only cut areas that could potentially be recovered are the GTAIV rendition of Staten Island that got folded into Alderney and IIRC one of the smaller islands between Algonquin and Broker was meant to be slightly bigger. The beta that got leaked recently doesn't have either of them btw, so those were cut way earlier than the beta version of the map too.
 
capitalBBustard dijo:
There's no "beta map". That map is completely fake and anything involving the Manhunt city and GTAIV is pure fanfiction.

The fake map is based on a really early concept for the map from like 2005 before they even started working on it. It's just a rough drawing with the irl names for each location. The scope was limited to just the city very early on, there was never any real "countryside" developed.

The only cut areas that could potentially be recovered are the GTAIV rendition of Staten Island that got folded into Alderney and IIRC one of the smaller islands between Algonquin and Broker was meant to be slightly bigger. The beta that got leaked recently doesn't have either of them btw, so those were cut way earlier than the beta version of the map too.
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The only thing I sort of wouldn't have minded is a big fake terrain around the Alderney and Broker sides, like in GTA III or Mafia's Lost Heaven, just so that you don't have Liberty City in the middle of nowhere. This was also a huge issue with GTA 5 IMO, since the fact that Los Santos was an island meant that every region outside of Los Santos wasn't large enough to generate a sense of place, while Los Angeles is basically bordered by a huge infinite desert to the Northeast that would have made for a good map boundary.

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I actually wonder if they'l do this with Leonida's northern border in GTA 6 since the state of Gloriana is to the north.

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Stealth from GTA: SA was a mechanic that, according to Obbe Vermeij, was "regretted" based on how thinned that team was stretched during development.

I don't know about the 2 missions. My recollection is that stealth was specifically one of the things we regretted adding to SA as we ended up stretching ourselves too thin. So I thought stealth was never pursued in gta4. Then again, there were experiments going on all the time…
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This was asked after a silenced weapon was discovered in GTA IV's internal files.
 
The Last Stand dijo:
Stealth from GTA: SA was a mechanic that, according to Obbe Vermeij, was "regretted" based on how thinned that team was stretched during development.



This was asked after a silenced weapon was discovered in GTA IV's internal files.
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Stealth is barely in GTA: San Andreas. It's like two missions and the burglary mechanic if you *really* want to stretch it.

I don't know why that'd be a "regret". It worked fine for what it was.
 
Rudolf's Friend dijo:
Would Steven Ogg even be up to playing him again considering how much he hates the character even though his career is almost entirely that character?
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Considering he's the only one to not make a return in GTA Online (apart from when Online preceded V's story and the main character helps Trevor set up his drug business) I doubt this will ever happen. I would also mention that they wouldn't have the budget to spare considering all updates after The Contract are really low budget indian garbage, but Ned Luke himself made a comeback as Michael in the last update, so that point is moot.
 
jje100010001 dijo:
The only thing I sort of wouldn't have minded is a big fake terrain around the Alderney and Broker sides, like in GTA III or Mafia's Lost Heaven, just so that you don't have Liberty City in the middle of nowhere.
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I believe IV's map was conceptualized before its story. If so, I would think Niko's exile would've made better sense then, like how Michael and Trevor were exiled to Sandy Shores during that story. All Niko did was move islands, moving to another state would've been logical if you're on the run. That's the only major plot hole I found out about GTA IV's story when you think about it.


GTA IV came out at the perfect time, metaphysically and figuratively speaking. GTA IV was developed in 2004, right after San Andreas. All the social commentary related in Liberty City had to be predicted and timed in advance. Notice the topical events mentioned in IV such as the economic crisis and the War or Terror. All that that was still looming around 2008, so Rockstar corrected predicted 2000s social trends to make GTA IV a contemporary product.

Even in the little things like Internet cafes, cell phones, celebrity worship, television consumption, 24/7 news coverage, all of that was perfectly lampshaded and integrated into IV's gameplay and storytelling in various ways. In that, IV has evolved itself into a time capsule of 2000s American culture that is longed for give today's Current Year, crazy world.

The Houser brothers have stated that making GTA (VI) topical and current would be a tough task given today's climate. They're right. Everything happens so fast, so sudden, what would seem crazy as satire may just actually happen out of nowhere. GTA VI, despite being in development hell, is already dated since Miami changes their downtown developments rapidly that whatever depiction Vice City would have, those buildings now may either be demolished or rebuilt entirely. Don't even get started on any current political events or trends that would be considered "risque" and "offensive" to discuss.
 
jje100010001 dijo:
The only thing I sort of wouldn't have minded is a big fake terrain around the Alderney and Broker sides, like in GTA III or Mafia's Lost Heaven, just so that you don't have Liberty City in the middle of nowhere. This was also a huge issue with GTA 5 IMO, since the fact that Los Santos was an island meant that every region outside of Los Santos wasn't large enough to generate a sense of place, while Los Angeles is basically bordered by a huge infinite desert to the Northeast that would have made for a good map boundary.
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I think the biggest problem is that despite being such a large area, the wilderness parts of the GTAV map is basically wasted. Yeah, a few missions take place there and there are the chopper jumps, but most of the playable area is just there. Those three mountains, the Air Force Base, the labs, the giant dead sea by Sandy Shores, and the little islands and shoreline of the entire state are basically just wasted opportunities because nothing much happens in those areas. I guess you could go hiking or swim or bike or something but that seems to be it.
 
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