🐱 Gavin McInnes Fired From Blaze Media, YouTube Account Disabled

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/proud-boys-gavin-mcinnes-fired_us_5c0ea391e4b0edf5a3a75bf8

The far-right bigot was kicked off Facebook and Twitter in recent months too.



Gavin McInnes, the founder of the violent neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys, was fired from Blaze Media, and his YouTube account was disabled ― the latest in a series of professional setbacks for the far-right bigot.

The Blaze, founded by conservative pundit Glenn Beck, merged with CRTV last week to form right-wing media giant Blaze Media. McInnes hosted a podcast with CRTV called “Get Off My Lawn,” which he used to discuss his anti-Muslim and misogynistic beliefs.

“Blaze Media no longer has a relationship with Gavin McInnes, and per company policy, cannot comment on personnel matters,” the company tweeted Saturday.

Asked for comment Monday about his firing, McInnes told HuffPost he believed “there has been a concerted effort to de-platform me” and claimed he was the victim of “lies and propaganda.”

“Someone very powerful decided long ago that I shouldn’t have a voice,” he wrote in an email. “I’m finally out of platforms and unable to defend myself. ... We are no longer living in a free country.”

McInnes, who co-founded Vice before leaving the media company in 2008, quit the Proud Boys last month a day after a report indicated that the FBI had described them as an “extremist group with ties to white nationalism.” The FBI has since denied classifying the group as an extremist group, The Washington Post reported Friday.

In October, members of the Proud Boys violently assaulted leftist protesters outside the Metropolitan Republican Club in Manhattan, where McInnes spoke earlier that evening. At least nine of them were arrested days later.

His ouster from Blaze comes after several social media platforms, including Facebook and Twitter, banned him over their policies prohibiting hate speech and “violent extremist groups.” He has also been kicked off Amazon and PayPal.


The Daily Beast reported Monday that McInnes’ YouTube profile and channel have been deleted. McInnes said YouTube received complaints about copyright violations for old videos featured on his page.

A statement on his channel’s now-defunct page reads, “This account has been terminated because we received multiple third-party claims of copyright infringement regarding material the user posted.”

Asked if McInnes has been banned from the platform, a YouTube spokesperson said in a statement Monday that the company terminates the accounts of “repeat offenders.”

“When a copyright holder notifies us of a video that infringes on their copyright, we act quickly to remove content, as is required of us by law,” the spokesperson said.

According to YouTube’s copyright strikes policy, a copyright offender may submit a counternotification arguing that a video in question was “misidentified as infringing or qualifies as a potential fair use.”

McInnes told HuffPost he plans to file counternotifications for the copyright complaints.

 

[Ineedahero]

Regardless of your political alignment, shoving a dildo up your ass on camera for your web audience is a pretty big no-no for most sane people.

And yet it seems all too common on the internet.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

Regardless of your political alignment, shoving a dildo up your ass on camera for your web audience is a pretty big no-no for most sane people.

I get that, but I think people forget that Gavin was streaming live, 4 days a week for an hour and a half with one producer and no writers for 3 years straight. You're gonna strike out sometimes when you're swinging the bat that often.

 

[Pozzingmyfilthyneghole]

I get that, but I think people forget that Gavin was streaming live, 4 days a week for an hour and a half with one producer and no writers. You're gonna strike out sometimes when you're swinging the bat that often.

I don’t think anyone is that bothered by his prurient antics, but his behavior is more suitable for an Adult Swim show than anything else.

 

[RichardMongler]

what's to dislike about the guy?

Shoving things up his ass on camera, for starters. Making a big show of making out with Milo was also cringeworthy. Above everything else, I find his 2edgy4u persona coupled with his condescending and frequently unfunny rants tedious. That said, I don't hate Gavin in the least or wish him ill will. I'd rather the world be with him than without him.

To me, Jim Goad succeeds where Gavin falls short. I find his work to be far more enduring and humorous. It's also telling that Gavin takes more than a few cues from Jim, Vice having been inspired by Answer Me! and "The Redneck Manifesto" being required reading for The Proud Boys.

 

[Al Gulud]

I get that, but I think people forget that Gavin was streaming live, 4 days a week for an hour and a half with one producer and no writers for 3 years straight. You're gonna strike out sometimes when you're swinging the bat that often.

So he strikes out by shoving shit up his ass. Sounds like a pretty intelligent guy tbh.

 

[Frogasm]

Not the worst thing that has happened to him, that would be the time he sold his shares in Vice before the Disney pay day.

he also is the one who did a substantial amount of work building vice into anything at all. when he wants to be he's very capable of being neutral and charismatic.

he has the business sense to be able to start his own business of some kind. he has the resources and he knows people. this is not the end for him.

 

[AnOminous]

I get that, but I think people forget that Gavin was streaming live, 4 days a week for an hour and a half with one producer and no writers for 3 years straight. You're gonna strike out sometimes when you're swinging the bat that often.

There's a difference between swinging the bat and missing and ramming the bat up your ass.

 

[Hummingbird]

I didn't know about the dildo thing (why did he even do that?).

 

[BeanBidan]

I refuse to believe an organization called "The Proud Boys" was anything but satirical. It's the dumbest name on the planet.

Sargon:"Hold my cocaine"

Edit: Styx made a video about it and his fans of course talk about le leftist censorship

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I didn't know about the dildo thing (why did he even do that?).

To prove he doesn't hate gays or something like that. He is fucking gross and might be in the closet.

Spoiler: Nsfw

 

[RadicalCentrist]

To prove he doesn't hate gays or something like that. He is fucking gross and might be in the closet.

Spoiler: Nsfw

The fearsome and subversive alt-right that is destroying democracy, everyone.

 

[Ledian]

I dislike platforming of all kinds. It really speaks volume that you're ridding someone because of what they're saying, not because of whose crying. Being fired, whatever. He can make another rag to write on anytime. It's not hard nor a real pain to do. But shutting down his channel on Youtube is a bit different. There are very ways to come back from that.

Spoiler: "Go make your own platform" is bullshit

To give perspective on why I think it's a bullshit argument, let's say you're having a picnic on a town park. You invite many people to enjoy it with you, but they're not the type of people the town's council likes.
Even if the only problem they have with all these people is their opinions and probably being a little too loud, they use the "being too loud" part to ban you from holding these picnics in any of the town parks again. Ask why not and you get the run-around. Tell them it's not fair and they'll tell you to go and make your own park and have a picnic there. "You can do that instead! Anyone can!" they say.

Only problem with that is that making a new, private park outside town is hard and expensive; it's why no one does it in the first place. Maintaining a park is hard work and costs a lot of money. Securing does as well. And there's not even a guarantee people would even come to the park if you're inviting them over. Normal people can't be assed to leave town and travel 30 minutes to use another park which means you can't even recoup the costs of opening that park.

So now you're left with one option too expensive or just not having picnics anymore. And the town council can continue to do what they did until people like you can't ever have picnics in the town park, because they have no competition and no one to really stop them from banning people from using them. They already have a near monopoly on parks. People will just use their parks; why use another?

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Before I ask this, I'll be upfront and say that I'm long, long time fan of Gavin(And even worked for him for awhile) so I'm pretty biased.

But what is people's problem with him? I'm not talking about SJWs, I'm talking about supposedly reasonable people who saying shit like "I think Gavin is dumb/a moron/whatever but this is bad." Like, what's to dislike about the guy? Are you taking the bait and thinking that Proud Boys is a racist thing? Is it because he has dumb tattoos? What's the deal?

Personally, I find him egotistical as hell, and so full of himself he's unlistenable. He's been on Joe Rogan a couple of times, and I found his sense of humor insufferably dull.

 

[latter day taint]

Given how much Glen Beck drinks the Mormon Kool Aid, I am shocked it took this long. Not because of his politics, but the butt plug and penis stunts. They seem a bit too homoerotic for the Mormons.

 

[frozenrunner]

To prove he doesn't hate gays or something like that. He is fucking gross and might be in the closet.

Spoiler: Nsfw

Honestly? I've always assumed he's a recovering addict. It would explain a lot of his extreme behavior over the years.

Boy am I glad I get to see that spoiled image again while I'm typing this response

 

[FromaCorvairSix]

There are two competing theories about what caused this all to go down.

1.CRTV was planning on firing Gavin, used the merger as the excuse to do it.
Monday morning Glenn Beck came on the air and clearly had no idea Gavin was going to be fired, and had even pre-taped an interview with Gavin that was supposed to air on his TV show later that day. The entire week after the merger, Glenn repeatedly mentioned Gavin being one of their hosts and genuinely seemed excited about him coming on board. Apparently CRTV and Mark Levin had been planning on shitcanning Gavin and Michelle Malkin for months and used the general disruption of the merger as an excuse to finally drop the axe. This theory doesn't explain why he was banned from youtube a day later.

2. Woke Twitter went after CRTV's payment processors to get rid of Gavin + Filed copyright and abuse claims against his Youtube account.
The other theory is that CRTV/The Blaze's payment processors threatened to drop them if Gavin wasn't fired, probably due to some woke twitter activists like Sleeping Giants bombing their corporate email accounts with the recent crop of articles that (falsely) claimed that the FBI identified the Proud Boys as a white supremacist group.
Since CRTV/TheBlaze a subscription based streaming service, getting cut off from their means of processing subscriber payments is basically instant death for their entire platform, thus Gavin had to go. Considering that Gavin's youtube account was banned a day later, after a super organized barrage of copyright and abuse complaints were made against it, that leads credence to this theory being what really happened.
CRTV never advertised much outside of conservative media and Gavin was never one of their top billing hosts. The Blaze/CRTV merger was widely reported in the mainstream media last week which probably got the attention of the woke twatter mob that otherwise would have never known that CRTV existed, nor that Gavin was associated with it. Basically the same MO used to take out Bill Oreilly and deplatform Alex Jones, but instead of attacking advertisers, they sent complaints to the payment processors that served CRTV/The Blaze.

 

[Marvin]

I dislike platforming of all kinds. It really speaks volume that you're ridding someone because of what they're saying, not because of whose crying. Being fired, whatever. He can make another rag to write on anytime. It's not hard nor a real pain to do. But shutting down his channel on Youtube is a bit different. There are very ways to come back from that.

To give perspective on why I think it's a bullshit argument, let's say you're having a picnic on a town park. You invite many people to enjoy it with you, but they're not the type of people the town's council likes.
Even if the only problem they have with all these people is their opinions and probably being a little too loud, they use the "being too loud" part to ban you from holding these picnics in any of the town parks again. Ask why not and you get the run-around. Tell them it's not fair and they'll tell you to go and make your own park and have a picnic there. "You can do that instead! Anyone can!" they say.

Only problem with that is that making a new, private park outside town is hard and expensive; it's why no one does it in the first place. Maintaining a park is hard work and costs a lot of money. Securing does as well. And there's not even a guarantee people would even come to the park if you're inviting them over. Normal people can't be assed to leave town and travel 30 minutes to use another park which means you can't even recoup the costs of opening that park.

So now you're left with one option too expensive or just not having picnics anymore. And the town council can continue to do what they did until people like you can't ever have picnics in the town park, because they have no competition and no one to really stop them from banning people from using them. They already have a near monopoly on parks. People will just use their parks; why use another?

So here's the thing, making your own platform is actually very cheap and easy to do. More specifically, it's very cheap and easy to do for forums, social networks, things like twitter, blogs, all things in those categories. Throwing small, ticky-tack shit like that up on a server is cheap. And while being booted off hosts happens, there are still hosts in the US that explicitly support insane, libertarian levels of free speech. It is very doable. (Pictures and blogs are pretty cheap to serve as well.)

It bothers me when people argue otherwise because it's technically inaccurate.

Video is an exception and it's very difficult to stream cheaply. I'm not exactly convinced that it falls on the "should be regulated" side of the line, but there's a better argument for it than ordinary text content. It might, I don't know enough about video streaming.

Now, here are the things that cannot be easily cloned:

• the DNS system - the idea that DNS registrars can steal your domain because of wrongthink is very scary. This should be heavily regulated.
• cheap access to the whole US - network neutrality is important because without it, the host will need to pay money for distance. Serving all your customers / users on the east coast might be cheap, but you might not be able to afford to serve people in the midwest (because ISPs will be able to charge special rates that only facebook et al can afford)
• financial access - this is a big thing. hobbyist speech is one thing, but I think if speech is going to scale, it needs to go commercial, at least in part. The US financial system is not a free market. To start with, I think that anything that touches federal reserve insured funds needs to have some free speech protections built in.

Here's the thing, currently platform operators legally have extensive rights to censor people as they wish. When you build a platform, you have a first amendment right to decide what gets expressed on your service. This is not really disputed legally. It's legal to make, say, a communist social network and ban non-commies.

But I do agree that most of the time, with the largest platforms, this right has very negative effects. As we've seen with youtube, twitter and facebook to some extent.

However, I worry that if the government changes that, I think the same rules that will restrain youtube, twitter, facebook, etc from censoring will equally apply to sites like 4chan (not that it matters anymore), 8chan, and kiwifarms. I think we'll all be dragged down the the same level of mediocrity.

I think whatever laws get proposed will make it too cumbersome to run a site like kiwifarms legally, and this sort of "everything goes" attitude that we love on this site will be destroyed. Many people will get slightly more freedom on facebook and other sites, and the vast majority of normies will be fine with that, and no one will care if kiwifarms gets trampled in the process.

And it's not that facebook and others are impossible to defeat. I really believe facebook is losing influence. Not necessarily money-wise, but just in the sense that facebook is for grandmas to comment on their grandkids' graduations. And myspace fell. And hell, Medium.com zoomed up out of nowhere. (Facebook has like 30k employees, Medium has like <100) Twitter's dying a slow, embarrassing death. Hell, even with Silicon Valley asslickers supporting each other, it's pretty much Trump himself keeping twitter alive.

And like I said, I don't think the main problem is the market for infrastructure. I think the main issue is financing. I think that if financing was freed up, the big platforms would be a lot easier to take on. There's definitely a market for alternative perspectives. Tons of people want to give null money, they want to give money to sick kids with cancer through their favorite youtube neo-nazis, and they probably want to watch Gavin McInnes for some reason.

Kick visa in the dick and a bunch of hatreon clones would flourish.

 

[FromaCorvairSix]

The plot thickens. Sleeping Giants has been frequently tweeting about Gavin in the past few days. They're the hit squad run by "ad agency insiders" that try to get "problematic" people deplatformed by organizing twitter mobs to attack their advertisers, payment processors, web hosts, and employers, and were one of the main players in deplatforming Alex Jones.

https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1072398379634823168
Note, the Hating jews article was a parody, written by Gavin while he worked for rebel media, owned by a jew, Ezra Levant.

 

[Dreamland]

So here's the thing, making your own platform is actually very cheap and easy to do. More specifically, it's very cheap and easy to do for forums, social networks, things like twitter, blogs, all things in those categories. Throwing small, ticky-tack shit like that up on a server is cheap. And while being booted off hosts happens, there are still hosts in the US that explicitly support insane, libertarian levels of free speech. It is very doable. (Pictures and blogs are pretty cheap to serve as well.)

It bothers me when people argue otherwise because it's technically inaccurate.

Video is an exception and it's very difficult to stream cheaply. I'm not exactly convinced that it falls on the "should be regulated" side of the line, but there's a better argument for it than ordinary text content. It might, I don't know enough about video streaming.

Now, here are the things that cannot be easily cloned:

• the DNS system - the idea that DNS registrars can steal your domain because of wrongthink is very scary. This should be heavily regulated.
• cheap access to the whole US - network neutrality is important because without it, the host will need to pay money for distance. Serving all your customers / users on the east coast might be cheap, but you might not be able to afford to serve people in the midwest (because ISPs will be able to charge special rates that only facebook et al can afford)
• financial access - this is a big thing. hobbyist speech is one thing, but I think if speech is going to scale, it needs to go commercial, at least in part. The US financial system is not a free market. To start with, I think that anything that touches federal reserve insured funds needs to have some free speech protections built in.

I'd hate to put my shill-hat on again, but Zeronet could help out with a few of these issues. DNS is done either through tracking hashes or by proper namecoin .bit domains. Bandwidth becomes less of a problem with more viewers (as they also seed in many cases). Lastly it has an integrated crypto donation system.

There is still the issue of making comments-sections and forums resistant against CP spamming and other degenerate shit that gets attracted by darkweb protocols like flies, but you could make it less easy by enforcing bit-id profiles so it can be muted more easily.

 

[Hummingbird]

To prove he doesn't hate gays or something like that. He is fucking gross and might be in the closet.

Spoiler: Nsfw

I always felt that Gavin was a bit of a tryhard; this cements it.